Project.hope: new HIVE chain / old steem chain

coach.piotr (63) in hive-175254 • 4 years ago

Good morning everyone,

INTRODUCTION

I will try to keep this post short. Do not resteem this publication - it's directed to only small group of people behind project.hope.

My goal is to clarify my and project.hope approach towards recent fork. Many of you asked me number of questions about future of PH and I still don't have all necessary answers.

- What do you think about posting on both chains

Project.hope will be supporting content created by all authors collaborating with us so far. Regardless if they will be posting on hive or steemit. Or both.

Personally I believe, that majority of users will post same content on both chain. Most likely original publications will be posted on HIVE and then Steem blockchain. And we will support all of those posts the best way we can.

- would you recommend to post on steem or hive first?

In my opinion most downvoters and flag abusers are moving to HIVE. Also most troublemakers are moving there too. I would expect that posting on hive similar content which has been already posted on steemit can attract unwanted attention.

For that reason, my suggestion is always to prioritize posting on HIVE chain first and at least 1-2 hours later on Steem blockchain. Let all bots (which are scanning and monitoring newly published articles for plagiarism) do their job.

We all know, that posting our own content on personal blog and then on steem wasn't considered plagiarism. But I'm pretty sure if we post something on steemit first, then some powerful users will claim that it's a plagiarism (because it will fit their agenda/narration) and they may start targeting such a publications.

At the same time I expect, that those who will stay on Steemit will simply not care about giving anyone trouble for posting content, which has been

IMPORTANT:
If you do repost anything, then ensure that all links within your publication are "local". Meaning: do not redirect your audience to steemit in your new HIVE posts. And the other way around - make sure that your steemit posts do not have links to new hive publications. That can surely be "frown upon".

- should I engage on both chains?

Personally I don't see it happening. I'm not going to copy+paste same comments on both chains. I think everyone would have to figure out on which chain they want to be mostly active.

And that brings us to another question:

- should I share links to both of my posts via project.hope TELEGRAM channel? Or just one?

JUST ONE link is enough.

Our telegram channel is helping me with content discovery and regardless how busy I am - checking this channel is my priority. I will engage in comment section with links to post shared by you on this channel.

So everyone need to chose if he care about promoting his content on HIVE/STEEM. And share one link only. I will then do my best to read this post myself, resteem it and drop some valuable comment.

At the same time I will always check if you posted also on other chain and assuming that you did set up beneficiary to PH fund - I will upvote your content on both chains.

So to wrap it up: I will support with upvotes all your content, on both chains. But you need to figure out on which chain you like to build engagement with me and others.

- what about my top3 reviews

Some of you are posting weekly reviews of best publications done within PH hope. This topic may be a bit tricky.

I would like everyone to continue posting those reviews on STEEM blockchain, however if you like to post it also on hive then I do not see any problem with it. I will support both with some decent upvote.

Just ensure to post first on HIVE and also that links within your post are not directing users to opposite blockchain. It may also happen, that one of top3 selected publication may not be present on both chains. Those are small challenges, that you guys would have to address yourself.

If you post your top3 review on both chains, then DM me both links.

I hope I'm making sense?

Hope it does clarify project.hope and my personal stand on this entire issue? Please drop a comment, share your thoughts. I really care about opinion of each one of you. Not opinion of others - whales, witnesses, justins - I care about YOURS opinion, since I work closely with you guys.

If anyone would have more questions, then please share them with me in comment section below.

Yours, Piotr

Note: you may have noticed that most posts on steemit are being spammed with some abusive comments. I would recommend to mute all those users:

innerhive
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sirvotesalot

cc:
@reinaldoverdu,
@futurekr,
@ben-edom,
@ritxi,
@jadams2k18,
@culgin,
@thetimetravelerz,
@samminator,
@ajewa,
@mojubare,
@tomlee,
@blockchainfo,
@machnbirdsparo,
@gandhibaba,
@chireerocks,
@henry-9ja,
@ojerinde,
@cryptolohy7,
@achim03,
@honarparvar,
@forykw,
@solarwarrior,
@frederickbangs,
@josediccus,
@lanzjoseg,
@alokkumar121,
@focusnow,
@oluwatobilob,
@carlos84,
@vlemon,
@fucho80,
@edgarare1,
@pedrobrito2004,
@phgnomo,
@eni-ola,
@hardaeborla,
@juanmolina,
@flash07,
@gbenga,
@awah,
@carlos84,
@omo-ope

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4 years ago by coach.piotr (63)

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samminator (75) · 4 years ago

Thanks a lot for the guidelines. It was well detailed. I believe everyone has the right to choose any blockchain their content should be made or even both. So I don't see any problem in it. well, that's what decentralization means.

Many thanks buddy

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crypto.piotr (70) · 4 years ago

@tipu curate

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tipu (67) · 4 years ago

Upvoted 👌 (Mana: 5/15 - need recharge?)

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lanzjoseg (74) · 4 years ago

Hello, a big greeting to everyone.

Indeed, I will publish both chains, however I have a very personal problem, for the very short or very limited time I have in terms of my internet connection and for problems with the supply of electricity service in the area where I live. That problem will limit me with the amount of comments. I don't think I can comment to everyone on both channels. but i will try and do my best ,,

everyone have my support ..

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awah (63) · 4 years ago

All your comments make sense. Time will tell which platform becomes the most successful and until then we need to keep a foot in both camps.

Your suggestion to keep links local rather than cross-link between Steem and Hive is a good one.

What a year!!!

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deathcross (77) · 4 years ago

It's all too complicated and time-consuming for me. I'm glad I made my own Wordpress site.

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jadams2k18 (64) · 4 years ago

Will you be censored next?

Is that a threat from the feline I hate most in Steemit?

This didn't happen before, if so I know where I'm going to post from now on, unfortunately.

I haven't decided yet, but I'll probably post more at Hive. I don't want to be watched, surveilled or monitored constantly. I'll post on both anyway initially, and if the threats are real, I'll just stay with Hive. Obviously, after I get all my SP out of Steemit.

Good luck, everybody! :D

Stay safe ^_^

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reinaldoverdu (66) · 4 years ago (edited)

xHi @crypto.piotr

i Will work More on hive, and of course i continúe doing the top 3 on both chains, but following your recomendations.

All understanded, it make Sense.

I choose only to comment on hive.

hope soon anyone develops an app for hive to android or at least Port one of the actuals(e-steem mobile maybe), because you know i work using the phone, so it Is very difgicult for me, take on count that.

cheers

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cheetah (77) · 4 years ago

Hi! Did you know that steemit.com is now censoring users and posts based on their opinions?
All the posts of these users are gone!
https://github.com/steemit/condenser/commit/3394af78127bdd8d037c2d49983b7b9491397296

Here's a list of some banned users:
'roelandp', 'blocktrades', 'anyx', 'ausbitbank', 'gtg', 'themarkymark', 'lukestokes.mhth', 'netuoso', 'innerhive'
See anyone you recognize? There could be more, they also have a remote IP ban list.

Will you be censored next?

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karamyog (72) · 4 years ago

The spam is for everyone and quite unnecessary. However, to each his own. I should have read this post before posting my latest post. I did post on hive first fearing the same. I am going to post on both chains. Because I don't know which community is with which blockchain. Once I have clarity I'll choose what to do.. Thanks for this post. Was extremely necessary

Posted using Partiko Android

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xpilar (82) · 4 years ago

Hi @crypto.piotr

It makes good sense in what you write
I intend to do the same, support my followers on both platforms

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gandhibaba (72) · 4 years ago

Thanks for this detailed info. Cheers!

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fucho80 (71) · 4 years ago

Ok, friend message received correctly. Have a happy day and may all this storm stabilize soon to see what direction this takes.

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carlos84 (72) · 4 years ago

Greetings @coach.piotr. I think it's a very good decision for the moment to support users in both platforms (hive and steem). And when I say for the moment it is because we have to give time to all these events that are very recent and all are very scrambled.

When the waters settle perhaps you will see better the way and that is what is more convenient, from my side what worries me more is that I have not been able to make the necessary adjustments to rearrange my content to share it in project-hope, that is why I have been a little absent.

Another point is that even though you are going to accept the same content in both platforms, in particular to not generate conflict and benefit more to the project-hope community when I publish in both platforms I will do it with different contents and thus help not to generate conflicts and in the same way I am aware that I will give more value to project-hope. Greetings friend and thank you for keeping us informed of your great ideas and the direction the project will take.

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juanmolina (68) · 4 years ago

It is very common among active bloggers to post their work on many platforms.
For example, I know famous bloggers who post on Medium, Reddit, Steemit, and Publish0x. This is not a problem, nor is it considered plagiarism. It is always prudent to make the reference, that the article was originally published on one of the platforms and place the link.

But... We will not be able to do this if we publish on Steemit and Hive.

It is not recommended to make any publication on Steemit that contains links to Hive. We must be very careful with this.

Steemit's Terms of Service are being modified and there are clauses that specify this type of actions as "crimes" that will be punished with suspension of accounts.

Thank you for these recommendations and explanations. Once again you demonstrate the great commitment that you have with the Project and with all of us. You are "Coach Piotr" for a reason.

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henry-9ja (61) · 4 years ago

This okay by me no issue

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focusnow (74) · 4 years ago

You are doing the leadership job quite nicely @coach.piotr. When changes like this Hive happen, questions and challenges arise that need to be addressed promptly.

I think everyone would have to figure out on which chain they want to be mostly active.

Sure. Everyone has the right to decide where they want to build their presence. However, it is so loving that you and projecthope have promised to support articles on both chains. Thats a fine way to allow people freedom to decide what they want to do, afterall we are yearn for true decentralization. Keep up the good work!!!

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machnbirdsparo (65) · 4 years ago

Precisely the stuff I wanted to know. Superb Flight Plan Peter.

Also, I feel pretty good about the HIVE fork. It adds another exclamation mark to what BLOCKCHAIN tech means. Large corporations like IBM and Amazon, as well as governments will begin to realize that databases, ledgers, and owners of information are forever changed.

Godspeed and stay well

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teach-me (57) · 4 years ago

Actually is good to make posts on one of the chain HIVE/STEEM. If compared with the use of both lines.

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kebieri123 (47) · 4 years ago

This answers all my thoughts so far. Its well marshalled and detailed. Thank you

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haikubot (54) · 4 years ago

This answers all my
Thoughts so far. Its well marshalled
And detailed. Thank you

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crypto.piotr (70) · 4 years ago

I forgot to cc: @papa-mensa

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bala41288 (70) · 4 years ago

I'm not sure if you are right about Plagiarism. I think posting it on both the chain is called "Cross posting" and not plagiarism. And by the way, I'm going to be posting my own content under my profile in multiple places. Not just Steem or Hive it can even be my own blog or Medium or whaleshares etc.

This cross-posting has been there for a while and I don't think even google considers it as Plagiarism because wherever I post, it is still my content. If I post your content on a blogging platform, then I'm sure it is plagiarism.

Thanks for your support on both the chains.

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alokkumar121 (76) · 4 years ago

Hi Piotr,

Thanks for sharing this post and all the questions are answered this. Posting on both the chains needs to be done carefully else it would get the attention of users who just look around to downvote.

If I publish any post about hive then will not post in steem however other that this I will share first on hive then another with % to ph-fund of course.

Thanks

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sumit1998 (66) · 4 years ago

Project.hope is doing there job regardless what is going on the chain and that is good for normal content creators.thanks for sharing,

Thoughts about telegram
As you talked about telegram I would like to advise you why not to create a new channel for hive where we can share links of only hive and the existing channel will support only Steemit in that way the other people on channel can give a comment on both chain if they want.

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tomlee (66) · 4 years ago

I prefer posting on hive first to avoid unnnecessary attention as you have rightly stated!

Apologies for being a little inactive of late!

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Project.hope: new HIVE chain / old steem chainsteemCreated with Sketch.

INTRODUCTION

- What do you think about posting on both chains

- would you recommend to post on steem or hive first?

- should I engage on both chains?

- should I share links to both of my posts via project.hope TELEGRAM channel? Or just one?

- what about my top3 reviews

Project.hope: new HIVE chain / old steem chain