Papa doesn't know, but perhaps you might!
I was hoping that someone put there might know what species of turtle this is. @Herpetologyguy and @natator88 haven't been active on steemit in months, but perhaps some of you may know. I know that @doitvoluntarily and @biglipsmama have been able to get me some answers before, so I'll offer up 10 SBD to the first steemian to reply with the correct scientific name for this species.
MY HELP REQUEST VIDEO
PHOTOS OF THE CREATURE
Honestly guys, I just don't know what kind of turtle this is. You can see the basic size of it in the photos. Also, it was found in Lake Bull Shoals in Northwest Arkansas. I hope that someone knows, because I love learning new things. I knew the species in Wisconsin pretty well, but Arkansas has a lot more, and a lot of new ones to me. Thanks for any help you might be able to provide.
Also, @andyfishman thought this was perhaps a kind of Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta) but it is not. I do appreciate the effort, so any guesses or ideas will be researched until an accurate identification can be made. Thanks!
As always, I'm @papa-pepper and here's the proof:
proof-of-unknown-turtle
Until next time…
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Looks like a 'teenage' female almost adult False Map Turtle. The older they get the lighter the color on the shells...warmer climate effects that too. The belly plate line seams will fade as she gets older. Color patterns on the head will vary greatly. Common is the dots on the jaws. Which is the giveaway.
Graptemys pseudogeographica
https://theturtleroom.com/species-profiles/graptemys-pseudogeographica-pseudogeographica/
1st photo is of a very young juvenile.
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Those also have the "eyebrows" though, and a slight ridgeline down the spine of the carapace, don't they? This one lacked both of those characteristics.
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Sometimes, yep -but not always. The dots on the upper and lower jaw, along with the "ridges" at the rear edges of the shell plates are the easy identifiers. There are a number of features on these guys that change sooo much as they age. Those rough edges/ridges smooth out over time. The plate seams underneath fade in color too. It's even possible for the "eyebrows" to disappear -but the dots on the face and the olive-green tints in the shell stick around.
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Well, you seem to know quite a bit about these, so I'll call it a winner, though I still may not be 100% convinced. Thanks for the help!
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I still think it is more like a painted turtle, the shell is all wrong for a map or box. But I will defer.
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Lol, the wife's just a weeee bit .....obsessed... with turtles and frogs. I'm ok with being wrong -who learns anything useful from being right "all" the time? Seems like the older I get, the more I don't mind learning new things. And it's pretty neat to see how much interest there has been on your post here. So cool! *if wrong, does that mean we get to pass the bounty on? :-)
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Nice little turtle...:)...
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Maybe a mutant ninja turtle?
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I'm going to say it is a varient of a Mud Turtle or Kinosternon subrubrum.
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Do they actually get this big?
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I originally thought so too, but I thought that those were always small, whereas this one was roughly eight inches in shell length....
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You're right that's to big. I'm still looking...
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Maybe a cross between a mud turtle and a slider? I'm stumped LOL.
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Name of turtle is.
SOUTHERN PAINTED TURTLE
Chrysemys dorsalis
@papa-pepper
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Northern map turtle. Graptemys geographica.
That is my best guess.
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I tried to take this picture on the internet, maybe like this kind.
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By the number of toes and shell pattern my opinion would be (Chelydra serpentina) aka common snapping turtle. How long was its tail?
http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/Turtle/ChelydraSerpentina#Gallery
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No, this one is not a Common Snapper. They look more like this:
The tail was much shorter than that of a Snapping Turtle.
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Groovy. Well I will keep posted. I dont think I have seen that guy before...
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Possibly a northern white-lipped mud turtle. Good luck
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Those sure do look similar, but those are a South American species.... But I think it must be some sort of Mud Turtle
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Well that's it as far as my knowledge goes(I used Google) .... What I know about turtles you can write on the back of a postage stamp!
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did it put off a foul smell when you picked it up?
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No, and it is not a Musk Turtle AKA Stinkpot, but we do have those here too.
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Upvoted to see if anyone sees this and can answer , but looks like you got your answer.
They are great pics so anyone that knows turtles can tell you.
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Don't have the correct answer yet, but we're working on it. Thanks!
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yellow cheeks turtle
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I think it's genus pseudemys
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Looking into that.....
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Please do papa
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3 toed box turtle?
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No... but they live here too...
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It is a green sea turtle, Chelonia mydas
http://www.tamug.edu/sealife/turtlecam.html
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Have you checked it against a Cooter? Maybe the Eastern river Cooter?
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Can't find one that looks right yet, but I'm checking the genus. Thanks!
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Good day papa this turtile look lovely i saw your message sir i will definently do it sir. Just need your description, if you want it to be sew with lovely design on it here i can also arange for that sir @papa-pepper
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Excellent! I'll send over some SBD right away. I'll let you have creative freedom on what pattern! A sewn one would be great!
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Ok sir any to comfirm some things about it sir which chatting platform can we meet to talk sir my discord is gbija#5945
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i BELIEVE IT IS A SNAPPING TURTLE.
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@papa-pepper...that is Pearl River Map Turtle (Graptemys pearlensis)
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Except they have a spined shell.
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Looks like a healthy turtle since it doesn’t have any pink discoloration on underside.
It could be Eastern Chicken Turtle.
Very long neck with yellow stripes, vertical yellow stripes on hind legs, broad yellow stripe on forelimbs, carapace is long and narrow, and line-like ridges on shell.
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Deirochelys reticularia?
I can't find an image that matches the black around the scutes on the plastron.... plus this one did not have so much yellow striping on the skin.... not sure. Looking into it. Thanks!
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I guess it is an Eastern Musk Turtle: http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/Turtle/SternotherusOdoratus
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Those stay smaller than this, but they are a beautiful turtle for sure. Thanks!
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@papa-pepper I'm not from there, so I had to guess. Did you ever find a name?
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Isn't this the yellow-bellied slider?
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Trachemys scripta scripta?
I don't think so, as the neck pattern and plastron markings are not similar....
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Common (Northern) Map Turtle
(Graptemys geographica)
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I suspect, it could be Graptemys Pseudogeographica aka False Map Turtle....
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amazing photography @papa-pepper
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Based on its belly colors it might be one of these two. The eastern river cooter (Pseudemys concinna concinna) or The yellow-bellied slider (Trachemys scripta scripta)
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Mississippi Map Turtle!
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Graptemys pseudogeographica kohni?
Don't think so, but thanks for the effort. Any other ideas?
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False Map Turtle - Graptemys pseudogeographica
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According to some others, this may be it, so I'll call you a winner too!
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Wow thank you @papa-pepper! I hope you can find him again he seems somewhat unique!
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Papa's turtle does not have a prominent keel to it's shell.
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Yes it is puzzling!
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I guess that is a Mississippi Map Turtle
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The animals walking slowly but surely, I love nature
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@papa-pepper, it looks like this turtle [Cuora Amboinensis]
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turtle. This animal has several types. this kind of living landed and plant-eaters. there are living on the sea called a green turtle. some live in the forest. and on the river. if in aceh indonesia there 4 spesies. Kura kura, penyu, baneng dan tong tong.
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I am going with the Painted Turtles. Chrysemys picta
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It is a Phrynops hilarii
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I'm going to go with yellow mud turtle.
Does it have an odor?
https://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/field-guide/yellow-mud-turtle
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Actinemys marmorata ? I think your turtle is a rare mutation of something common
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I'm going to have to go with some variation of a map turtle or false map turtle. The size for females is in the ballpark and the colorings are similar.
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Greetings from Venezuela brother @papa-pepper the species is Red eared slider. T. scripta. Tim Colson did the id
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Deirochelys reticularia
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http://www.louisianaherps.com/chicken-turtle-deirochelys-.html
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http://www.petguide.com/breeds/turtle/chicken-turtle/
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I have three adults and a bunch of babies in my garden right now. They are pretty little turtles but I have no idea what they are. We don't have these type up north and this is the first time I have seen these. So when you know, I'd be interested in knowing too!
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Chelonoidis chilensis is it's scientific name hence it belongs the species chilensis
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Isn't that a type of tortoise?
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Oh sorry.
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But If it's a turtle then I think it's Mauremys mutica
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I think it's an "Yellow-bellied Slider Turtle" @papa-pepper
it is native to the southeastern United States. They usually found at slow moving rivers, ponds, and marshes.
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Hi @ papa-pepper
It was a very young turtle.
they will fade when old
and the lines will spread and fade
Regards @mzakybrt
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