@steemcleaners and @spaminator gone rogue - $11,000 per annum

in hive-108572 •  3 years ago  (edited)

Since I started @endingplagiarism, I've received a lot of comments (both positive and negative) comparing this to the work that @steemcleaners did. Some people happy that the anti-plagiarism initiative has returned (albeit in a new guise) and others unhappy that I'm not a bot so they can't fool me as easily.

So imagine my surprise when I pay @steemcleaners and @spaminator a visit and see that they've got themselves into a new initiative - spamming and vote farming through @spam-wars.

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Source - https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@spam-wars/have-you-been-hacked?sort=new#comments

A different user told me yesterday that they've started plagiarising content because "everybody else does it [sic]". And it appears that the good guys of yesteryear are no different.

Roughly $30 per day - $11,000 per year.

It saddens me how often greed seems to corrupt.

@steemcurator01 - Is there is anything you can do to put a stop to this?

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LOL. The hypocrisy. Complains other accounts are making money from spam comments. Proceeds to do the same.

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Pockets boatloads of cash over it from unsuspecting donors.

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If you were sincerely trying to do something, you wouldn't personally benefit from this. You'd burn the rewards or turn them off altogether so the everything goes back to the reward pool. If you need people to contribute, request delegations, not upvotes. Big if though. You won't because you want the money. Admit it.

Just admit you're another SCAM and move on.

You even upvote your own stuff.

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I wondered when you might show up...

The hypocrisy. Complains other accounts are making money from spam comments. Proceeds to do the same.

That's not spamming. That's sharing content which allows people who want to stop plagiarists and spammers from profiting on Steemit. It's commonly known as "a report". 1 per day is not excessive considering the regularity of payouts.

Here is a good example of spamming

Pockets boatloads of cash over it from unsuspecting donors.

If you were sincerely trying to do something, you wouldn't personally benefit from this. You'd burn the rewards or turn them off altogether so the everything goes back to the reward pool. If you need people to contribute, request delegations, not upvotes. Big if though. You won't because you want the money. Admit it.

Can you delegate all of your Steem to help stop plagiarism and spammers please?

Why shouldn't somebody who spends many hours stopping plagiarists and spammers get paid for their efforts? I assume you want your police department to work for free too and donate their wages to charity. I have no shame in admitting that I should get paid for the many, many hours I spend stopping people like you from profiting from their spam and plagiarism. The "boatloads of cash" (a term that is relative and understandable compared to the $8 per day you're spamming away) is insignificant compared to the tens of thousands of dollars that have been prevented from going to plagiarists and spammers.

As for the self-upvoting, you'll see that for a long period after this account was created that there wasn't a single self-upvote. The community recommended that I should self-upvote to increase the Steem and therefore increase my ability to stop plagiarists and spammers like you. Unlike most self-upvoters, I do it after others have upvoted so that I don't take away their curation rewards.

Once you've delegated me your Steem, then you'll have no reason to keep spamming and getting downvoted. Everybody wins.

That's not spamming. That's sharing content which allows people who want to stop plagiarists

You're not going to educate me or gaslight me. The community has gone over this many times in the past. Your definition does not overrule previous precedents. It's spam. Sorry. It goes beyond spam and becomes a ***post by earning you income. Your trying to redefine things does not change the facts.

You're not going to educate me

I'm sure many have tried and failed so I won't indulge you any further.

See you tomorrow 👋

On the contrary. In order for you to succeed, others would have had to fail. That is not the case though.

Can you delegate all of your Steem to help stop plagiarism and spammers please?

I love whataboutism logic. Choose an extreme to discredit a perfectly valid point. LOL. This is how I know I'm right when

  1. They try to redefine things
  2. Try to discredit the premise

Textbook

As for the self-upvoting, you'll see that for a long period after this account was created that there wasn't a single self-upvote.

LOL. I get this one from my kids a lot. "But I haven't lied or stolen in days!"

"long period" is subjective. It automatically invalidates itself.

The community recommended that I should self-upvote to increase the Steem

More redefinition. Actually, this is probably your community which you manage. The same ones that could just as easily delegate. Let's just say the second you earn any income, it automatically invalidates your entire argument against spam. It's essentially starting a non-profit to build homes for the homeless, while pocketing a portion of it to "reinvest" for the sake of building more homes. You have to admit it's not a good look at all. It puts you in exactly the same shoes as those you're trying to fight.

I mean, imagine that @spaminator went through the exact same thing with their community. They had the same people telling them to do this. In the end, where is the difference between them and you? You post the same regular reports. Self voting. You can try and justify all you want. Unless you turn off rewards and start taking delegations instead of self-voting, you're just @spaminator.

After more reflection, taking rewards runs contrary to your purpose again because the whole point of fighting spam is because the rewards pool is being diluted. Downvoting is fine because then that returns rewards to the pool for others, but when you yourself get the upvotes in place of the spammers you just downvoted, all that does is replace the problem. The downvotes end up not returning votes to the reward pool. Instead, the votes go to you which is really doing nothing. Once again, nothing has changed. Yeah, spammers are not getting rewards as heavily as before. Instead, you are and it just makes you another spammer. Actually, if you eventually become threatening enough to spammers, you're not just a spammer anymore, you're a racketeer because it becomes a protection racket.

I suggest you don't waste your time on those who were already kicked out from the community. They are like those beggars which you mostly find in a common society Because every community needs some beggars so they can donate their charity to them.

Prepetuator is one of them, So just chill and focus on your work. He/They doesn't want that you reach your goal and he gets kicked on his a** again.

You have a mute option - may be using it against these types of spammers is better than replying to them because they will keep defending until the admins don't freeze their account but the steemit team has a big heart and they say let them earn pennies so they can buy milk for their kids.

I appreciate your words. It's funny how the criticism comes from those that plagiarise and spam and not from the honest users.

You have a mute option

I feel that using it would be perceived as an admission that I'm doing something wrong. Since I am not, I'm happy for perpetuator to continue spamming this post until his kids steal his phone/keyboard and/or mouse.

More self voting above.

I'm glad someone finally saw what was going on. I think I told you about the situation on our first communication months ago. I also posted about it on 3-4 different other websites but also contacted their colleagues on Hive. Had a good fight with them because they said that although they have the same username, they don't use Steem at all. When I showed them that Steemcleaners on Hive was constantly reposting Hivewatchers posts etc they were pretending they don't understand. Anyway, will try to attach a couple of screenshots from March. Obviously I am so stupid that I try to help the situation on both platforms for free, only to get ridiculed.
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Asked @steemcurator01 a few days ago on another post if there is any open position for someone fighting spam and plagiarism but didn't get an answer.

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I think that if you search for Tron Foundation's website, they have a list of available vacancies.

Doing things like stopping spam and plagiarism appear to be a job for the community at the moment. Hopefully one day a profile like this one won't be required.

After searching for a week on different websites, didn't find anything. The only place I found with open positions was LinkedIn, but there was nothing about Steem.

That is funny af.

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Sadly, I know. I've highlighted so many accounts doing far worse than this.

The control of this platform has been taken over by thieves and scammers. Anyone who shills for it is obviously trying sycophant those thieves here, even when pretending to fight alleged abuse. If you want to focus on scam, thievery, mass plagiarism and circle jerk milking, then you should focus on top users here. They scam out tens of thousands of US dollars each day.

As @steemcleaners suggested in his (now deleted) reply, there are top users milking far more than this with multiple accounts posting plagiarised content on a daily basis. For thousands of dollars per week.

And as you say, I probably need at least 1 million steem power to make a dent in the "thieves and scammers" that have overrun the platform. @goodreader is the most obvious example whose posts I highlighted on a daily basis for a month, heavily funded by @alanyao and @tipu and nothing has been done.

Sycophant?

Perhaps revisiting this post will give @steemcleaners an indication of how sycophantic I am, and who I'm a sycophant to. Or maybe dig deeper into the main users highlighted in this post. I didn't choose those users by accident and certainly not to carry favour.

Pretending?

Some of us are just decent people who are fed up with people taking the piss and abusing what could be a hugely successful social media platform - which would benefit everybody. But that won't happen until everybody involved finds some integrity instead of deciding to plagiarise, spam and farm because "it's common".

@endingplagiarism
The comment was not deleted. It was made invisible by the front end as all steemcleaners content appears to have been hidden from view.
Also, we are farming here on purpose. We have mentioned it ourselves that we will do it here, and we encourage everyone who has left Steemit for Hive, and still has some power left, to do the same. I don't know who you are where you have been but Steemit was taken over by sociopath, child-king Sun. All legit and self-respecting Steemian left for Hive over q year ago when Hive forked. There's no one here except Sun's toadies whales and the army if Tron/sycophants. All those accounts that earn dozens to hundreds of SBD in trending are Korean and Chinese stooges of Sun who circle jerk each other. You would need 30 million not 1 million to deal with that although you would probably not last long. They would quickly fork you 30 million out just as Sun hostilely did with old witnesses.
If you want to fight abuse on a legitimate platform, you should rather do it on Hive. Steemit is a scam kingdom controlled by thieves.

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