Ok, so, this doesn't have a direct story attached to it. It's just good advice. Here's the thing. Did your mom ever tell you something to the effect of "Watch what you say! You can't take words back?" It's an important thought. The next level shit of that is watch what you type because you can't take words back on a highly distributed blockchain and potentially for all time history will record you as a shit talkin' a-hole. My advice... skip the shit talk.
Steemit rewards being a good neighbor
There's this thing called reputation. It's the number next to your name. Mine is 70 (almost 71). It means that I've gotten a lot of post rewards without catching many flags. It means a lot of people have upvoted my stuff, and it's a sign that this community generally doesn't think I'm an asshole. It also means I'm a trusted person on the platform. It also means I have a lot to lose if I behave badly.
The curation curve does some weird things. When you comment you get rewards. If you comment fairly early on a post and others (particularly whales) pile on after you the amount that you earn through curation actually goes up. Whales are less likely to invest their votes into posts on people that have low reputations because they are less likely to see the return on their curation rewards go up. So, without thinking about social consequences or quality of posts or things of that nature whales prefer to upvote high rep accounts. So, if you're looking to grow you want your rep as high as possible.
What ruins a good rep score?
Did you guess it? Shit talking! Ever wonder why Steemit isn't filled with the same kind of racist, ignorant, obnoxious stream of shit that you find on most social media? It's because flagging exists and people can cause you financial damage if you're talking shit about them or acting like a total asshole. So, here's some advice (and this goes for on Discord too because Discord saves your chats forever, though it is easier to erase), don't run around talking shit on the block.
Does that mean I can't say anything negative?
Guys, this is Do no harm, but take no shit land. If someone is acting like an asshole call them out for their behavior but not them as a person. You have every right on this platform to defend yourself not only with words, but down votes too. Here's the thing though. When you're defending you have to be careful not to go on offense.
EX: Someone calls me or MSP a scammer on the block.
First they are already breaking the rule of don't talk shit...
Good response: Hey dude, that's a frustrating position for you to take. The Minnow Support Project is made up of over 600 delegators and run by half a dozen top 30 publicly elected witnesses. We take great care to be transparent in our goals and how this place runs. I think you really ought to double check the information you have because it's completely inaccurate. (it's been a few months thankfully since me or MSP has been called a scam).
Bad response: Look here fucker. You're clearly an ignorant shit. Just look at the fucking block you ass licking moron. Any half brained asshat, even you, can look at the block with publicly available tools and see that roughly 80-90% of the curation goes to 1600 different accounts that manually use the bots (breaking character: 10% stays on minnowsupport because it upvotes it's own posts). So, how bout you go fuck yourself and your mother while you're at it.
Both of those responses get across that me and MSP aren't scams, but the second one is probably gonna catch some flak. One of the most frustrating things I've seen on the platform is that any time I lose my cool and really let an asshole have it others on the block rallly to their defense. It's actually really cool, but at that moments it's infuriating. Anyway, the point here is that if someone is talking shit about you you're free to fire back some responses and share how they are wrong and how you don't consent to what they are saying. If you cross the line and start making personal attacks against them then just get ready for unintended consequences because this platform will strike back.
This post created on mspsteem.com. Its a clone of steemit except run by MSP (thanks @netuoso for hosting it). It also provides back 5% beneficiaries to @minnowsupport. Lastly I personally only really curate off of people that use mspsteem.com and use the tag mspsteem.
He's right. Unless you have a lot of SP and can upvote your own shit and make it visible again.
Or, just get yourself a shill account or twenty and talk shit on those...
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Well, the tips are geared towards a minnow audience. It's a liberty platform. Folks can do as they will, but sometimes there are unintended consequences that may lead to a negative reputation score ;)
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-19 ....i have not seen that before on steemit (I'm new here). Ok, I will follow your advise. Peace ✌ & 💖 love.
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Upvote....setting an example?
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I am really surprised to see - 19. What is the reason behind it@berniesanders
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dont give the trolls any ideas....
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Good advice, our fingers should type slower than our thoughts, and read twice before pushing the post button.
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It costs nothing to be Polite , cheers
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Minnowsupport Project has been helping me and other 5000Steemians from day one
How can that fucker call MSP a Scam?
He is truly am idiot he could have easily seen on the blockchain the truth
Love to MSP and Steemit.com
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Words have incredible power.
Water has memory. A human that touches water leaves his own finger print in the water molecules.
http://www.lifebuzz.com/water-theory/
Words have power - merely by their intention - and thus influence their environment positively or negatively. All to do with frequencies. Most amazing stuff.
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I upvoted because you are right and this post has words that need to be spoken because there is power in words.
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:)
water is amazing.
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Good advice @aggroed... I'll try to keep the trash talk to a minimum lol just teasing. Keep up the good work my friend!
Vote for @aggroed for witness if you haven't yet!
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Great advice! I find myself walking the fine line at times though, but sometimes just can't help myself. I want to stay true and say my mind, but sometimes I'm hesitant just because of possible consequences...
This happened when I took a look at our CTO's last post. I wanted to reply... but didn't. Am I being too chicken?
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Maybe. It depends on what you were going to say. It's ok to state "I don't consent to what you said here." That's on the block, but you're talking about a job where you are typically supposed to tow the company line... jobs don't work like block chains so there you typically just have to put up with whatever shit your boss throws at you.
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I meant Steemit's CTO...
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Oh, then fire away! but just keep the rule in mind tat you can't go on offense or you're the baddie.
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Well, no, I felt too chicken. I was at Steemfest when I saw that post. I showed it to my wife and then she walked up to the guy and gave a short parental advisory, I'm sure the message was clear.
I'm just wondering if I should have had the balls to write it in a comment..
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The worst "shit talkers" I have encountered are bots, and they have whale status and go around "talking shit" about humans.
I GET there is "spam" but when I actually go check the "spammer" USUALLY I find some non-English speaking person TRYING to get votes from the English speakers. That is not really "spam" in my opinion, but the bots just trash these people. The bots had their day with me, too. I cried all night over being accused of "tag spam" by a bot. It was a bullshit accusation, it was rude beyond words, and yet that bot will NEVER face any consequences for shitting on humans.
You have a great point, now someone needs to make the bots live by it... except the bots LIVE to talk shit about people.
Kill the bots. It is the only hope.
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I've written before about the value of reputation. It's taken a lot of effort for me to get to 70 and I'd hate to lose it. Of course anything you do can come back to haunt you, so I'm generally careful. Those who want to disrupt risk getting flagged, even if they have good points. We need a range of views here, but hate speech is likely to be flagged. So far I've seen very little trolling, but steemit is still small. Let's see if it can scale up
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Excellent text @aggroed, can I make a shorter translation of your text with a link to this original?
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sure!
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Thank you @aggroed.
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This post has been resteemed by @minnowsupport courtesy of @globo from the Minnow Support Project ( @minnowsupport ). Join us in Discord.
Upvoting this comment will help support @minnowsupport.
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very fine post
i hope you vote or follow me
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@aggroed Don't hold back say what you think... lol.. glad you were able to get it off your chest .. I appreciate all you do. You have been there for me from day one.. no I am not a member of MS but now am considering it because MS has been supporting me anyway.
I appreciate your warning about the foul language, it did not bother me. Some people post lots of it without warning and I know it is the norm, I am older..lol..
For some reason a while back all my elected witnesses disappeared.. like I never voted...I will vote up again.. I am headed to work for now. BTW you are on that list of witnesses.. you know that you and some others that are there for us little guys, minnows. We appreciate all you do so please don't let others upset you.
You are now receiving the coveted BEE AWARD from me 🐝
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I am glad you did this post, fastest way to lose me as a follower is to slam the platform you are posting on instead of being a community member and working to grow it in the direction with attitude of being positive change!
https://steemit.com/steemit/@daddykirbs/is-steemit-worth-it-are-the-rewards-real
This poster ^^^ @daddykirbs shows the right way to be a positive member of this community.
Thank You again aggroed for posting this.
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The way we talk is presence in the eyes of other people.
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Great tips and advise, I am lucky to have been able to stay calm and shit talking free on here so far, hope to stay that way
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Do you get a notice you've been flagged or is it you just see your score go down?
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You'll see the flag icon fill in and if you click on the list of voters you will see a down vote as a minus sign.
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hello Aggroed- i like steemit due the reduced amount of trolling and shittalking which is as you say due the flagging and rep score - we haven't met but i have followed you for the months i have been here and upvoted some of your posts like this one ,as it improves the community - keep well and rock on my friend -David
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Thanks boss!
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indeed a great post .... thanks for sharing
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Well worth reading @aggroed, upvoted & resteemed.
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agree with you ! thanks for sharing !
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I have not noticed much foul language at all on Steemit. I didn't even think of why, but what you say makes a lot of sense. I'm glad it is the way it is. I get tired of listening to foul mouth people.
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Creo que las cosas que pensamos las tenemos que decir siempre...y dar nuestra opinion siempre con respeto...cuando uno da su opinion y la hace bien, con respeto y sobre todo con fundamentos crea esto que paso en este post...crea debate...y el debate siempre es bueno y escuchar (o leer) otras opiniones hace pensar...y cuando pensas, y si no sos un fanatico, lleva a evaluar cosas y cambiarlas si es necesario...y crear asi una mejor comunidad...lamentablemente incluso en steemit existe el fanatismo y tambien la soberbia de pensar que siempre se tiene razon.
Con respecto al uso de las palabras no creo que existan "las malas palabras" por decirlo de alguna manera, lo que existe son las palabras "mal empleadas" y nadie puede negar que la palabra "mierda" en muchos casos esta muy bien empleada.
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You have now started a tag called
#assholes
I think this is priceless. Steemit is growing so fast.Downvoting a post can decrease pending rewards and make it less visible. Common reasons:
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Just trying to make a difference. Be the change you want to see in the world :)
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best to focus on your own posts
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Thank you for your advices. I did not know about mspsteam.com
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U-F-Rs - #sweet!
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This was a great read. Also I laughed out loud while going through your descriptive analogies regarding what an abusive post is and what is not :D
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Also hashtag too is lit
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Dude, I totally agree this is something that I love Steemit for, most everybody tries to be positive and this is a good thing in the world filled with all these negative things nowadays there's really no room for year and this is why I love it here this is something that can bring out the best in everybody and this is a very good common ground that we can all share as human beings we want to share and positivity and build up one another not tear each other down so I'm all for this and if I ever become a well I'm certainly not going to follow anybody that has low reputation especially because of this sort of talk or things like that,. Be well @aggroed
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This seems to be truth day in my feed! Not a complaint but happy that honesty is winning out.
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I am a brand new user and I found this extremely useful. I really appreciate how straight-forward this post was especially as someone who is still new to exploring Steemit.
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Hey I don't like your spammy articles like this!! haha just kidding. Thanks for the info about the reputation. I also remember reading a while back that if you have a rep score about 65 then your flagged content will remain visible. Is that true?
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Great post, I always say, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything. This rule should apply to posts and comments as well!
I have always found it is far more satisfying to get ones point across without having to resort to foul language.
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I must admit I really like this bit:
Look here fucker. You're clearly an ignorant shit. Just look at the fucking block you ass licking moron. Any half brained asshat, even you, can look at the block with publicly available tools and see that roughly 80-90% of the curation goes to 1600 different accounts that manually use the bots (breaking character: 10% stays on minnowsupport because it upvotes it's own posts). So, how bout you go fuck yourself and your mother while you're at it.
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Thank you for this post! I'm a huge proponent of a communication tool (some call it a way of life, heh) based on a book called Nonviolent Communication (NVC) by Marshall Rosenberg. Anyway, some relevant principles of NVC that I dig the most are: (1) You are responsible for your own feelings and (2) Words only hurt you if you let them. Your example was actually quite close to NVC. NVC takes it even further. Example: "I hear you saying these things about MSP and I'm guessing you see some things happening that you get pissed off by because you value fairness?" See how I'm merely trying to hear/understand their perspective? No defense because there is no wrong. It's their issue so we "keep it on them". They might answer, "Yeah, you guys are total scammers!" But you don't give in to going down to their level. You continue to empathize. "I'm guessing maybe someone you care about got scammed or you heard of some scammy behavior, so you want to let people know about this?" See how you are merely [gently] probing and still not playing their game?
Anyway, I could go on forever. Just wanted to thank you and say hi :-)
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