BlockTrades is an exchange, and most of the accounts you have listed here are likely ones that belong to their exchange. It is actually a smart business practice for an exchange to split their funds across multiple accounts, to reduce the risk of potential hacks. I don't see anything about BlockTrades having multiple accounts that in of itself speaks of anything evil..
Is it possible that all of these linked transactions can be explained by users who are buying and selling Steem via the BlockTrades.us exchange? The ones using the same memo are obviously the same user, but not everybody sending funds to and from those accounts is using the same memo. Lots of different users are sending and receiving funds to the exchange accounts. For example, even @ned sent funds to @alpha a while back..
If you go to BlockTrades.us and create an account, you can buy a token like STEEM/HIVE through their exchange (STEEM is currently disabled for obvious reasons). If as a user I want to buy STEEM with another currency (such as BTC or ETH) and have my STEEM sent directly to Binance, I am able to put my Binance memo into the Blocktrades exchange site, and buy the STEEM from Blocktrades.
(The image currently shows ETH->HIVE, but ETH->STEEM would work the same way when enabled.)
If I were to submit this trade, Blocktrades would fill the order from one of their accounts, and send my STEEM to the Binance exchange with the memo I supplied. You would see a transaction coming out of one of their exchange accounts with my STEEM going into the exchange using my memo.
Mr. @timcliffe, do you really believe so?
As you will say, exchanges are spread across multiple accounts to reduce risk. This is a part that everyone admits.
However, no one is making a direct deposit to the exchange account.
Why did he deposit money directly into the blocktrades' Binance account?
Usually darthknight-> blocktrades-> binance, isn't this a reasonable way?
And why does he power down with @kevtorin? How did @darthknight who recently started steemit get to know @kevtorin and set it up? This is not common.
Isn't it? Because @kevtorin is a very inactive account. I can't figure out who @kevtorin is unless it's someone associated with that account.
But couldn't it be a long time since @darthknight started Steam, could he set it up for him?
And who is @kevtorin? The account has existed since Steem's Pow for a long time, and it seems to be a very close account with @blocktrades when you see various circumstances.
What do you think of it?
I respect you. I know you tried for the Steem glory. I would like your opinion once again.
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Sorry, I do not understand what you mean by this. Can you please show me an example of where you see this?
I do not believe that the Binance account is blocktrades'. What I see is a user depositing money into their own Binance account (from their own account), and the same user also buying STEEM off of the Blocktrades exchange and having the STEEM they purchased from the BlockTrades exchange deposited into their same Binance account.
I don't know. It could be a friend. If I heard that all of the witnesses on Steem were going to freeze the funds in my account, I would be really scared. I would probably panic and try to send them anywhere that I thought would be safe.
Yes, it is possible. We don't know.
Can you clarify what you mean by "a very close account"? Again, @blocktrades is an exchange account. Thousands of users (myself included) transfer funds in and out of that account.
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How can you live with yourself, you scammy shit!!! Lying... and lying!!!
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Can you please point to a single place where I have lied?
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please read it
https://www.steemcoinpan.com/hive-101145/@ayogom/public-responses-sent-to-timcliff-i-have-reason-to-think-that-between-darthknight-and-blocktrades-the-same-person-or-very-close
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appreciate the reply. It will take me a bit of time to review, but I will read it and reply there.
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Do you mean Blocktrade take the active key of the user account to transfer the tokens on their behalf?
The same memo key means the same Binance account.
If darthknight and blocktrades use the same Binance account, that means they're the same person (unless they're sharing the same Binance account because they're family members)
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No.
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People will not fall for your scammy explanations.
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There are people that are making assertions in the posts and comments here. I am raising questions and pointing out alternative explanations that demonstrate the assertions they are making might not be true.
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And are you going to use the memo of your OWN Binance account or you give the Binance account of the exchange?
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I would use the memo of my own Binance account if I was buying tokens to send to my Binance account. What are you referring to in terms of "give the Binance account of the exchange?"
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What makes the memo "the memo of the Binance account of blocktrades"?
No, this is not the scenario I am describing. If Darthknight was BUYING STEEM with another token such as ETH or BTH, and having their STEEM sent to the Binance exchange, then the purchased STEEM would be going out of the Blocktrades account into Binance.
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Wooooooooooot!!! How dare you... you clown... piece of shit, go away to your HIVE friends!!!
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I am not your enemey
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Are you sure? Users buy tokens off one exchange and have them sent to another exchange all the time.
The fees aren't actually that high. I actually use the BlockTrades.us exchange quite a bit. There can often be arbitrage opportunities between different exchanges. Traders may see an opportunity to buy tokens from one exchange and move them to another in order to sell into a higher price or expected pump.
No.. We really don't. That is my point. You are assuming it is, but that does not necessarily make it true.
Just because someone is new does not mean they are not well informed and technically capable. There are also a lot of users on the platform who may have reached out and offered them guidance or helped them learn how to do more advanced things.
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Keep fighting the good fight. I really appreciate it.
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I don't know why you would assume that. If Darthknight's only transfers into the exchange were the ones from their own account and times they purchased from the Blocktrades exchange, then you would not see the memo used in other places.
I agree it is an unusual thing to do, but it is not outside the realm of possibility. We really don't know the exact market conditions at the time of the transactions, or what was going through the user's head. Also, not every move that traders make is necessarily smart :)
Yes, I get that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and allowed to make decisions and take actions based on their opinions. It does not mean they are right though.
I know multiple people that got in contact with them between the time the soft-fork was enabled and when their accounts were frozen. They seem to have a desire to remain somewhat anonymous so it is not surprising that you are not finding a trail of communication, but there are other stakeholders that they are in communication with.
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Yeah, in my view it is unfortunate that we are "fighting" at all.
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Yes indeed tim... whats more sad is we are going to be divided further going forward. I will definitely miss bright and reasonable guys who wont be on this platform anymore.
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