SPOILERS ** I'm not happy with what they have done to G.O.T. Season 8 ** SPOILERS

in got •  6 years ago  (edited)

As if the title wasn't enough, if you are not up to speed on season 8 of Game of Thrones then you should get outta here!


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Like most people, I was so incredibly excited for the final season of Game of Thrones and was really hopeful that they were going to make it epic: Thus far I have been incredibly disappointed and I am one of the people out there that believes that episode 4 of Season 8 might actually be the worst episode of the entire franchise.

They deviated from the books quite a lot of out necessity in all of the seasons but at some point near the start of season 7 they didn't even have any source material to base the episodes on and while I am certain that RR Martin is helping them to a certain degree, these last episodes have just been so inconsistent, sloppy, and deviating from the rest of the series that I can't help but feel as though perhaps the series isn't as profitable as we might think. Perhaps they are trying to "wrap it up."

While there are many many many problems with Episode 4, I am going to focus on just a few that really irked me.


2nd Dragon dispatched entirely too easily

Remember when having dragons not only inspired fear but also admiration and loyalty? Remember when they were considered an unstoppable force? Well now they don't really seem that way because we have now seen 2 of them taken down in a rather inconsistent-with-legend manner.


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So let me get this straight: Without even revealing his position, Euron is able to make use of a weapon he has never used before to strike a moving target in the air, a mile away from him, 3 times in a row? Bullshit! Then when Dany is flying on Drogon directly at them in the next scene, they go 0 for 20. Then Dany just runs away despite the fact that these super easy to reload giant crossbows are only on the front of the ships. Why not just hover behind them and roast the whole fleet? Urgh!

I understand they needed to level the playing field but they could have done it in a more practical manor. They didn't have to completely cut the balls off of the Dragons. What use do they have now since they are apparently very easy to dispatch?


Why didn't Cersei just kill all of them at the city gate?

So Dany and Tyrion travel with a very small group of unsullied and a now useless dragon to have a meeting at the gates of King's Landing where Cersei could have easily just killed them all. Does she now all of a sudden concern herself with honor? She certainly hasn't been plagued with this crisis of conscious in the past.

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Of course the SJW armies of the world are up in arms not with the fact that this scene doesn't make sense, but because one of the only remaining persons of color was executed while back in slave chains. I quite liked Missandei and didn't like to see her go either but come on!


These fast-forward love stories are dumb

I think I speak for everyone when I say that I was much more satisfied with Brienne and Jaime having a professional and platonic relationship.


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In what is likely the most uncomfortable love scene in all of cinema history, Jaime and Brienne turn a drunken hookup into the shortest romance of the entire series. Then, when Jaime decides to take off, our extremely tough and admirable Brienne of Tarth is reduced to a sniveling sobbing mess which is a complete break from her character that we have grown to love over the years.

To a much lessor degree, we have the Arya and Gendry love story end as quick as it began in this rather dumb and forced romance. Let's forget the fact that when Gendry last saw Arya she was a child pretending to be a boy.


Euron Greyjoy is OP as fuck

In just a short amount of time he has become unstoppable. He just happens to be exactly where he needs to be all the time with no explanation as to how he got there and why he knew to be there. He has, in a just a few appearances, caused as much damage to the "good guys" as the Night King did over the entire series.


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I don't mind Cersei having some power on her side, but this guy came out of nowhere from a group of people generally regarded as a non-issue as far as overall power of Westeros is concerned and now he is unstoppable. There is no timeline here! He also seems to fast travel all over the planet with no regard paid to how long it would take to get from one place to the next.

My prediction: A showdown with Jaime that results in both of their deaths - perhaps with Brienne intervening at the last minute.


tl;dr / conclusion

There are many more things that I could gripe about here but these are the main ones. The producers said this season was going to be shorter because they didn't have enough material and if that is the case, why are they shoving an entire season's worth of events into two episodes? These could have easily been several episodes for each event (The Battle of Winterfell and whatever the hell we call what happened in EP 4.) The dragons being taken out of the equation is just dumb seeing as how pretty much the entire Game of Thrones series has revolved around them (Where are muh DRAGONSSSS?)

So now we have only 2 episodes left before it is all done. I can't help but feel as though we have been "Last Jedi'd" here. This completely breaks with what we have seen up until now and I also feel as though Daenerys being the eventual reincarnation of the Mad King is being telegraphed entirely too much.

I hope they can wrap this up in style but I believe that this series is going down the road of a sloppy finish.

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Then Dany just runs away despite the fact that these super easy to reload giant crossbows are only on the front of the ships. Why not just hover behind them and roast the whole fleet? Urgh!

OMG! Yes!! I was thinking the same thing.

Why didn't Cersei just kill all of them at the city gate?

Dude... This was driving us nuts. She totally would have killed them all. It would have been so easy.

She would have killed all of them except for Tyrion, then smirked at him and then just walked away.

so many reasons to be upset. At least the 9 gag G.O.T. section is absolutely blowing up

Absolutely agree, I have been a fan of the show since the beginning and have been really disappointed with this season so far.

The first 2 episodes of season 8 were alright but they seemed to be about building up the tension and setting us up for a huge epic battle, but the 3rd did not live up to the expectations and was a massive anti-climax.

It seems to me like the writers have sacrificed any need for the story to make logical sense within the world the show is set in exchange for having some one-off shock moments.

The latest episode has a perfect example with Euron taking down the dragon. Daenerys had an aerial view and would have seen any enemy ships before they got anywhere near, but somehow Euron has hidden an entire fleet behind a rock and takes out the first dragon with pinpoint accuracy. But then those same weapons manage to miss Daenerys and the dragon she is riding even though she is right in front of them.

That's just one example but there are dozens if you go back through the last few seasons and it has completely ruined what was originally a brilliant show.

The show has been great overall, but for me S8E3 the entire show was mostly ruined. After 7 seasons of hearing "winter is coming!" the Night King is killed in his first major battle...? And every major character looked like they are about to die in battle somehow survive a 100k+ invasion of the army of the dead...?

They turned GoT into a typical Harry Potter type of plot...

It is always about money, HBO had a certain budget and they have to finish the show, so they squeezed a bunch of bullshit into the last season. We are seeing these fake unrealistic battle scenes that should not end the way they are, turning the story into a typical good vs evil, and they decided to make Cersi the main villain instead of the Night King.

i wonder if their decision to kill another dragon and eliminate the direwolves was a CGI budget decision. I'm sure it was at least a factor.

Would not be surprised if it was, I read somewhere the reason Jon Snow did not pet his dire wolf Ghost when they said goodbye is because it was a CGI issue, which basically means we did not want to spend the money to create a CGI scene of him petting Ghost.

I really thought that Cersei was going to have Tyrion killed for real this time when he approached the gate to try and reason with her. Yet, once again - just like their discussion after that Dragon Pit meeting at the end of Season 7 - she came thisclose and stopped.

I suppose it's all building up to something in these last two episodes - ideally, we'll all be like, "Oh, OK, I get why they did what they did." Still, though, the haphazard nature of this season (plus production errors like that silly now-digitally-erased Starbucks cup) is unfortunate.

I certainly hope that they do make all of this make sense somehow in the last 2 ep's. However, given the sloppy writing up to now, I would be surprised if that happened.

I think my shred of hope comes from certain cast interviews. Gwendoline Christie, Peter Dinklage - both are satisfied/proud of whatever becomes of their characters. I could be pessimistic and think that's all part of the HBO marketing machine, but they're known for giving really upfront opinions while still keeping those plotlines secret.

So, given that neither of these characters are doing well by their actors's standards (or anyone else's) as of this episode, maybe these last two (long) episodes might just the achieve a-ha moments that Season 6, Episode 5 did with standard time.

Oh, and they still have to bring back poor Edmure Tully ;)

I think you can really tell the difference when "Hollywood" took over.

I doubt they would have the guts to have something like the "red wedding"

Despite that I am ok with Season 8 but not as blown away like the previous seasons

yeah, i want to make it clear: This is still leaps and bounds better than almost anything else out there, just IMO not as good as it used to be by far.

I totally agree with you, I know that they don't have a book material any more but if Martin helps them with the script why they make such a big plot hole or cut the thread in some stupid way. I think that even the author of books doesn't know how to end this story, maybe that's the main problem?!?!?

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apparently he was planning on releasing two more books and you remember how long those are. I don't think that he is going to allow what happened in the TV show to influence the real story. at least, i hope not anyway.

Yeah... that dragons death was... dumb.

HBO did the same thing with Rome, Good first season and then season two died

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I could'nt agree more with you, the shocker started when Arya killed the night king and up until then, they've made questionable decisions really and I'm not going to be surprised if in the next episode Jon snow is killed by Euron, it's been totally Shit.

Not Happy Is an euphemism...
The last 10 minutes are Simply ridicolous.
Where Dany thinks to go with 50 unsolids???? Where??
Why Tyrion try to speak with his sister?? Really he thought She understamds? Out of character...
And most of all It miss 2 episodes only and the 4th It was a completely waste of time!!!
I am Always Happy to see got and I Always protect the show from the critics but now....now I am very concern

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Did you happen to see this story?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/game-of-thrones-called-out-for-leaving-a-starbucks-coffee-cup-in-a-scene-unprofessional-133638395.html

As I said before, I stopped watching after season 1 only because I had to, not because I wanted to. It is sad to think that it is going downhill so much in the final season.

yeah, it is all over social media today. That is funny but kind of just reinforces what i think: That they just want to get this over with.

They honestly need better writers, what is happening is pathetic considering the quality of GOT before. I really do not understand how they could lower the quality so much despite having more money. Somewhere I read that Martin said that Benioff and Weiss killed, or did not include in the series some characters from the books that are necessary to close the story, and it seems that this generates great consequences.

well I don't know very many long-term GOT fans that are happy with this season. Maybe we'll get some spinoff movies.... actually we almost certainly will.

The other day I read that HBO is ready to shoot a Spin-Off about The First Men of Westeros, and Naomi Watts will participate.