Namaste
Lately (thanks to discovering @matrix-8's Introduction and White Paper post) I've been imagining a network of cube/spheres. Each sphere has a cube within it with the corners of the cube touching the inner surface of the sphere (at eight points).
Level A Cube Spheres
This is the entry level, with multiple Cube/Sphere's (let's call them CS’s for brevity) arranged in groups of eight CS’s.
Level B Cube Spheres
The groups of eight level A CS’s are arranged in such a way that a larger Level B CS sits around them with it's eight touching points placed exactly in the centre of each of the eight CS’s in the level 1 group.
So now we have eight level A CS’s and one level B CS.
The diagram below depicts this to some extent, but it is not in 3D therefore only shows four Level A CS’s whereas there should be eight, but i expect you will get the idea.
If anyone would like to make a 3D representation i would be grateful (and the Matrix-8 Platform will reward you in tokens once it is up and running). Please comment below if you can help with this, or share with someone you think might be able to help.
Now we can replicate these Level B CS’s (each containing its own eight smaller Level A CS’s) so we have now have eight Level B CS’s each connected to eight Level A CS’s, making a total of 64 small Level A CS's and eight Level B CS's.
Level C Cube Spheres
Next we place an even larger (Level C) CS in such a position to contain these eight Level B CS's, again with it's points (where the cube corners touch the inner surface of the sphere) in the centre of each Level B CS.
So we now have one Level C CS, which contains eight Level B CS’s and sixty four Level A CS’s.
Replicate this level C CS so we have eight Level C CS’s, sixty four Level B CS’s, and 4096 Level A CS's.
For now let's add just one more even bigger CS at Level D, the touching points of which sit in the centre of the eight CS's of Level C.
Infinite Scaling
We can continue infinitely, but for now let’s leave it at just 3 levels. There is no limit to how many levels, and therefore how many level A CS’s there can be in this network.
But what could it be used for?
The Matrix-8 Platform - A Dynamic Structure in the form of a 3D FRACTAL ….
Imagine at each of the touching points of the Level A CS's (that is, at each corner of the cube within the sphere), there is a chair.
Members (anyone with a smartphone who has registered and been approved to join the network - approved to check they are a real, unique person) comes to sit one the chairs in their Level A CS group (known in the Matrix-8 platform as an 8-PAC, which stands for 8 People in Active Communication) on Level A.
Note: We may need to switch on our anti-gravity devices so those at the top don't fall into the laps of those below :-)
The quotes which follow are from the Matrix-8 White Paper
8 PEOPLE IN ACTIVE COMMUNICATION
Quantitatively, as a 3D Fractal, it is designed to standardly and equitably regulate the Democratic Process within large Groups – Groups too large for all of the Participants to sit around any one table. The size of the core, elemental Fractal I chose, is a group of 8. For discussions of what to do, 8 is not so numerous that an Individual will feel lost in a crowd. And it is not so few that it can be easily dominated by one strong personality. I have called these groups, 8 PAC's – 8 People in Active Communication. (And serendipitously, with 8 bits to the byte, it is in line with ease of programming.)”
Now if we have 3 full Levels as described above, with all the seats full ONLY in the Level A CS 8-PAC’s, there will be 4096 x 8 = 32,768 people..
THE DEMOCRATIC TRILEMMA [http://janlo.de/Project_Lorenz_2014.pdf]
The three horns of the Democratic Trilemma are:
- Inclusive Participation;
- Exhaustive Deliberation; and
- Rational Accords.
Academics tell us we can't have all three - only two at a time. This makes modern Democracies problematic.”
Imagine a group of 32,768 people having a group meeting to discuss a topic/project/problem in an attempt to come to an agreement for a course of action. It would be complete chaos. Not everyone (in fact hardly anyone) would be able to get their voice heard, to offer their opinion, or proposal, or suggestion about the topic/project/problem. It would not be possible for 1.Inclusive Participation, or
2.Exhaustive Deliberation or
3.Rational Accords
with a group so large.
However, The Matrix-8 Platform ….
takes the Democratic Process—as naturally practiced in small Groups—and applies them to Groups of any size. The matrix grows, not arithmetically: 8, 16, 24, 32, etc, but geometrically: 8, 64, 512, 4,096, etc. You can think of it in its simplicity as an ever-expanding Agreement Factory. It is an Internet Platform expediting the Democratic Process.
The easiest way to think about this Democratic Trilemma is to see that it is basically a problem of logistics. Pure Democracy works great – until there are too many Participants to sit comfortably around a council fire – or a big conference table. Deliberations breakdown when there are too many Participants for everyone to be heard. The best solution to date has been in Representative Democracies – but a quick scan of the headlines will let you know that that is not good enough. Wars, governmental intrusion, waste, and corruption, seem to be inescapable. My system solves the Democratic Trilemma, and it would go a long way in reducing governmental intrusion, waste, and corruption!
So, if instead of just one meeting of 32,768 people, each of the 4,096 Level A Cube/Sphere 8-PAC’s were to have a group meeting (with just 8 people in each meeting), it would be MUCH easier for everyone in each group to have their say, and to be able to come to a consensus of agreement, a rational accord.
Qualitatively, the Matrix-8 Platform mimics Human Nature. It focuses on and follows the same mechanics we use naturally in our small Groups of like-minded Individuals as we interact with others towards optimum actions. E.g.: You and 7 friends are sitting around the kitchen table deciding what to do that evening. Everyone chimes in with their opinions (and their opinions on their friends' opinions). After a while, when Deliberations have run their course, you as a Group reach an Accord: you agree to go eat Chinese, then go see a specific movie.”
What next?
We now have 4,096 rational accords. What good is that?
After each Level A 8-PAC has reached a rational accord, an agreement on the next step to take if you like, they will vote for a delegate from their group, to speak on behalf of the group in an 8-PAC's on Level B where 512 meetings will then take place to discuss, deliberate and reach a more concentrated accord based on the accords reached from the 8-PAC's they are speaking.
... the platform is designed to continually concentrate agreements, guarantees that no external Censorship will ever be needed. As back eddies to the general flow in an 8-PAC occur, those folks who disagree will be filtered out and reassigned to 8-PAC's where their views will be shared by their Peers. No one needs to be forced to stay within Groups with which they disagree. And no one needs to take any rejection personally – because no one knows who you are. Only the Data, and Ideas about how to implement that Data towards the Group's Goals, are debated. Those minority Participants shunted into their own 8-PAC's can continue their Deliberations with the hopes of getting something done according to their own particular set of agreements. Thus, as the Deliberations continue – the Value of the information discussed will continue to increase through refinement. This is strikingly different from the normal Chatroom environment.
The Level B 8-PAC's will again each elect a delegate who will take their accords to 64 8-PAC meetings on Level C, then finally 8 meetings on Level D, where a super concentrated accord will be reached.
Action will then be taken based on the agreement of 32,768 people.
I have been attempting here to describe in my own words (but using some extracts from the white paper) to describe in a more concentrated way how the Matrix-8 Platform works.
The White Paper however goes into much more detail and will answer many questions which may have come to you after reading this post.
Are you inspired?
If you are just the tiniest bit inspired by the possibilities of using such a system, and would like to help John @matrix-8 and i move this forward to build a working platform on Steem, please take the time to read the Matrix-8 White Paper, resteem this post and resteem the white paper and make a comment below to share your understanding and thoughts.
We are particularly looking for developers to create the Matrix-8 Dapp, but also to create a list of inspired people who are ready to jump into seats as soon as it's ready. Don't worry, Anti-Gravity devices will be supplied.
Peace and Love to all
Atma
ps. You can read my previous post - Why? - here.
pps. Earlier today i started to read a wonderful story (parts 1 and 2) by @stillgideon. I encourage you to read them here: https://steempeak.com/@atma.love/the-big-shift-part-1-the-rise-of-o-the-great-leader-hive-174578
and https://steempeak.com/@stillgideon/the-big-shift-part-2-year-zero
Very interesting. Bookmarked your post for later detailed analyses, and possibly read the whitepaper of Matrix-8.
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Thanks for your comment brother. I look forward to hearing back from you with your thoughts.
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Proof of share on FB https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157977432713149&id=679338148
and LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/posts/atmalove_cube-spheres-to-bring-abundance-and-peace-activity-6636619009863282689-xdPS
#POSH
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A bit beyond my understanding in the details, Not a coder.
I can see the 3D image in my head though and the increasing cube squared.
I see what you say here as levels of agreement. Starting with the mass Highest number of individuals at the exterior. As groups of agreement are formed it moves to an inner part of the cube until reaching the central point where the choice is made.
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Yeah, thats the gist of it, but it a real time democrity, it's not static, and it's not one direction only. Anyone from Level A can sit in on the Level B, C, D etc meetings to hear whats going on, to keep an eye on the delegates, to ensure they are properly speaking for the group they represent and not going off on a tangent or against the accord. The observing lower level members can also send text messages to the delegate (of their 8-PAC) with new instructions from them if needed. If the delegate is still not following the agreed accord, then the delegate can be recalled (potentially even in the middle of a meeting) by the other members of the 8-PAC who elected him and be replaced immediately with another.
You don't need to be a coder to understand. I am not. But it does take a bit of reading and q & a's (as we've not yet desribed it to its full with examples) to get to grips with it. I encourage you to read the white paper which goes into more depth and will definitely help with understanding more.
Perhaps @matrix-8 John Huckel may step in here as well.
I encourage you to read the white paper
https://steempeak.com/steemit/@matrix-8/a-newbie-s-combination-introduction-and-white-paper
which goes into much more depth and detail which will help enormously with understanding more. In my humble opinion, the Matrix-8 Platform truly has the potential to replace the current corrupt governmental and business systems to allow the abundance that is already here on planet earth to be more fairly distributed. And likewise in the Steemit ecosystem. I hope to hear back from you with any further questions you may have.
Namaste
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This might help too:
Glossary
Democrity
– A style of Governance enjoyed by a population that uses Democratic Processes to reach Accords, but without the use of concomitant Enforcement.
Real-time Democrity
– Analogous to the Democrity enjoyed by Band Societies making decisions around a council fire, or the Direct Democracy of early Puritan Colonists making decisions in a Town Meeting – Real-time Democrity describes the continual deliberative processes provided by a MultiLevel Governance (defined below) Internet Platform. Unlike Direct Democracy, it is not limited in the number of Participants, their proximity, nor is it hampered by scheduling constraints.
MultiLevel Governance (MLG)
– The formulation of a substitute for traditional Government, providing the efficiencies of Real-time Democrity (Democracy without the Force). (See www.MLGov.org)
The Matrix-8 Platform
– The Internet-based program that allows millions to efficiently Participate, Deliberate, and reach Accords, in real time. It is the engine of Democrity.
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You should come to the Alliance and discus this with people who can give more umpf to it than I can.
No one around right now. Tomorrow sometime though @jackmiller @enginewitty will be around. I am sure there would be some interest.
I do see the depths of it. For myself I can see the use of the system to create a Steem entity. An account owned by none and all so to speak. The account would have to work under a constitution and have an oversight committee that ensures the account constitution is adhered to.
My own goal is bigger than myself and to begin a reduction to the cost of living for populations. I believe this can be done utilising what we have available with Steem. The investment needed would be big but the returns much bigger.
https://discord.gg/mqvYNuA
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Absolutely. This is exactly the way i see it. Neither i nor John wish to own this. It will be built by the people for the people, all for one and one for all. I see that the "comittee" would be the highest level 8-PAC, and not a group of fixed people, but delegates elected and re-elected or replaced by the lower level 8-PAC's. Of course those who bring value to the system, in the initial build phase and in ongoing support will be rewarded for the "net realised value" brought to the "entity", rewarded in tokens much like Steem does now, but the token holding will not give extra power. One man one vote!
i'm not so good with live group discussions. i find it easier when i have time to deliberate before speaking. I also find it difficult to get a word in in group discussions. I also have some difficulty with hearing. A few evenings ago i came to a live talk on discord but was unable to find a space in which to talk. Also i'm in a different time zone, living in Bulgaria. It's 1.11 am here now!
Not saying i won't, but discussing in a space like this, where all can claerly see the thread, and where it's recorded on the blockchain so others can see later, can be very helpful to the process.
Mine too brother (i'm assuming you're a guy for some reason :-). Actually i don't consider this body, this person to be my real self, just a dream character in the dream of life. I do intend though that he (Atma) acts for the highest good, for the One true self, not for the little egoic i.
Thank you for engaging here. I appreciate you.
Paz y amor
Atma
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Maybe we can discuss just in the chat. Taking time to deliberate and not auto respond is a good thing. Either way. If you ever want some thinking out of the box. We will be here to try help.
We seem to be working toward the same type ideals.
Yes I am a he.
Finance as always is what holds most things back. And I am a long way from having the finance generator investment needed. But keep placing one foot in front of the other.
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