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Is @scipio The Sun That The Oracle Predicted A Year Ago?
6 years ago by stellabelle (75)
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I watched the video, and my conclusion is that @mynameiscomic is very cute.
While the Oracle really needs to curb her on-camera smoking (sets a bad example to @mynameiscomic), it seems she correctly foretold the coming of @scipio, so is there any chance you can ask her what the price of Bitcoin will be in December?
Thanks. And give my regards to @mynameiscomic. :)
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I asked and she said $10K
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Hurray, I will sell my collection of David Hasselhoff memorabilia and invest immediately. Joking, I would never sell my David Hasselhoff memorabilia!
That said, thanks for writing that post about how to start on Steem. I'm talking about the old one, that they bundle with the FAQ, that recommends getting to know people by commenting, rather than jumping in blindly, making your posts, and naively assuming people will find you.
I have had a lot of fun following your advice, so much fun that I haven't even made a post yet.
Actually, sometimes I think the pressure put on people to post is misplaced. If people want to post, they will, of their own volition. But if someone likes reading other people's posts, that's a good thing, because it shows that people are writing stuff worth reading.
When I watch the telly in the evening, noone ever jumps out of the screen and asks me when I'm going to make my first tv program. But here, so many people are like "post post post!" LOL.
Now to wind down, I'll watch episode 807 of "Knight Rider," and play the album "David Hasselhoff Sings America" as I drop off to sleep. :)
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This was an incredibly thoughtful comment and worthy of a post! Lol. Thanks for that feedback on my article as I did not even know it’s used in the bundle! Interesting......
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Thanks for watching
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Hopium!
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You’re here.
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This comment was posted to another post, by lextenebris 11 days ago:
"I feel like I owe it to you to actually have a brief discussion about UA and all its works, but it will be brief since I've already taken the drugs which will ease me into a dreamless sleep and because I've written so much on the subject over the last week or so in Replies as it is.
So, the summary: UA as a mechanism is a joke, Steem-UA is a pyramid scam effectively levering those delegations to be laundered by the process of vote dispersion, and that's it. UA is an ordinal ranking based on follow edges which, once all is said and done, has some filtering with negligible observable effect aimed at removing obvious bot groups and minimizing the impact from users typically referred to as "lower value." What it actually does is reduce the active user list to that of those who have engaged in a follow operation or a delegation to Steem-UA, which looks a lot like the ordinal rankings of accounts on the system via SP with some very lightweight changes based on relatively clear and observable traits.
That makes you a just a restatement of SP, for the most part, with some chunks cut out, and Steem-UA just the latest bid bot to come along.
Because the system is essentially seeded with witnesses being the most trusted entities in the system and trust moving out via the factors of who those witnesses follow – your ranking, your qualifying value in UA isn't dependent on anything you've written or have been involved in saying, necessarily. It is purely and simply taking your following/followed behaviors as proxies for the quality of your writing and going from there.
I've been dealing with @scipio for six months or so on the underlying architecture for UA, pointing out where programmatically it is unable to match the promises that were established as the base measure for the thing, and likewise being increasingly creeped out by this Steem-UA project which is being run as a black box, not coming forward with the very clear proof that claims have been made about UA achieving (easy mechanical recognition of who the spammers are on the steem blockchain as well as the vote selling bots), but instead rolling straight out with a vote buying bot of the most transparent sort.
And all the while, all of the focus is on follows – an account-level operation – and never a word about actual content and how it should matter, because it doesn't.
I have a longer, more detailed, more math-forward version of this discussion that I have been debating posting on Steemit, but the time may have come.
Regardless, congratulations on identifying a pyramid scheme before you got too far sucked in. This is a useful skill to have."
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Nice contributions you got there. I read all through and was informed and motivated. @surfyogi
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Speaking of which, I’m considering getting bidbots on this post for more exposure because I feel that it’s my best post of the last six months
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Robots should not be allowed ...
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Good bots should be ok but idiots creating stupid bots should be exterminated
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Which ones are the Good Bots ?
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Cheetah sadkitten all the steemcleaners ones
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Ok.. that is good to know. I thought they were all evil
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No many are good. It’s the people behind the bots that make or break them
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For the timebeing i can say yes....he brought a sudden uproar on calm looking steemit with UA.
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Im planning to include this to SteemPlus as soon as an API is released.
Can t wait to see something else than chbartist 's crap on the said Organic Trending Page.
I m just worried that with a lot of users following them, the bid bots might have a high UA score.
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The level of disgust and repulsion in me concerning the failed trending page could fill several novels. I will still argue that new front ends are band-aids and what’s needed is an entire overhaul of the code, so that real engagement becomes the desired metric and the one which is more lucrative than anything else.
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The current trending page is not a real trending one. If we are honest we would all agree that it is indeed the PROMOTED PAGE, the trending page is comprised of the posts that are upvoted by Steem-ua
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So SteemPlus would use the data from API of Steem UA to create a real organic trending page? Please explain further thanks
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Yes, that is something we have in mind and after talking with scipio, it seems likely to come out in the future. That would be a costly routine to run on their end, so the more support they get, the earlier this will come out, I bet!
When it does, I could easily add a new tab to Steemit through SteemPlus, that shows the real organic trending page.
I don t disagree that doing it via our extension is a band-aid, but hey if you want it directly on Steemit, don t hold your breath ;)
Still, there are two possible problems with this approach:
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I don’t use Steemit.com much these days as I’m happy with Partiko...
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Maybe but most users use and will keep using Steemit. For lots, STEEM = Steemit.
So for these change to be effective, SteemPlus won t be enough, Partiko implementing it won t be enough either, but it sets a trend among the Apps and finally reaches Steemit, we will have done a good job!
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I actually think that within one year Steemit.com will no longer be the dominant platform. I’d like to bet on this..
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Good points. Jerry was a big content producer though so I think that’s why his number is so high
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I don't know! But I know @scipio himself could be a oracle!
In my worldcup contest he predicted all the winners for the last 16!
(https://steemit.com/worldcup/@futurethinker/announcing-the-oracle-of-the-world-cup-2018)
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Really??? Yeah he might be a sun.
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Banana program week 3 and 4 are waiting for you, to be verified.
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I already upvoted and advised on week 3
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Yes, you upvoted for week 4, but my week # 3 pending. I have corrected all shortfalls as you advised, so please please check that one, if right please upvote.
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Hope you will not disappoint me, rather encourage to participate with more energy.
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How is my banana week 4 entry, I didn't get verification whether it was entertained by or not. Pl check it and reply
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@scipio should develop the www.scipioversionofsteemit.com and we all move there! go go go! XD
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Maybe the influence of scipio changes the Steem blockchain as a whole
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wow! That would be huge! let's hope for the best :D Scip for presidente!!!
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Yeah
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These are great ideas. Much better than the existing
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Hahahahaha and these are my old ideas generated over a year ago.... same problem exists now except it’s caused by bid bots not the Steem Guild. Let’s hope that bidbots are just a phase that dies much like all the other band-aid attempts before it. We didn’t have bidbots before so it’s not actually necessary.... real commerce would replace it.
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Agreed... the bots are ruining Steemit and should be destroyed.
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Good ideas.
Hot - Could be posts that attract views and comments from the highest number of unique accounts. It is basically viral if everyone around the world is viewing it, right?
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To the question in your title, my Magic 8-Ball says:
Hi! I'm a bot, and this answer was posted automatically. Check this post out for more information.
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Bang on again ball, how do you do it?!
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It's amazing how often this thing is right.
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Hahahahaha it’s hilarious!!!o
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Hahahahaha Even bots know it! This was the most hilarious bot answer!!!!
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What kind of metrics would you consider for determining what articles should be included in an "organic" trending list?
There are various ways to calculate things, as a trending list should generally refer to "recent" posts, it should already be possible to come up with something that is much better than what it is now without immediately requiring the input of UA calculations or needing to try and process the entire blockchain.
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Social engagement
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Or maybe Hot categories...
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Hi @stellabelle!
Your post was upvoted by @steem-ua, new Steem dApp, using UserAuthority for algorithmic post curation!
Your UA account score is currently 7.133 which ranks you at #74 across all Steem accounts.
Your rank has dropped 1 places in the last three days (old rank 73).
In our last Algorithmic Curation Round, consisting of 450 contributions, your post is ranked at #7.
Evaluation of your UA score:
Feel free to join our @steem-ua Discord server
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I think the new tab is OK since it doesn't discriminate at all. It just shows everything.
Your suggestion of the Organic tab is excellent, I'm not so sure about the Whale tab though, but maybe as there would be other kind of tabs too.
Now you lost me. Unless it means that one of the idiots boosting posts would be me, then it's OK.
Oh, it's BIDBOTS. Now it makes sense. My morning has barely began and this happens. Although I could say that it's Friday and maybe I should just stop commenting and start drinking.
Maybe it would be a good idea to build a new Steem Guild, but with the kind of upvoting algorithm that would exclude the Guilders from the Steem Guild upvoted list when they are included in the Guild. And the kind of code that would alert Steemians and Guilders if any of the Guilders upvote themselves or the Guilders over certain amount per day. And the Guilding shouldn't be a permanent job. Only for few weeks or few months at tops. And there should be enough people in it.
But I have no idea how the Steem Guild worked then, only the general idea about it as I just heard it for the first time in this post.
Anyways, good ideas!
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UA seems like a good thing. @steem-ua not so much.
I agree very strongly with your points.
Thanks!
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SOC (SMTs, Oracles, and Communities) if they ever materialize, will enable communities to eliminate stake-weighting, and institute 1a1v, which will make an organic trending page for those communities possible.
I greatly look forward to SOC because of this. I am confident that most folks would prefer a fair reckoning of their content as based on the response of actual people, rather than bots, stake, or automated mechanisms of any stripe or kind.
Thanks for a great stance on THE topic of existential import to Steemit!
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Yes I’m very interested in communities also.... I think it can solve a lot of these issues
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SMTs before communities seems like a dumb move tho
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I believe that SMTs, Oracles, and Communities together concatenate into a complete paradigm shift. That's why I use the term SOC, as to do so they need to all work together.
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Then, if it's in order of importance, maybe you'd want to swap SOC by COS instead. };)
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ummm..where did you find the flip phones ?
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In the closet of old useless tech
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Just vlogged on UA and its potential, but didn't mention the Trending page.
Potentially, is my short answer :)
People like yourself, delegating way over the requirements to receive 7 votes a week, are going to be essential in the success of UA. (Thanks!)
Will Steemit inc get involved once the coding dies down and it stabilizes to a point where most are happy? I hope so.
Invest in UA everyone!!
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Let’s just go back to the way things ran before and take matters into our own hands. A new dApp that features the organic trending page would be in HIGH DEMAND
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Just to play devils advocate, it could be that some are happy with these huge looking post payouts in the shop window. New users will not be aware the post has been paid for 😕
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C’mon! Investors are not stupid! You don’t see Peter Thiel knocking on Steem’s door! Smart money is not here...
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“Once the coding dies down “.... what do you mean?
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They are still working on the algorithms, tightening things up and improving. I expect more of this to happen for a little while yet.
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My tongue looks exactly like the in the picture!
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Oow yeah!
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Hahahahaha
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