RE: 🌆 The Bright Lights of London

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🌆 The Bright Lights of London

in hive-185836 •  3 years ago 

It doesn't really bother me. When we voted to leave, I was a bit disappointed but having seen the way that the EU has behaved since, with other countries, I'm quite pleased that we did. Some of their laws are simply ridiculous and for the UK to be considered equal to France, Germany, Spain, Poland, etc. where we all have different cultural needs doesn't really make sense to me.

I didn't vote to leave but I wouldn't want us to return.

What's your view on it?

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There are advantages and disadvantages in the European Union. The fact that there are no borders and economic cooperation is good. But this structure is very inert, it is not able to respond to serious challenges. Especially for security calls. This is confirmed by the situation on the border between Poland and Belarus. I think Poland will be left alone with the problem. All other EU countries will be "deeply concerned" and will impose sanctions that will not harm anyone.

I would like Europe to be united. But there is no unity there. There is a lot of politics in the European Union, one decision is discussed for months, and sometimes it is necessary to act immediately.

That is why I think it is good for Britain that it has left the European Union. The European Union has definitely gotten worse as a result.

Would I like Britain to be in the European Union. Probably would like to.

I share your view. The EU won't impose sanctions upon Belarus because of the flow of Gas through Belarus into the EU. Further increasing the tensions between Poland and the EU which are far worse than they've ever been between the UK and EU.

I'll miss the free movement. Prices will probably go up for us. We'll have to listen to the constant politics in the news when a fishing boat isn't allowed to go where it used to be allowed.

The EU is politics at its worse. We have enough bad British politicians, we don't need even more that don't understand our Country, meddling in our affairs.

It also doesn't help when EU members say "we need to make an example of the UK so that other countries don't leave". I think that the UK leaving is the beginning of the end for the EU.

When my mum voted for the UK to join the EU, they were voting for us to join a free trade community. Not a political behemoth that would begin to dictate our laws.

When the war with Russia began, the European Union was and remains "deeply concerned." Although the EU could have taken tougher action. And I'm not talking about military aid at all. I understand that no one will send their citizens to another's war. I'm talking about the economic levers of influence. The EU's inaction has freed Russia. And now the EU has a crisis at the border. The European Union will continue to be concerned, so in time Russia will ruin it.

I think that the UK leaving is the beginning of the end for the EU.

I completely agree. He is doomed to fall apart even without outside help.

Imagine Portugal and Poland. Georgically they are very far away. Does the average Portuguese worry about Poland's problems on the bottom?

Will NATO help Poland? I do not think so. NATO was created not to fight.

I was under the impression that Russia was under more sanctions than every country other than North Korea - it's clear from what you say that they're ineffective.

I don't know much about Russia or the politics in the region - if I were to believe the British media, I would probably hate every Russian on this platform but propaganda is used relentlessly so that if/when a decision is made, it's supported by the masses. I always find it interesting that the countries that are disliked by the media, are the ones always accused of hacking. Even North Korea - who are all supposed to be too poor to buy a computer.

I don't understand the need for war. The need to invade another country because it has oil. It just fuels more hatred between warring countries that will never end. But so much in this world saddens me - I simply don't understand it. It's not just the EU that's falling apart, it's the entire global stability as demonstrated by the millions of people trying to escape whatever situation they're currently living in.

I would probably hate every Russian

What I learned during the war years is that the official policy of the state and the people who live in that state are different things. There are people who do not support this policy, most are indifferent to politics in general. That is why we have no hatred for Russians. But this war left a deep wound.

I almost never talk about politics. People are much friendlier until they discuss politics or religion.

I don't understand the need for war

Me to. I do not understand at all.

I almost never talk about politics. People are much friendlier until they discuss politics or religion.

Ha ha. This is so true. It's also the reason that I deleted my Facebook account. We had Brexit which some people felt so strongly about, that they would insult everybody who had the opposite opinion. The lies and pointless arguments that were had, none of which would change anything - fuelled by a blood-thirsty media, desperate for viewers at any cost.

Then we had Covid - which propagated its own lies and misinformation - everybody suddenly becoming a medical expert with their own advice. "it's the government trying to control you", "Rub your face in a dog's anus for 10 minutes per day and you'll become immune", etc.

On a talk show this morning, they had somebody arguing that the vaccination was more dangerous than remaining unvaccinated. I turned it off.

And platforms like Steemit allowing this type of misinformation to be spread. Speaking of which, (I'm going off-topic somewhat,) I read this the other day - https://www.dailydot.com/debug/qanon-steemit/ - Steemit being blamed for the popularity of QAnon and all of its crackpot conspiracy theories.

It feels like you're passionate about the media.

I stopped watching the news on TV 5 years ago. Now I learn everything exclusively in text format and only from the media I trust.

"Rub your face in a dog's anus for 10 minutes per day and you'll become immune"

We also have such "experts". One of them works with me in the office. He is the only one who has not been vaccinated and believes that we all have already changed DNA.

Steemit being blamed for the popularity of QAnon and all of its crackpot conspiracy theories.

What prevents me from writing on Steemit that there is a race of aliens among us, and then persistently proving it. Freedom is good, but there must be a framework. As with plagiarism, someone should be interested in verifying the information.

It is possible that Steemit is covered by other misinformation.

It feels like you're passionate about the media.

It's all just so angry. In a bid to get viewers, they need to sensationalise everything to the point at which something mundane becomes a headline story. Or headlines like "Why I spend 10 minutes every day rubbing my face in a dog's anus". I'd rather live in ignorance.

We also have such "experts". One of them works with me in the office. He is the only one who has not been vaccinated and believes that we all have already changed DNA.

It'll be a sad day when somebody close to him dies because he persuaded them not to get vaccinated. Sadly, there are many people like this about who know better than the scientists. Or who don't trust the scientists.

It is possible that Steemit is covered by other misinformation.

There's enough of it - people giving Covid advice to people in poorer countries who can't get vaccinated. Ridiculous things like eating cocoa powder and shit like that helping to build immunity. There are academic papers suggesting the Vitamin D helps your immune system but not significant enough evidence for it to be proven. Now I'm pretending to be an expert when I'm not.

The debate that many have on platforms such as this is that they're supposed to be "decentralised" and the "freedom of speech" argument, irrespective of what that speech entails.