How about a book published by the Dream Steem Community? / Wie wär's mit einem Buch, veröffentlicht von der Dream Steem Community?

in hive-107855 •  4 months ago 

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Hello, Dear Dreamers!

As I already mentioned in my last report as a Steem Representative: I think the time has come to realise one of the original ideas when we founded our Dream Steem Community:

A book publication!

Well, we have experienced authors among us, but also a lot of people who have only discovered writing on this platform. So for some of you, the idea of finding yourself as an author in an anthology may be something very special ;-))

I also think that such a book, initially in the form of an e-book, but also in a print version if there is proven interest, can be a wonderful advertisement for the Steem and also a very personal present for platform-related activities. In my eyes, it connects the online and offline worlds and brings some blogging culture into everyday real life...

I have emphasised in many places that Steem needs above all diverse and ambitious writers who might feel triggered by such an anthology and join us. The more we are recognised, the better for us and not least for the Steem Prize. My opinion!

But now to yours...: I hope you like my suggestion. What I would like to discuss: should the authors' real names be mentioned in the first work in question, or those of the Steem accounts? Both could have advantages and disadvantages. In this country, publishing under your own name sometimes gives you access to literary prizes or other royalties. I don't know what the situation is in your respective countries. Could it even lead to personal disadvantages...? Publication under the account names, on the other hand, provides a better link to Steem as an independent platform and may arouse the reader's curiosity to find out more about the people behind the accounts...

So: be so kind and tell me what you think about it.

My plan for the first attempt looks like this: from the first day of our community's existence, we have organised the regular "Keyword of the Week" competition. In the course of our existence, we have used 55 keywords so far. From each of the submitted texts, I would select at least one for inclusion in our anthology.

I act as publisher (self-publishing as an e-book involves only small upfront costs, which I will cover), write an explanatory introduction to the project and an epilogue with a kind of guide to the Steem. The authors will of course retain all rights to their texts and, if there is income from sales of the books, I will pay out their shares in the form of Steem. The corresponding invoices will always be publicly available.

Please let me know what else comes to your mind! My target deadline would be the end of September. I need about four weeks in advance to select the texts, prepare the format and apply for ISBN and EAN numbers. That means I'm giving us about eight weeks from today to get a good, well-rounded thing off the ground together.

I'm all ears...!

Yours @weisser-rabe

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Deutsche Version:

Hallo, liebe Träumer!

Wie ich in meinem letzten Report als Steem Representative bereits angedeutet hatte: ich halte die Zeit für gekommen, eine der ursprünglichen Ideen bei Gründung unserer Dream Steem Community in die Tat umzusetzen:

Eine Buchveröffentlichung!

Nun, wir haben erfahrene Autoren unter uns, aber auch eine Menge Leute, die erst auf dieser Plattform zum Schreiben gefunden haben. Für den einen oder anderen mag also die Vorstellung, sich als Autor in einem Sammelband wiederzufinden, etwas ganz besonderes sein ;-))

Außerdem denke ich, daß so ein Buch, zunächst in Form eines e-Books, aber bei erwiesenem Interesse auch durchaus in einer Print-Version, eine wunderbare Werbung für den Steem sein kann und außerdem ein sehr persönliches Präsent für plattformbezogene Aktivitäten. Es verbindet in meinen Augen die online- mit der offline-Welt und trägt etwas Blogging-Kultur ins alltägliche reale Leben…

Ich habe an vielen Stellen betont, daß der Steem vor allem vielfältige und ambitionierte Schreiber braucht, die sich vielleicht durch so eine Anthologie getriggert fühlen und zu uns stoßen. Je mehr wir zur Kenntnis genommen werden, desto besser für uns und nicht zuletzt für den Steem-Preis. Meine Meinung!

Nun aber zu Eurer…: ich hoffe, Ihr findet Gefallen an meinem Vorschlag. Was ich zu diskutieren bitte: sollen im fraglichen Erstlingswerk die Klarnamen der Autoren genannt werden oder die der Steem-Accounts? Beides könnte Vor- und Nachteile haben. Hierzulande sind Veröffentlichungen unter eigenem Namen teilweise Zugang zu Literaturpreisen oder anderen Tantiemen. Wie das in Euren jeweiligen Ländern aussieht, weiß ich nicht. Ggf. Führt es sogar zu persönlichen Nachteilen…? Die Publikation unter den Accountnamen wiederum stellt einen besseren Bezug zum Steem als eigenständige Plattform dar und eventuell weckt das beim Leser die Neugier, mehr über die Personen hinter den Accounts zu erfahren…

Also: seid so lieb und erzählt mir, was Ihr darüber denkt.

Mein Plan für den ersten Anlauf sieht so aus: wir haben vom ersten Tag des Bestehens unserer Community an den regelmäßigen „Schlüsselwort der Woche“- Wettbewerb veranstaltet. Im Laufe unseres Bestehens haben wir bislang 55 Schlüsselwörter bedient. Aus den eingereichten Texten würde ich jeweils mindestens einen zur Aufnahme in unsere Anthologie auswählen.

Ich trete als Herausgeber auf (die Veröffentlichung als e-Book im Selbstverlag bringt nur geringe Vorkosten mit sich, die ich übernehmen werde), schreibe eine erklärende Einleitung zum Projekt und ein Nachwort mit einer Art Wegweiser auf den Steem. Die Autoren behalten selbstverständlich alle Rechte an ihren Texten und bekommen, wenn es Erträge aus Verkäufen der Bücher gibt, ihre Anteile in Form von Steem von mir ausgezahlt. Die entsprechende Abrechnung wird stets öffentlich einsehbar sein.

Bitte laßt mich wissen, was Euch dazu noch in den Sinn kommt! Meine angepeilte Deadline wäre ein Termin Ende September. Ich brauche vorab etwa vier Wochen, die Texte auszuwählen und das Format aufzubereiten sowie ISBN und EAN Nummern zu beantragen. Das heißt, ich gebe uns von heute an etwa acht Wochen, miteinander eine gute, runde Sache auf den Weg zu bringen.

Ich bin ganz Ohr…!

Euer @weisser-rabe

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I love the idea. I live in Venezuela. Here there are not many possibilities to publish even virtually, unless it is a platform like this, or we are allied with the government. Therefore, this proposal is great for me.
I don't know if I am a "writer" who fits within the parameters of excellence. In my favor I can only say that I like what I write.

Oh - be sure: we like it, too!

Saludos weisser-rabe.
Ma parese muy interesante tu propuesta y estoy interesado en participar.
La edición de un libro es algo difícil y muy grande, pero también muy hermoso.
Me gustaría participar con mi nombre.
Carlos Acosta Cazorla.

Hello and thank you - that's good to hear!

A good idea. Steemians did it before, I bought the book e-book is notba book for me, and I know more communities work on the idea.

Thick or small isn't important, neither the length of the stories as long as it amazes the mind.
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Thanks, Kitty! Can you tell me more about similiar projects on Steem? I know the book publication by @seo-boss only...

If it comes to books see amazon - steemit

The books with stories I think was a the Power House Creatives / freewritehouse initiative

You could ask @jaynie since she's still super active the powerhouse girl with the Steemit write databank

https://steemit.com/powerhousecreatives/@steemitbloggers/community-updates-and-changes

Bruce (felt. buzz) was part of it and some old Steemians but I think it was edited by Carol and published in the US. He sent me my book since he's in France but like said @jaynie will know it. If not I'll see if the book is still here or I already moved it (daughter needed the room + space for her books 😉)

Oh, thank you! These are helpful hints to study...

Seems like a great idea! I would love to be part of the book and use any of the names the publisher of the book deems fit. But the question is whether any of my posts are eligible to be part of that book.

You tend to be overly modest today ;-)) I think you're sure to get one or two places!

Oh YES! I would LOVE a hard copy for my coffee table!

I think we can help you with that ;-)))

Thank you very much.

Not sure it is a good idea. It is about game, not about 'leaving your trace' in eternity in a shape of a book. Hmmm.
The picture with a book pile I am 100% sure is AI-generated - with intentionally no titles, looks spooky and awful (to me).

Thank you for sharing your concerns. I'll try to categorise them for myself...

I chose the photo because it shows diversity, so to speak, but blank books. That's a bit how I see us as a community.

It's not about the game itself. I want to publicise our authors more broadly and point out where they can all be read in one place: right here ;-))

I dont insist thats just a humble opinion, since I noticed your question. My small 5 cents 😌

And I thank you for that ;-))

I try to understand what you mean to say with the first line 🤔

Are you familiar with an earlier book(s) published by Steemians?

If it comes to pictures and coversm, photographers photoshop, use AI to make whatever they took look better. Canva is AI at first sight it dodsn't look spooky to me. More like those fake books Ikea uses to decorate their tiny rooms with. The surface attracts the attention or is it distracts?

No, I did not familiar with books published earlier. What I wanted to explicit - in my humble opinion this is rather a literary game and more about a process rather than about result that has residual independent value - transient is the appropriate keyword here - and thus does not worth to be compiled and kept as a book.

More like those fake books Ikea uses to decorate their tiny rooms with.

Exactly. Those piles are obviously fakes, does not look convincing to me.
These flowered ornamented surfaces without titles surely attracts the attention - but 1st thing it says, it is STRANGE stuff and it is not books but '' simulacra.
Yes, our modern life is increasingly filled with simulacra and plastic fakes (and this does not make me happy).
I have a suspicion that some people don't have any 'real things' left to photograph. When it comes to music, they only have mp3 files, spotify and a smartphone with headphones. When it comes to books - there is no nice book shelf in the house, and one have to ask AI to generate a simulacrum, etc etc etc
Thats the sad trend.

That indeed is a sad trend and with it comes the fact people hardly read or understand what is written. At least we still have books. My eldest has over 1000 (officially a library), I still have hundreds (a part moved to my children) and during the summer the bookhunt starts. We literally find them on the streets, in give away closets and second hand shops, frewuently brandnew. Always good for about 100 more.

I like the old vinyl, records, we still have them in the family. 😉

Very nice of you. Even 500 books is a very convincing and sufficient library totals.

We keep a lot too in the family, but the problem is the free room / space - we dont have enough of it for a long time, since we live not at a separate house, but that’s a different story. I rarely allow myself to buy another book. (Because it’s simply impossible to put more water into a bottle than it can hold, hehe).

Space is indeed a high problem. I thought I dealt with it and wouldn't buy or take more books but... I can empty the kichen cupboards 🤔 also thought of shelves in every room underneath the ceiling but I'm afraid those walls come down. Book crates we partly use.

My latest buy - I couldn't resist it becausebof the prize the secondhandshop set, looks brandnew. Just the letter this author wrote aren't in it.

Columns, stories & poetry

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Not in the know of this author at all. Book design looks convincing and modernistic. (And it is BIG!)

This is a new edition/collection about 600+ pages. He was a dutch authir, columnist, poet not only famous about what he wrote but also because of his fight with the Catholic church because he could not understand why he was rejected of being gay. Since he did follow the first two rules.

I have some of his books but in the 80s they already looked very modern. This edition has cheaper - not bleached paper - but I am happy with it. It's about the words. Today it is.

Gerard Kornelis van het Reve (14 December 1923 – 8 April 2006) was a Dutch writer. He started writing as Simon Gerard van het Reve and adopted the shorter Gerard Reve [ˈɣeːrɑrt ˈreːvə] in 1973.[1] Together with Willem Frederik Hermans and Harry Mulisch, he is considered one of the "Great Three" (De Grote Drie) of Dutch post-war literature. His 1981 novel De vierde man (The Fourth Man) was the basis for Paul Verhoeven's 1983 film.Reve was one of the first homosexual authors to come out in the Netherlands.[2] He often wrote explicitly about erotic attraction, sexual relations and intercourse between men, which many readers considered shocking. However, he did this in an ironic, humorous and recognizable way, which contributed to making homosexuality acceptable for many of his readers. Another main theme, often in combination with eroticism, was religion. Reve himself declared that the primary message in all of his work was salvation from the material world we live in.

Gerard Reve was born in Amsterdam, Netherlands, and was the brother of the Slavicist and essayist Karel van het Reve, who became a staunch anti-communist in his own way; the personal rapport between the brothers was not good. They broke off relations altogether in the 1980s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Reve

Hello, first of all I think it's a great idea to which I subscribe. Let me read and understand the Spanish translation and I will comment again on what you ask.


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Hi Dear @weisser-rabe ! I liked the concept of bringing community's authors creativity into the offline world through a printed book .

It's a great way to showcase our talents, promote Steem, and leave a lasting legacy. and it can take a lot of time and effort, and you may also have to face challenges.

should the authors' real names be mentioned in the first work in question, or those of the Steem accounts?

I think using Steem account names could add a layer of intrigue and encourage readers to explore steemit platform.

Well Done👍 and I look forward to seeing this project come to life.

Now I'm back here... ;-)) Thanks a lot for your thoughtful reply. We will do our very best ;-))

This is taking dream steem to a whole new level.. is really a cool idea

This is taking dream steem to a whole new level..

I hope so ;-))

I find it disturbing when people completely seal off their online identity from real life. It doesn't seem credible or authentic. That's why I prefer to closely intertwine the two. This could be a step in that direction...

Well, at least there would be a large number of witnesses that a book was written. And whatever part one author gets of it as a reward is better than none

That's how I see it too ;-))

This sounds like a brilliant idea.
As a writer, I would jump and grab on this opportuntiy to have my piece included.

In terms of author names versus Steem handles, using real names could give authenticity to authors. The best way to approach would be to add both names.

Other than that, I'd suggest creating a category specifically for newer authors who joined after those initial keyword contests were held. Since I'm relatively new to the community myself, I didn't have the opportunity to participate in past contests. And I'm sure there are other writers here who joined more recently that would welcome a chance to be featured.

Excited for this to come to life!

I understand what you mean. With the mention of the date of joining on the Steem, the platform lifetime would be indication enough...? Maybe there's a more elegant way. I'll think about it ;-)) Thank you very much!

What a wonderful and unique idea. I want to be a part of this book but suddenly I feel I don't know how to write. 😆

P.S. Maybe you should include both steem and real names?

I would be so glad...! And yes, this seems to be the tendency... ;-))

Unique Idea. I think, if channelled properly, this would a start of something new and a brilliant type of publication. In my opinion, mentioning the real names of users would be more suitable but let's see what other members have to say about it.

Thanks, Huzaifa!

We have a lot of opinions: better to use the real names, better to use the Steem Accounts and better to name both ;-)) It will be a lot of debating.

My VP doesn't allow me to vote at the moment.

Consider my vote × 100,000,000.

What a brilliant idea! I definitely want to be a part of this book, but am I eligible enough?

Steem names plus real names.

Or as @rashid001 says:

I think using Steem account names could add a layer of intrigue and encourage readers to explore steemit platform.

I agree.

Ah, you make me happy! This is going to be good ;-))

Hallo @weisser-rabe,
die Idee finde ich richtig gut :)

Ich wäre gerne dabei, das würde mich (und andere sicher auch) motivieren beim Schlüsselwort der Woche mitzumachen :D

Ich schreibe sehr gerne, das ist meine Ausdrucksweise, so wie Picasso seine schrägen Bilder hatte^^

Wenn du Hilfe brauchst, das Buch zu veröffentlichen, wende dich gerne an mich. Ich habe letztes Jahr mein Buch auf BoD (Books on Demand) veröffentlicht (würde mich sehr freuen, wenn mein Buch vielleicht ganz hinten eingefügt werden könnte: Weitere Bücher von Steemians - oder so was in der Art :D ).
Die Plattform finde ich super, bietet verschiedene Pläne ab 30€ oder ich glaube sogar kostenlos E-Book. Sie behält sich pro verkauftem Buch allerdings eine Provision. Übernimmt dafür aber die Vermarktung (für einen Aufpreis) und hat viele Buchhändler an denen sie regelmäßig einen Katalog mit Neuerscheinungen schicken.
Nur so als kleiner Input, wenn dir das weiterhelfen kann ;)

Evtl. könnte man auch ein Gewinnspiel für das Cover machen, dass mehrere Cover zur Auswahl stehen und das Beste wird dann als Buchcover genommen und der Ersteller erhält einen kleinen Gewinn in Steem ;)

Was auch cool wäre, wenn jeder, der mitgemacht hat ein exemplar erhält, als E-Book kostenlos, wenn es mal ein gebundenes Buch wird natürlich mit Aufpreis. Ist in der Menge aber günstiger bei BoD, wird nur kompliziert mit Verschicken und vor allem Geld eintreiben :/

Hui! Dann willkommen und ran ans Schlüsselwort ;-))

Eins meiner Bücher hatte ich auch bei BoD veröffentlicht und von daher gemischte Erfahrungen. Hatte was für sich, aber für mich überwogen die Nachteile. Beispielhaft fiele mir hier ein, daß es ja nicht um den deutschsprachigen Raum geht - unsere Community-Amtssprache ist Englisch und der Vertrieb soll natürlich das ganze Einzugsgebiet unserer Autoren abdecken.

Ich habe mich für epubli entschieden. Da funktioniert es recht unkompliziet mit einer locker gebildeten Autorengemeinschaft ohne Rechtsrahmen einer Gesellschaftsgründung. Im Sinne einer Anthologie...

Es kommt demnächst ein Update; schau ruhig immer 'mal rein.

Naja, ich kam nur drauf, weil wir haben in Südtirol 3 Verlage. Zu einem passte mein Buch nicht, daher schickte ich kein Exemplar. Der andere Verlag hat abgelehnt, sie fanden es nichtmal schlecht, aber es ist eben einseitig, aus meiner Perspektive geschrieben, dann könnten sie verklagt werden, wenn sich jemand der Protagonisten im Buch verletzt fühlt. Der dritte Verlag war die Athesia, aber der Athesia gehört schon alles, daher wollte ich dort nicht veröffentlichen.

Also schrieb ich ChatGPT an und fragte wie ich mein Buch veröffentlichen kann. Um das Meiste rauszuholen, habe ich nach dem größten Anbieter gefragt und da hat es mir BoD vorgeschlagen^^ Stolze 3 Bücher wurden verkauft xD

Ah ok, muss ich dann meine Beiträge in Englisch schreiben, oder steht das jedem frei? Ich kann schon Englisch, aber ich fühle meine Texte mehr, wenn sie auf Deutsch sind. Aber wenns sein muss, schreib ich auch Englisch, das ist kein Problem. Vielleicht fühle ich die dann auch irgendwann, wenn sie Gewohnheit sind ;)

Bin so eben der Community gefolgt, um nichts mehr zu verpassen ^---^

Dafür schon 'mal lieben Dank ;-)) Und ja, bitte wenigstens eine englische Übersetzung beilegen, die Du selber authorisierst. Unter uns beiden wäre das Deutsche kein Problem, aber wenn da ganz andere Sprachgruppen ins Spiel kommen, ist die Übersetzung aus dem Englischen am zuverlässigsten. Und der englische Ausgangstext sollte vom Autor selbst kommen.

Wenn jemand gar kein Englisch kann und sich rein auf Tools verläßt, ist er vermutlich besser in einer muttersprachlichen Community aufgehoben.

Mit einer englischen Übersetzung beilegen würde für mich passen, da kann ich mich immer noch im Deutschen austoben und anschließend übersetzen ;)

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