God Hive the Steem!

rishi556 (62) · 5 years ago

Why announce and release so early? Why not give a bit more than a week(with a test net) for devs to port some of their applications over?

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5 votes

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

Because we are operating in extreme conditions caused by a hostile takeover, Steemit Inc. funds are actively being used to abuse the governance and we are at risk of even greater damage. We need to cut that cancer off, before it will inflict more damage to our home.
Sometimes you need to move fast, despite that you still don't have your favorite furniture or the walls painted well. We are moving in a hurry, but we will have infinite time to make our new home perfect.

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arenatoken (52) · 5 years ago (edited)

In this case, the best way out ...

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7 votes

jagged (59) · 5 years ago

Blow me. 😉

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resiliencia (68) · 5 years ago

Best possible answer .

bmanmcfly (47) · 5 years ago

Here's to hoping things work out; I'm probably not qualified to really express the concern properly.

We got the steem blockchain to be hard forked away into hive; they are keeping the same 'score' brought to the new chain, meanwhile the 'copy' of the previous fork remains under Justin.

So, Justin will continue his goal to attempt to profitably suck the life out of this platform, but the tokens of value have been simply copied over.

I recognize this won't be a perfect analogy; isn't that something like being stakeholders in a bank, you don't like the new CEO and so you take the logs copy down what everyone owned and then setup a new bank across the street under the promise that they will maintain what they had, but they have both an account at the old bank and an account at the new bank, each with the same balance.

This effectively doubles the money supply, should that not create a devaluation of it?

How do you protect yourself from Justin presuming that he maintains ownership of the ledger?

Let's just say I'm cautious about this war being waged and the damage that Justin can still cause, even by attempting to fork him out of the equation.

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

How do you protect yourself from Justin presuming that he maintains ownership of the ledger?

He doesn't on Hive.

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bmanmcfly (47) · 5 years ago

True, things will get more fuzzy when you are talking about migrating people's accounts, the issues surrounding TOS's (a person who signed up with steemit has a contract with steemit, NOT hive), and that steemit co has spent money developing, bringing 'customers' in and all, where there is a potential for some legal headaches.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Keep in mind that this could be a temporary setback as Hive could have so much potential which could make up for deflation, devaluation.

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jaybird (72) · 5 years ago

Agreed! Seems that time is not on anyone's side when it comes to this specific dispute.

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Agreed. Time is of the essence.

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

I imagine that not everyone wants this fork to happen or succeed. Probably we don't want to give them more time as they may want to do some damage.

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manniman (63) · 5 years ago

Mr @JustinSunSuxx is of course reacting and his influence is getting bigger by the day. This is very last minute anyway...

‘In case if emergency leave your hand luggage behind and move quickly towards the emergency exit.’

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Like the Angry Sun in those Super Mario Bros 3 levels where the sun follows Mario and attacks. We are Mario. We are leaving the desert level and moving onto the Hive planet.

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hans001 (57) · 5 years ago

Maybe esteem just works because anyx is using the hive chain.

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phusionphil (66) · 5 years ago

Justin didnt give us this option really with his hostile take over of the witnesses.

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wedacoalition (60) · 5 years ago

because of the ninja mine stake

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Too risky to do that.

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darlenys01 (72) · 5 years ago

Thanks for the information, changes are sometimes necessary even if it costs us.

Darlenys

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Agreed

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ssjsasha (67) · 5 years ago

this is a good time to be alive

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ssjsasha (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

I too am taking a waiting a see stance before I do any sort of power down for the first time ever.

Ideally Justin can do good here once he is settled at least in his own perspective.

Ideally also Hive takes off and does what everyone always hoped steem would do.

Fun to see outsiders come asking questions and speculating on steem price though, nice to see our coin get some volume and well deserved attention.

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borislavzlatanov (54) · 5 years ago

Anything we can do to help more exchanges participate in the airdrop?

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gtg (70) · 5 years ago

It's in their best interest because it's in the best interest of their clients. So if you are a client of an exchange that list STEEM and you haven't seen their announcement yet, ask them if they are going to support airdrop.
Aslo it's good idea to ask if they are going to list HIVE.

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phusionphil (66) · 5 years ago

I will be providing 90 Day Hive Power Delegations with @zelegations, if @blocktrades wants to work together I can provide high security Zcash transactions for customers to maintain their anonymity while buying large 90 Day Delegations. Unlike other crypto the Z Address will provide an extra layer of anonymity by shielding the transaction from the network.

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creativeblue (61) · 5 years ago

Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

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elsiekjay (76) · 5 years ago

You're not that fast, I think I might catch ya :P

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7 votes

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

lol

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stuffbyspencer (61) · 5 years ago

Hey there man, I'm excited for the change. One thing I'd like to propose, is a way to help boost the initial dapp-ecosystem for Hive. This would be a great way to get more users in, and I also think some media attention.

My idea is to host a Hive-Hackathon.

I saw in the announcement that we won't be migrating over the 75 million "ninja-mined" stake, correct? If that's true, I'd like to offer a counter-suggestion that I think would greatly help benefit Hive:

Instead of more or less running away from this stake that has plagued our decentralization from the beginning and just throwing it out, or erasing it, I propose we put it to better use. We could turn this annoying thing into something positive, that will help boost Hive. I propose we migrate over the 75 million steem, but split it into 3 different areas:

Put some into the proposal system to help boost it's initial wallet value - this will help increase the amount of development work we'd kick off with & cause a rapid boom to Hive immediately, rather than having to wait for the SPS wallet to fill up over time
Put some into marketing efforts, or setup a marketing-based SPS - this would allow people who are talented with graphics / videos, and people who are willing to put down their own cash for ad space, to setup pitches on different ads & marketing stunts, which the community would vote on to help market Hive from day one
Set aside the rest to host "Dapp Development Hackathons" - The main selling point of any blockchain, are the dapps. We could host a hackathon where we handout prizes to dapp developers who utilize the Hive chain to build something fun / cool / useful. This would help bootstrap our ecosystem and help spur in a huge influx of dapps, so we'd immediately have stuff to show off.

In addition to number 3, I recommend that our first Dapp Hackathon that we host is centered around the coronavirus. We could host a contest encouraging developers to utilize Hive to develop tools & services that somehow help with the pandemic. This could be anything from outbreak-tracking websites, to informational wikis, or even on-chain group-messaging dapps to connect with friends & families. Not only would this be a timely & good cause, but it may also get us some press. I'm sure various outlets would write articles about "This Brand New Forked Chain Is Starting Off With A Good Cause". That's pretty good marketing to come out the gate with.

4 votes

ecoinstar (63) · 5 years ago

Brilliant, I wouldn't mind if we organized something like that!

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stuffbyspencer (61) · 5 years ago

LootKit presents: Hive-Hackathon-for-Healing 🎒⛑️

We should put this into the works ;^)

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hobo.media (64) · 5 years ago

Its better to just not do hackathons until the virus issue is over.

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stuffbyspencer (61) · 5 years ago

Hackathons don't have to be get togethers. They can be completely virtual.

You can work solo, or on a team over discord / slack. I'm currently working in a 3-man group & we're all remote.

Having a Hive-Hackathon-for-Healing would be not only a great way to get more dapps into our ecosystem early on, not only would it be for a good cause, but on top of both of that it'd probably get us good press.

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

But do you really want to stop the Corona Virus or 1984 tyranny which uses pandemics in order to hostile takeover humanity like Tron Overlord Justin Sun did to Steem but in real-life in countries around the world?

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yoshiko (71) · 5 years ago

Thanks for working for us who lost their place! I will gladly move to Hive;D

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Thanks

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mys (62) · 5 years ago

Hive ✋✋✋✋✋

5 votes

cardboard (61) · 5 years ago

Exactly, Hive Five is such a good slogan :)

direwolf (65) · 5 years ago

6 votes

angel35mm (65) · 5 years ago

NOICEEE!!!!! LOLLL

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engrave (64) · 5 years ago

Well, and there've been four Steem festivals... Time to Hive5! ;)

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toofasteddie (70) · 5 years ago

Dear @gtg , first of all, let me thank you for all the exceptional work you have done and still do for the community, I agree with you, steem is not a place neither our community name...
Just I would like to ask you if the new blockchain will have exactly the same properties in terms of power-down time, rewarding time, 50/50 splitting between HIVE and HIVEPOWER , rewarding curve, witness votes etc... or are you guys also refining those variables as well?
Thanks in advance.

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

For now nothing else changes, we need to cut the cancer off, rebuild, and then we start working on improvements.

steemmillionaire (65) · 5 years ago

"Hope is the only bee that makes honey without flowers" - Robert G. Ingersoll
See you on the bright side!

pkocjan (60) · 5 years ago

See you 😁 go go Hive 🍷

traducciones (59) · 5 years ago

Hi @gtg , because your post contains some important information about the migration to HIVE, if you aprove I could translate this post to Spanish as well.

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

Only if you are professional translator, please, I don't want things to be lost in translation :-) Otherwise it's better when people just use auto-translation of their choosing.
Thanks!

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Hive. Dios dale una colmena a Steem!

traducciones (59) · 5 years ago

Ok @gtg here my translation:

traducciones (59) · 5 years ago (edited)

I am, don't worry @gtg.

PS: An autotranslation would return "Colmena" instead of Hive and I prefer translate like this Hive ("La Colmena") or would translate "hard fork" into "tenedor duro" (makes no sense), it's hard fork (bifurcacion de cadena de bloques).

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traducciones (59) · 5 years ago

For example: "God Hive the Steem!" there is no literal translation for that without losing "Hive" as a word, so I translate like this: "Hive. Dios dale una colmena a Steem!" So using Hive first I don't lose the key word "Hive" in the translation, but then I use "colmena" (hive) as a proxy to a shelter for the Steem community. That's how you don't lose the idea of the wording game, but also it's not a literal translation.

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manniman (63) · 5 years ago

You should really do that.

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traducciones (59) · 5 years ago

When I get the ok from @gtg I'll do (already translated other key messages related to HIVE transition).

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manniman (63) · 5 years ago

You community is very important and needs to be considered more often. A lot of great people!

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osavi (57) · 5 years ago

I'm looking forward to Hive! I'm so excited! <3

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Me too.

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xmauron3 (58) · 5 years ago

blockchain wizardry 😂 loved it

power to the people ;)

pmarcelo (21) · 5 years ago

Now hive and next year ? Instasteem ?

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sathyasankar (63) · 5 years ago

Hive on @gtg

erode (68) · 5 years ago

🎉👏👏

movingman (69) · 5 years ago

I have been under a rock and have no electric to keep up because of lockdowns in spain. The steem token is dead then right?

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

Not yet, at this very moment it has great value because whoever will own STEEM at the time of fork will also own HIVE.
After the fork however, IMHO (not financial advise, etc) it will be just speculative token used by Sun to dump, without much value behind it. IMHO value goes where all those passionate developers and creators are going. To The Hive.

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greenfooteco (52) · 5 years ago

How do you get your hive tokens if you only hold steem on the platform?

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movingman (69) · 5 years ago (edited)

Good question, I do hope its just an airdrop! Great to see your name again eco

edit: We do nothing its an oldschool airdrop

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greenfooteco (52) · 5 years ago

Thanks for getting back to me man! I'm hoping soon I will have some more time to get back to this as you know times are wild!

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movingman (69) · 5 years ago (edited)

Yeh I got that, but is it just on the exchanges for the airdrop or for all steem accounts regardless? Hive has a better brand name anyway, and we fucked off the ruler, so Im definatly switching to the anarchy chain!

I hope in a few days at most to be chilling out somewhere nice and not under house arrest haha!

Edit: Just read an answer, thanks

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

If you don't say "Not Financial Advice," will a piano fall on your head? People everywhere say in their YouTube videos that they are not doctors, not this, not that. People are always saying that something is not advice. I find it very sad that people do this. I guess people are scared of getting taken to court, sued, or who knows what. But people will take you to court no matter what you say or not say. Some people can try to lay low and play it safe. It's trying to not offend people, etc.

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jacobpeacock (66) · 5 years ago

Good words and good work @gtg!

I am thrilled for the new blockchain!

I will stay around on for a while to help Steemians upgrade/move to Hive.

I was thinking of doing a bit of the same.

Cheers and may the swarm be with you!

ramengirl (76) · 5 years ago

Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication @gtg!
I am thrilled for Hive :) See you there!

psytopia (41) · 5 years ago (edited)

Will there eventually be a change the user interface so it will look different from steemit?

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

Yes! :-) (It will take some time, however)

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argsolver (52) · 5 years ago

See you in the Hive @gtg!

bagofincome (53) · 5 years ago

Tomorrow will go down in history! BOI is excited to be here!

waybeyondpadthai (76) · 5 years ago

Very excited sirrrr

!giphy sexy dance

(hope it works here.. wait.. I'm a bit confused but yes, hope it works :D)

giphy (53) · 5 years ago

giphy is supported by witness untersatz!

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Confused? You? No way. Just kidding. Sounds just about right. Just kidding. Stay safe.

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waybeyondpadthai (76) · 5 years ago

confused if the command 'giphy' would work here since i was commenting on hive.blog lol

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

lol good work

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steemmatt (69) · 5 years ago

For someone with Steem in their name, can our names be modified to remove it on the new chain? Being "Steemmatt" on Hive will be annoying.

gtg (70) · 5 years ago

Unfortunately not. You can create a new account...
There's no reason to worry about your origin.
Whole Hive was born from Steem.
By the way, I have a tons of Steem branded stuff...

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apiekarczyk (53) · 5 years ago

Lets Hive a good time!

smitop (52) · 5 years ago

Where can I find the source code?

golden.future (66) · 5 years ago

I love STEEM. But, I like more Decentralized Platform. So, I will move to HIVE.
See you in HIVE.

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cranium (76) · 5 years ago

Thanks for the article.
Tomorrow will be a great day, with just over a day left. We make history.

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5 votes

joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

Cool

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danizaharie (69) · 5 years ago

How will we get hive tokens? Do we get both for steem and sp?

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offgridmaker (54) · 5 years ago

I joined steemit a year ago, but only recently started reading commenting and posting content. I currently use seemit and post to steamit, because it's the only way I know to do it. I strongly believe in decentralized platform and want to move to Hive, but am unclear how to do it. search tool seems to be useless or I don't know how to use it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Apologies for their peripheral reply if it's bad etiquette

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

One option is to try this: https://steemit.com/static/search.html?q=

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offgridmaker (54) · 5 years ago

Thanks.

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nigerian-yogagal (57) · 5 years ago

Am still trying to understand the hype behind the hive upgrade!

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yannis182 (53) · 5 years ago

Can’t wait to move to Hive! Is there any way to help build some front end ?

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imranbhatti00abc (40) · 5 years ago

i like that poetry. Nice one
You're not that fast, I think I might catch ya :P

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douglasjames (35) · 5 years ago

Can you tell me what the implications will be for SMTs?

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mattsanthonyit (73) · 5 years ago

Brother 💪@gtg I always look up to you. Gracias. Long live Hive

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michaelchijioke (58) · 5 years ago

Ticket booked. See you on the other side

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rmach (68) · 5 years ago

See you in the other side in a few hours. 👌

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sanjeevm (63) · 5 years ago

Will the Hive airdrop will only be performed on the current version of the Steem blockchain as of Tuesday March 17 2020 ? I did a post, but yet to get any answer from any dev !!

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gtg (70) · 5 years ago

Fork, that is "airdrop" will be performed on Friday, please read the announcement carefully.

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sanjeevm (63) · 5 years ago

The Hive airdrop will only be performed on the current version of the Steem blockchain (as of the date of this post) , so what does that (as of the date of this post) means ?

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manniman (63) · 5 years ago

That last Quote fit’s very well

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kinakomochi (72) · 5 years ago

See you on there!😆

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stellabelle (75) · 5 years ago

love this! I always respected you a lot because you're true to the same principles. And you've never wavered.

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novacadian (58) · 5 years ago

Said as only a former Chairman of the Board could say it. Thanks for all you have contributed to the DPoS project, @gtg.

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russia-btc (60) · 5 years ago

I'm already running to you - wait for me

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gringo211985 (60) · 5 years ago

@gtg please see my idea about everyone moving their content over to Hive by deleting it from steemit and replacing with a nice note "Please see this content at hive.io/@username bla bla" check out my idea at https://steemit.com/hive/@gringo211985/seo-solution-for-hive-io-let-s-take-our-content-with-us

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seckorama (68) · 5 years ago

Just hope that everything will go smoothly... 🙌

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diamond-head (46) · 5 years ago

Its time for hive festivel 🎆

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tonytrillions (66) · 5 years ago

!giphy awesome

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giphy (53) · 5 years ago

giphy is supported by witness untersatz!

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fwelectronics (37) · 5 years ago

Now read about what's going on on steemit started officially today after being convinced to show my work how do you become a HIVE GOD.

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phusionphil (66) · 5 years ago (edited)

You have my support too, I am stressing over the @zelegations and @steemvpn fork to Hive but I can easily adjust the colors to start and then rebrand later.

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covid19 (39) · 5 years ago

What we have to expect about our funds on steem? do you suggest to withdrawal?

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tompi (47) · 5 years ago

yes,,,

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tonytrillions (66) · 5 years ago

!giphy awesome

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giphy (53) · 5 years ago

giphy is supported by witness untersatz!

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fibra59 (72) · 5 years ago (edited)

The Hive is spreading like coronavirus.Hive ON! :)

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

lol

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enthef (43) · 5 years ago

How will steem-engine and trading work on this platform? Is it the same?

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livinguktaiwan (74) · 5 years ago

Thank you for everything @gtg and everyone who has been working behind the scenes to make Hive possible. Will definitely see you all on Hive!

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tomsmaid (62) · 5 years ago

Still trying to find out about APPICS app, is it will be supported on Hive?

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zulqaini (64) · 5 years ago

Thanks information

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joeyarnoldvn (61) · 5 years ago

I will be on Steem to share some of my Hive posts but my heart and soul will be focused mostly on Hive. One of my concerns is all the links I have on my blog that links back to posts I wrote on Steemit, including future posts I have not written yet.

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resiliencia (68) · 5 years ago

Thanks for the hard work Gandalf! We have a privilege of being in the same community with you!

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pmarcelo (21) · 5 years ago

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nirvana25 (42) · 5 years ago

Hope for the very best nd welcome new technology. COME ON HIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sharatdotinfo (52) · 5 years ago

I really hope Hive will be like Steemit but censorship resistant. Do you kno when users will be able to start using Hive?

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