IFC Finals - Round Three: Aliens and UFOs "Alien Technology Coverup"

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Aliens and UFO's Oh My!


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We've all seen what an alien invasion looks like - Panic ensues! People lose their minds and the world descends into chaos and hysteria! Nothing exemplified this more than Orson Welles "War of the Worlds" broadcast on a Sunday evening in 1938

We have learned now that we cannot regard this planet as being fenced in and a secure abiding place for Man; we can never anticipate the unseen good or evil that may come upon us suddenly out of space. ~ The War of the Worlds by H. G. Wells
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The reality of 'contact' is not a modern theme. Humanity has been describing and leaving traces of their presence around for thousands of years. It is found in the art and literature of ancient civilizations from the Sumerians to the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans as well as Native Americans. These testimonials have been carved into stone and landscapes all over the world.

For example even the Nazca Lines in S. America seem to intersect into some kind of grid across the planet!: Source

And then there are a plethora of paintings that would suggest this was a known occurrence:

Source "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino," painted by Domenico Ghirlandaio in the 15th century.

The view that UFOs/aliens are to be ridiculed or from the imagination is largely a modern state of mind and isolated to western cultures, primarily the U.S. However, many countries and cultures embrace the idea and speak openly about it without experiencing careers and reputations being ruined, shortened lifespan or having the infamous MIB (Men in Black) showing up at their door.


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Imma believer! As are a good percentage (upwards of 60+%) of the greater public. That number is increasing due to the rise in UFO cases that have made headlines over the years and personal experiences/sightings which seem to be ever-increasing. Personally, I don't know anyone that hasn't had some kind of UFO sighting or experience or has a family member that has.

My Personal experiences:

Living in Washington, DC at age 12, we had a gathering of 20 or so parents and kids outside. We were in the process of cleaning up when above our heads a flying saucer appeared! Flying saucer mania was not part of the culture at this time, so it wasn't an instant reaction to this craft hovering above our heads. There was a general sense of stunned, wonderment...no one spoke a word. Then I had to say it, "That's a flying saucer, right?" This seemed to break the silence and we all started commenting and marveling at it. It was so close above our heads that we could actually see it spinning and its metallic sheathe reflecting the sunlight. Not only that, it was also changing colors...blues and then pinks. It was as if it was there communicating with us. "Hello Earthlings!" A couple of the younger kids started calling out colors for it to change to. Interestingly enough, in reflecting on this memory, I do not remember it going away...I just remember it hovering above us for a very long time. There was nothing negative about this experience. It was actually pretty cool! No one panicked, no one was scared.

A more recent experience:



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This video was taken in January, 2014. My kids and I were coming home from some evening event and we saw this strange formation in the sky so we pulled over to watch it. My oldest son wanted to record it so he used my cell phone. I thought he was just taking photos as you can hear me say in the video. Given that the boys were so young, I didn't want them to be scared, so you can also hear me give an explanation that it is probably a procession of planes accompanying the President. ;) My oldest son was definitely not buying that ;) These craft didn't make any sound whatsoever and then proceeded to disappear as they moved closer to us. The cell phone is then mysteriously drained of power.


Between these personal experiences, much research and having friends within the world of UFO investigation, there is absolutely no doubt that we are being visited and that we are not dealing with 'WEATHER BALLOONS!'.

The evidence is overwhelming massive for anyone that is truly curious or for the large percentage of the population that has had their own experience. My intention is not to dredge up the entire ocean of cases (although fascinating), but to draw the reader into a more relevant issue of what this means and what next.....for humanity/this planet/the future.

That said, leaving out the pop-culture of aliens and sci-fi blitz attached to this topic, at the very core are some fundamental and very important questions we need to ask and pay closer attention to.

I do think it is an incredibly important topic due the implications involved. In fact, I may go a little further in saying that a lot of our world's problems (at least in part) stem from this topic. Therefore, I propose the following as the baseline for needed discussion:

What changes could we expect from contact in regard to:

  • Technological advancement
  • Benevolence or malevolent visitors
  • Science, technology, religion, politics, and ecosystems

Given that 'Contact' has occurred and that our government(s) are involved:

  • How has this effected humanity?
  • What is the agenda of these visitors?
  • How many different types of visitors do we have?
  • What is our government/other governments role in covering this up and why?
  • What kind of technologies do these visitors have and how are they being used?
  • Is there any rational oversight or checks and balances in place to prevent abuse of power?

Concerns I have:

  • Who is representing humanity and all life on this planet?
  • Who gets to make the decisions on how this advanced technology is used?
  • Who gets to decide who is friend or foe?
  • Who gets to decide our future based on the implications sited above?

In order to answer this, we need to take a step back in time to where it all began....buckle up!

The Battle of Los Angeles, February 26, 1942

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"The Battle of Los Angeles" (as it was so aptly named) happened before Roswell. In fact there were many other incidents before the Roswell crash. So substantial was the Culver City (LA) event that 1400+ rounds were fired upon the 'object', killing 6 civilians on the ground. This would last approximately an hour. Witnesses were forced to sign non-disclosure documents or risk being fined $10,000 for telling their stories.

According to the LA Times:

"The most controversial war episode that has occurred since Pearl Harbor" - Kyle Palmer (LA Times)

  • Military whistle-blowers would later allege 3 ships were brought down during this battle of which the contents and two surviving beings were taken to Area 51 (Yes, Area 51 existed 1942!).

OFFICIAL STORY - WEATHER BALLOONS
While the Army's Western Defense Command in San Francisco initially attributed the incident to "unidentified planes" over Southern California, the secretary of the Navy said the event was the result of "war nerves" and a false alarm. It wasn't until 1983, more than 40 years later, that the military concluded that the incident was possibly caused by a drifting weather balloon.
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This event would mark the beginning of controlled propaganda to the public. One could postulate that perhaps this was understandable due to the panic after the "War of the Worlds" broadcast.

Yet, if we were being visited that day, I don't think we made a very good impression, do you?! They might even think we are a hostile civilization. Granted, this was 87 days after Pearl Harbor so tensions were high.

Then came the...

Mother Load of UFO Crashes - the very public Roswell crash, June 14, 1947

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This would mark the beginning of deep changes within our government, military and secrecy. Although I do not think, initially, these changes were meant to take the trajectory they would eventually take, they certainly did open the door to the power of the Presidency (and our democracy) to be thwarted and dismantled in the name of 'national security'. Granted, it was a paranoid time - on one hand, we had several instances of 'alien' crashes and visitations and on the other hand we were barely out of World War II. What would you do? It had to be managed, investigated and dealt with.

Description of the event by Roswell, NM government website: Source

THE OFFICIAL STORY - WEATHER BALLOON

According to an FBI FOIA document dated March 22, 1950, written by Guy Hottel (then head of our field office in Washington, D.C.) to Director J. Edgar Hoover - "3 flying saucers were retrieved as well as two alien bodies": Source

“They [the saucers] were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed fliers and test pilots.”

According to Dr. Steven Greer, one craft went down in Socorro, NM which was very intact unlike the other 2.
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July 12 through July 29th, 1952 Washington, D.C. UFO incident

In 1952, to complicate matters more, the UFO 'problem' came knocking on the Government's front door. A blatant show of UFOs, sending the message "We're Here!" Those pesky little flying saucers!


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Truman's comments about 1952 UFO's over Capital

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"Oh yes, we discussed it with every conference that we had with the military. There's always things like that going on...flying saucers and we've had other things, ya know."

[What Truman was probably referring to was the establishment of the military industrial complex and creation of Majestic 12.]

By the time, Dwight D. Eisenhower took office in 1953, he inherited established secret UFO/ET projects, a space and weapons program and a restructured power structure. Having been a WWII military hero, his view on the topic came from that of 'national security' so his actions aligned with keeping this secret and military involvement. What Eisenhower did not anticipate was that keeping this outside of public and congressional scrutiny, was setting a dangerous precedent that would soon set the U.S. and that of the rest of the world on a different course.

It has been reported by many high ranking officials working with Eisenhower, that he met with different alien species and a treaty was formed with one in particular. The treaty allegedly afforded this species with certain liberties in exchange for advanced technology. What a mind-blowing claim! It is also claimed in testimony by these same officials that at the end of Eisenhower's Presidency, he was so frustrated by the lack of information and power he had about 'what was really going on within these deep projects', that he threatened to send in the National Guard to Area 51.

One such high ranking official was:
Colonel Phil Corso Intelligence Officer, member of President Eisenhower's National Security Council; Head of Foreign Technology in Army Research and Development at the Pentagon; In charge of the Roswell Files, the cache of UFO parts and information; National Security specialist staff to U.S. Senators James Eastland and Strom Thurmond;Col Corso also had all the clearances past top clearance including (but not limited to) crypto clearance and satallite; Author of "The Day After Roswell" - Worked under Eisenhower and claims that Eisenhower participated in a treaty with ETs .
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Upon leaving office January 17,1961, Eisenhower made quite an astounding speech that would seem to validate these claims:

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According to Col. Phil Corso's testimony regarding his work with the Pentagon and military, we have been visited and he drops some rather major bombshells about what he experienced and learned from his long career:

Technology recovered from UFO crash sites and ET interactions was referred to as "Applied Engineering":

  1. Fiber optics (Roswell)
  2. Stealth Technology (Some came from ET's)
  3. Computer chips - integrated circuits and transistors
  4. Kevlar
  5. Lasers
  6. Night Vision

Other technologies known:

  1. Antigravity propulsion
  2. Free energy

Of the Corporations that benefited from alien technology and took credit/patents (according to Col Phil Corso and others)

  1. Monsanto
  2. DuPont
  3. Hughes Aircraft/Electronics
  4. Bell Labs
  5. Dow Chemical
  6. Boeing
  7. Northrop
  8. Litton
  9. Optical (Ca)
  10. Lockheed Martin
  11. Bigelow Aerospace

He further states in a Dateline interview: Source

In regard to 'Applied Engineering': "I was ordered to give this information to any industry that wanted it and to encourage them to take credit for it or to take the patents."

And just in the last week, July 2018, the Pentagon released a FOIA request which validates Col. Corso's claims on the advanced technology attained through alien contact: Source

Presidents that have followed, have either been briefed or not briefed on the alien situation. But it is very clear that all Presidents that have followed have very limited, compartmentalized knowledge.

Richard Dolan:

"According to our best estimates, more than half of all U.S. government records are classified. For an archivist seeking to preserve and understand our history, that means most of our history is kept secret from us, think about that for a moment”

Richard Dolan also states that these secret programs are so far removed from our reality, that a 'breakaway civilization' has occurred. The technology is so advanced that it would be a 100 years or more ahead of what we can even imagine.

Other Anomalies associated with this time period to the present

ABDUCTIONS

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This is a comical rendition of the abduction experience, but if you dive into this topic, you'll find it is anything but comical. Prior to the 1950's, there were very few incidents of abductions and those that did take place did not have the negative effects that abductions from the 50's onward displayed. Nor have there been quite the number of abduction cases in other parts of the world (very few in comparision). I find this very odd. By the time, the 1980's rolled around, there were so many cases of abductions (mostly by the Greys as they have become known) that there were a steady stream of movies, documentaries and books in constant circulation. Without explanation of why this was occurring and the general fear of the public, people started creating their own investigative groups to explain the phenomenon.

Two famous cases that would become the starting point for this epidemic were:

  • The Antonio Vilas Boas case (1957)

  • The Betty and Barney Hill case (1961)Source

  • The Travis Walton case (1975)Source

  • Whitley Strieber's Case (1985) Source

This has been such an epidemic that a few insurance companies started seizing on the opportunity to make money!
ALIEN ABDUCTION INSURANCE! Source

However, not all alien abduction cases have been negative in nature, such as the Billy Meier Story.

CATTLE MUTILATIONS

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These incidents started happening in the late 1960's and still happen today. Linda Moulton Howe is the expert investigator on such cases. In quite a few of these cases, witnesses observed UFO's. Source

Final Thoughts

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“A purely psychological explanation is ruled out…the discs show signs of intelligent guidance, by quasi-human pilots…the authorities in possession of important information should not hesitate to enlighten the public as soon and as completely as possible.” ~ Dr. Carl Justav Jung

What would a world look like with these technologies and science being used for good?

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This section is for additional study purposes for those interested. Not required reading for judges ;)

Sources - FOIA Docs, libraries and Testimonials

  • FBI Teletype of 8 July 1947 about Roswell Source
  • Comprehensive library of leaked and FOIA documents: Source
  • Compilation of witness testimony conducted by Dr. Steven Greer's team: Source
  • Bill Sweetman (Journalist) who investigated the overwhelming power and spending of the Pentagon says this:
    "Special Access Programs (SAP). From these we have unacknowledged and waived SAPs. These programs do not exist publicly, but they do indeed exist. They are better known as ‘deep black programs.’ A 1997 US Senate report described them as “so sensitive that they are exempt from standard reporting requirements to the Congress.” Source
  • A short episode from Hangar 1 on what we know of UFO/Alien contact and the advanced technology and reverse engineering that takes place.Source
  • The mysterious 37th Parallel that seems have a lot of paranormal and UFO incidents Source
  • NASA Astronauts Dr. Bryan O'Leary, Edgar Mitchell, Gordon Cooper - speak about their experiences with UFOs/advanced technologies, cover-up. Source
  • John Lear's website is filled with NASA photos and a body of work that is worth diving into Source
  • NSA declassified UFO documents Source
  • Dr. Steven Greer's large body of work on this topic:Source
  • Paul Hellyer recently stirred up global controversy when he testified before a half-dozen former US representatives that aliens exist. As Canada's former Minister of Defense, Hellyer is the first and only cabinet-ranking official from a G8 nation to publicly state a belief in extraterrestrials Source and Source
  • Very Interesting Memo (Aquarius Executive Briefing): Source
  • Black Budget Programs that taxpayers pay for: Source
  • The Ted Loder study: Source
  • FOIA Reading on Disclosure: Source
  • Statistical Chart on current UFO Sightings(interesting that sudden drop has occurred): Source
  • Nazca Lines in S. America seem to intersect into some kind of grid across the planet!: Source

Secret Projects:

  • Project Sign (1947 to 1949) - Created to acquire as much information as possible about UFO. Some of Sign's personnel including director Robert Sneider, favored the extraterrestrial hypothesis as the best explanation for UFO reports.

  • Project Grudge (1948 to 1952) - short-lived project by the U.S. Air Force to investigate unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

  • Project Blue Book (1952 to 1970) - A somewhat 'public' interface of UFO investigation - kind of like a storefront. The deep level investigations were not FOIA material and probably never will be.
    This program was conducted by the United States Air Force with two goals: Source

    • To determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, and
    • To scientifically analyze UFO-related data.
  • Operation Paperclip - After WWII, many of the Nazi scientists were brought to the United States. One of these scientists was Von Braun who worked on the International Space Station and gave us our rocket technology. 1500 other scientists from Von Braun's staff would eventually come to the United States and other countries. They were all considered the best in their fields. Source

  • Project Horizon (1959) - a study to determine the feasibility of constructing a scientific / military base on the Moon. Source

  • Project Aquarius (1966) - is the project which compiled the history of the Alien presence and interaction on Earth and the HOMO SAPIENS. Majestic 12 (MJ-12) covert project. This program only reported actual sightings and contact and to collect all scientific, technological, medical and intelligence from contact with alien life forms. *See Aquarius Briefing Memo [Source}(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1zj8MWiMfS1enhfWWljTXlEa3c/edit)

  • Project Looking Glass - This program dealt with the physics of seeing the effects of an artificially produced gravity wave on time. To see into the future/time travel. Derived from alien technology.

  • Project Red Light - Project to test vehicles and extract as much information as possible from alien craft retrieved.

  • Project Moondust Source

  • Project Gleem (1953) - Ordered by President Eisenhower due to the alien threat to National Security. Was a reporting system for UFO sightings and incidents. This would be replaced by Project Aquarius. Source

  • MJ-12 (1947-)- originally organized by General George C. Marshall in July 1947 to study the Roswell-Magdalena UFO crash recovery and debris. Within 6 months of the Roswell crash on July 2, 1947 and the finding of another crashed UFO at San Augustine Flats near Magdelena, New Mexico on July 3, 1947, a great deal of reorganization of agencies and shuffling of people took place. The main thrust behind the original "Security Lid", and the very reason for its construction, was the analysis and attempted duplication of the technologies of the discs. The activity was headed up by the following groups: Source

    1. The Research and Development Board (R&DB)

    2. Air Force Research and Development (AFRD)

    3. The Office of Naval Research (ONR)

    4. CIA Office of Scientific Intelligence (CIA-OSI)

    5. NSA Office of Scientific Intelligence (NSA-OSI)

  • Project PLATO - is the project responsible for Diplomatic Relations with the Aliens. This project secured a formal treaty with the aliens.

  • Project SIGMA - is the project which first established communications with the Aliens and is responsible for communications.

  • Project GARNET - is the project responsible for control of all information and documents regarding the Alien subjects and accountability of their information and documents.

  • Project POUNCE - project was formed to recover all downed and/or crashed craft and Aliens. This project provided cover stories and operations to mask the true endeavor, whenever necessary. Covers which have been used were crashed experimental aircraft, construction, Mining, etc. This project has been successful and is ongoing today.

  • Project Starlight - research project of the University of California, Santa Barbara to develop a fleet of laser beam-propelled spacecraft and sending them to a star neighboring the Solar System, potentially Alpha Centauri. The project aims to send organisms on board the spacecraft. Source

  • Project Snowbird (1972-?) - To test, fly and recover alien aircraft (USAF,NASA,CIA,MJ12) A COVER for Project REDLIGHT Source

  • Project A119 (1958)- a top-secret plan developed by the United States Air Force. The aim of the project was to detonate a nuclear bomb on the Moon which would help in answering some of the mysteries in planetary astronomy and astrogeology. A young Carl Sagan was part of the team Source

*There are so many that it is impossible to gather them all.  

TOOLS

  • Realtime UFO tracker map by MUFON Source

  • National UFO Reporting Center Source

  • DIY Night Vision Camera for 'seeing' UFO's:Source

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Once again, you know too much. Expect visits shortly.

That's okay, I'll tell them you told me everything ;)

They will never believe you.

@youhavewings you have my vote!

I enjoyed reading through this information! It is very well written and thought provoking! Not going to lie it was definitely a tough decision! Good luck!

Thank you, @charisma777

I know the judges have it hard especially with the finals.

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Great Article - thanks for sharing. I agree 100% that this an incredibly important subject that needs to be brought to peoples attention.
Possible answer to your question about who is representing humanity and all life on this planet? Would guess it's the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs? I also wonder how many people are aware that it's against the law to have contact with ET's? It seems similar to the fact that the US government holds a patent for medical cannabis and at the same time claiming that there are no medical uses for cannabis...

Hey that's interesting, @egodust! I will have to look into that ;)

It's against the law to have contact with ETs? LOL Well, now...... Might be kind of difficult to control that one ;) Yes, I would agree on your comparison - I've read that patent(s) before....a lot of therapies they hold patents on.

Thank you for your comment and additional information. Very much appreciate it.

Brilliant article and caught my attention straight away, well sourced and amusing and your concerns and questions spot on, Mr Trump will protect us all with Space Force X! haha
I rekon there is more fun and games to come before this cat is fully out the bag i feel with a rather large twist in the tail sure to upset humanity! Great read Cheers :)

I thought this statistical chart was interest. What do you make of it? Kind of abrupt change, huh?
https://www.statista.com/chart/8452/ufo-sightings-are-at-record-heights/

And thank you so much @clubfungus - Enjoy your weekend!

Yes very abrupt in the time scale and more than likely alot will be our own military ufo advanced hardware i rekon which will look strange! Somehow i think if the aliens were bad they would have finished us all by now, more likely we one giant social experiment that they dont want let loose amongst the stars just yet! haha Have a top weekend also @youhavewings

I definitely agree with you, @clubfungus. Been around for a very long time. Somehow we keep a balance.

I was wondering with that chart if some of the funds for these projects dried up or are going else where. Just a thought.


This post was shared in the Curation Collective Discord community for curators, and upvoted and resteemed by the @c-squared community account after manual review.

Thank you so much, @c-squared

Wow, this is such a well documented post @youhavewings; I agree with bashadow and am submitting it to curie for you too.

I remember when I was a teenager, and I went to the road out front to check the mailbox only to see what appeared to be the biggest moon I had ever seen filling a part of the sky and nearly touching the ground. It was as if everything went silent while I stood staring at it. I ran back inside to get my sister, was back out in less that 30 seconds, but it was gone :(

Great post as usual :)

Hey @lynncoyle1! That is a pretty cool memory you had. Sounds like something that would happen to me, too....."I swear it was here a minute ago" ;) hehe I guess you were the one it was meant to be seen by!

Thank you always for your supportive words. Curie or not ;)

Have a beautiful weekend with your love

You're welcome :) Unfortunately I'm actually not an official curie member, but we get to "practice" in c-squared Discord. The two I submitted, no one was around all day to look at them, so I don't even have feedback for you...or me for that matter.

Thanks for the kind words; it's been nice not being tied to my laptop so much I must say :)

Actually, what I was trying to say is your comment and Bashadow's was quite enough for me. More personal curie ;) Honestly, I didn't think it would get curied with the extra work involved in checking all the sources ;)

Yes, it's always nice to step away from the computer. Good for you.

I knew what you meant and I really appreciated it @youhavewings ❤️ I never thought about the 'sources' thing though :)

Wow, this is a great post and spot on for the round topic! Good luck for the contest! Amazing work!

Thank you @bengy!

I don't know another way to share this video, but I ran across it this morning and thought of you. I just thought it was an interesting story. Violin story, of course

https://www.facebook.com/secrethistoriesofraretreasures/videos/279987612734686/UzpfSTcyNzc1MjA4NDoxMDE1NTQwNjE4OTQ0MjA4NQ/

Thanks, it was interesting!

Yay! I hoped you would love it. I thought it was a really special story.

Great piece.

Just for grins and giggles, I will present Hawking's point of view with these old "Twilight Zone" video clips:

"To Serve Man"...

And "A Small Talent for War"...

Namaste, JaiChai

That would be conCERNing if it weren't for....

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Let's fire her up and go for spin!

Namaste, JaiChai

Yes, very interesting gift to CERN. And that about sums it up.

Enjoy your weekend, JaiChai

Namaste

I am not determined on the subject. It may be that aliens disembarked our atmosphere and looked at Earth or took humans aboard their ships for the purpose of investigation. This is not an everyday reality and is therefore hard to believe. Nevertheless, I don't think it's impossible, because I can't prove that there are aliens, nor that they don't exist.

I, on the other hand, am a little sceptical about the hopes of us humans and the eternal desire for salvation on earth. What comes from heaven easily seduces one to assume that extraterrestrial energy that can be used without borders would lead to everyone living contentedly and happily and that there is no hunger and misery anymore. This glorification based on the assumption of technical superiority seems as strange to me as the demonization of alien life as evil. I find it very difficult to imagine aliens who are somehow more sensible and kindhearted than we humans and who are willing to share a technology with us. In general, a strangeness in physical and mental form is as unthinkable as if a human being were trying to be an ant - at least for me:)

It is already problematic enough to want to understand people from another culture. Or to leave them alone or to accept that there are differences in humanity.

If there is such a thing as a universal law, it is probably that of the emergence and passing of life. In any form whatsoever. As far as the consciousnesses of earthly and alien life cannot move on one level, I consider every contact rather incautious. I believe that in order to understand people, you have to be human. I wouldn't understand a Chinese if I had a babelfish in my ear that would translate everything into my language. To really understand a Chinese person, I would have to grow out of this culture, take in the social and mental imprint, etc. If you imagine how difficult it is to live with a tribe as a "civilized" person - as a few brave people have done - and not to go mad, despair or give up, then the idea of communicating with aliens is all the more impressive.

One can confidently speak of technical superiority when alien spaceships have made it this far. I believe that human language is closely bound to the body and every form of expression originates from physicality. Mental and verbal language is, so to speak, an extension and abstraction merely an albeit remarkable derivation of the concrete. Without a body of human nature, there would be no human language. The idea of communicating with aliens on a mathematical basis is certainly worth considering. But where is the boundary and where is the connection to a real understanding?

It's a fascinating subject. I love science fiction literature and movies. Human fantasy is boundless, but it ends exactly where it ends. In any case, I find your topics very exciting and worth reading.

Erika! :) Hehe I love your comments!

I am actually the same way. It is good to be skeptical and ask questions. I've actually had a few friends that have had abduction experiences - I think it is much more prevalent here in the States unless I am just out of the loop on this happening in other countries. I mostly hear 'contact' occurs worldwide rather than abduction. Contact experiences seem to be much more tame and informative. Hard to discount entirely when you have people you know that have had these experiences. And I don't think coming out to the public with such stories is a particularly pleasant experience either due to the stigma attached to it. There may even be more people than we realize due to that.

This glorification based on the assumption of technical superiority seems as strange to me as the demonization of alien life as evil. I find it very difficult to imagine aliens who are somehow more sensible and kindhearted than we humans and who are willing to share a technology with us. In general, a strangeness in physical and mental form is as unthinkable as if a human being were trying to be an ant - at least for me:)

I think there are different types of beings of every level of conscious persuasion - some go this path, others go that. Diversity in the Universe, eh? Same with humans. I think there is a responsibility though in sharing with a civilization that is perhaps light years behind in development as a parent wouldn't give a small child matches to play with. I do question the motives for doing this.

I wouldn't understand a Chinese if I had a babelfish in my ear that would translate everything into my language. To really understand a Chinese person, I would have to grow out of this culture, take in the social and mental imprint, etc. If you imagine how difficult it is to live with a tribe as a "civilized" person - as a few brave people have done - and not to go mad, despair or give up, then the idea of communicating with aliens is all the more impressive.

Very introspective! I would agree. However, you also have to take into consideration different ways of communication such as empathy/telepathy. You're a writer...have you ever been sitting there in silence and suddenly have a 'spark of inspiration' hit and suddenly the whole story is dumped in your mind? Or have a dream that teaches you something you didn't know before you had the dream? Or how about sensing danger? There is a lot more to us than verbal language and the means in which we communicate. And of course, I think everything lends itself from the spiritual....even mathematics ;)

It's a fascinating subject. I love science fiction literature and movies. Human fantasy is boundless, but it ends exactly where it ends. In any case, I find your topics very exciting and worth reading.

Thank you and I always enjoy your thoughts and perspectives. This was a topic from the IFC Finals...not something I would typical write about, but something that I find important.

Enjoy your weekend!

Thank you for engaging with me. I know that I can be sceptic and funnily enough I take your position whenever someone contradicts me in my own not proven theories or observations. As we people search for prove and a single experience from one person cannot transport this experience towards another one who lacks it, there is a conflict. Which doesn't have to be a bad thing at all. It leads to further dialogue.

However, you also have to take into consideration different ways of communication such as empathy/telepathy.

Good point. Though I also do not exclude telepathy from being something which is possible I do not necessarily connect it to aliens but to something I would call the "collective mind/memory". And I believe that all living beings are connected to each other in an organic way.

But that is merely one belief as good or as bad as another belief. Empathy though I would say is nothing which comes from outwards but a natural trait of every human as we are sensitive beings.

You're a writer...have you ever been sitting there in silence and suddenly have a 'spark of inspiration' hit and suddenly the whole story is dumped in your mind?

Yes. I attribute that to associations which encounter me as I smelled or heard, read or thought about something which triggers me. It's a relaxed state of mind which allows things to come in instead of being tense and wanting too much to be kissed by the muse.

Or have a dream that teaches you something you didn't know before you had the dream?

sadly: no. Or I have forgotten it or didn't pay attention. In my youth I often had dreams where I was able to fly. I was thinking that maybe that is the collective mind - like memorizing to be a bird :)

Or how about sensing danger? There is a lot more to us than verbal language and the means in which we communicate.

yes. I believe that we have sensors for danger. We must! It's something which protected us when predators were around. I would like to think that we can communicate with animals on another level.

Have a nice Sunday!

Skepticism is healthy and I always welcome it especially coming from someone that is truly interested in gathering information for their own evaluation. Discussion is good. Debunkers with an agenda, not so much.

Though I also do not exclude telepathy from being something which is possible I do not necessarily connect it to aliens but to something I would call the "collective mind/memory". And I believe that all living beings are connected to each other in an organic way.

Yes, that is certainly true - Morphic Resonance and Morphic Fields (interesting study). You might look at telepathy/empathic communication like 'bluetooth' technology - only we're already 'receivers' - living things. I'll leave it at that ;) Oh...and I will add 'remote viewing to this as a possible alternative example I think we use these abilities every day without realizing it. You might have fun studying this topic more.

Empathy though I would say is nothing which comes from outwards but a natural trait of every human as we are sensitive beings.

True, true But it is also an exchange of information. I am very empathic so I put this in a particular box of 'feeling' but it is way more than that - it's actually a very efficient way of absorbing mass amounts of information without writing a novel to convey it. I can't even 'explain' this other than maybe deep/heart felt prayer, sensing danger, a mother's intuition or perhaps having an incredible spiritual experience (which will largely be in this mode of communication).

It's a relaxed state of mind which allows things to come in instead of being tense and wanting too much to be kissed by the muse.

Exactly :) The mind steps aside. Have you ever tried 'inspired writing'? Just clearing your mind and writing down whatever comes to you?

sadly: no. Or I have forgotten it or didn't pay attention. In my youth I often had dreams where I was able to fly. I was thinking that maybe that is the collective mind - like memorizing to be a bird :)

Ah :) Dreams are very important, Erika Don't discount anything in your dreams, they hold special meaning for you to grow - it's kind of like the 'unedited' form of yourself and often times an opportunity to go to the next level of gaining spiritual insight. Depends on the dream. Here is a quick look up of flying dreams. If you do that 'inspired writing' you might find what comes out is similar to 'dream symbology'. It's interesting/revealing. http://www.realmeaningofdreams.com/flying-dreams.html

yes. I believe that we have sensors for danger. We must! It's something which protected us when predators were around. I would like to think that we can communicate with animals on another level.

One of these days I'll share Lady Hawk's story and my dog Bella - I learned a lot from her about this (we were so connected). I had planned on writing it this summer but the IFC contest has put that on hold. I want to spend some time on it because it is very special - and yes - absolutely - animal communication is real. There's a story on youtube that I could watch a million times and never get tired of - it has a happy ending ;) It really addresses this in such a beautiful and thought-provoking way - inspiring!

Enjoy! :)

Thank you so much.

:) I found the video with Ana Breitenbach and "Diabolo" about four or five years ago. It was fascinating to watch and I ever since checked if there is something new from Ana. She was having a speech at Findhorn, an eco-village and talked about her work.

Also, I am a fan of Rupert Sheldrake with whom I stayed in email-contact some years ago to discuss with him his idea of telephone-telepathy experiments because I wanted to develop an app with which one could practice the skill of "knowing who is going to call". Unfortunately we had not the money to pay a programmer. In the beginning of my steemit time I published an article about it and was looking for supporters but I got no response. Here you can read it:

https://steemit.com/technology/@erh.germany/are-you-telepathic-join-in-for-a-science-project-and-resonate-inspired-by-rupert-sheldrake

Nowadays I do not remember my dreams so much, which is sad. The dreams where I could fly were so vivid and I felt alive and so happy. It was total freedom and also fun. I remember flying through a skyscraper town and making fun with pedestrians whose hats I flicked off their heads and one dream flying over a huge jungle ...

But sometimes I think I maybe drawn to this themes because every day life is kind of boring and nothing in particular awaits me.

Have a good day and week. ... oh, ... Can I know your name? Or don't you like to tell it here?

Wow, Erika :) You've been on an interesting journey, so why the doubt? I just love that video so much! I swear I could watch it over and over. And I am familiar with Rupert - very cool that you got to interact with him upclose like that. I was led to his work after I had an experience and Terrence McKenna mentioned the morphogenic field which was something that I was looking for to explain the experience and then I landed on Rupert's work. It's interesting for sure.

My dreams stopped a few years ago, too. I miss them. I don't know the cause. Dreams are important.

I will eventually let out my name, not right now though. Nothing personal - I adore you and happy to always see your comments and engage with you.

I have many characters in my chest. The two strongest forces I would name the "realist" and the "dreamer". Dreaming, in the Buddhist sense, is a state of sleeping and therefore not waking up to reality. Dreaming content, in the sense of C. G. Jung, has the potential to point out to certain subconscious or unconscious processes which can be used for maturation or to getting to know the "self". I believe there is more to living systems than sciences can provide.

I would like to get along well in various realms of thoughts and neither condemn the one nor the other. It's really difficult to build bridges between sciences and spirituality. But it's worth it:) - in the end, it's just a matter of language and the associations.

What I found was, that there is a certain crowd of people who are well known within the realm of spirituality like Watts, Robert Wilson, Timothy Leary, Buckminster Fuller, McKenna and Sheldrake but also Nassim Harramein, Greg Braden, Graham Hankock etc.

I am looking forward for what you will write about next:) - and thank you for also staying open to the sceptic me.

I understand completely :) Healthy to keep a balance.

I think when you get into the quantum sciences, the boundaries become a little more fuzzy. And mathematics for that fact - I've always been intrigued by Georg Cantor's story in trying to solve 'infinity'.

Life's fully of beautiful mysteries.

I may take a little break from writing, Erika....but we'll see how long that lasts. ;) Back to the dreamer for a while.

Much love to you

a lot if info, and id say good luck but im your opponent! 🤣🤣🤣

glad weve all had a good time in this group and its been great getting to know you better!

steem on,
eagle spirit

Yes, I do love researching and finding truth. I'm very grateful to the @ifc and @apolymask for the opportunity to write on such interesting topics with free license.

Good luck to you, @magicalmoonlight and @wholeself-in.

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Man that's a lot. I can't get my head around everything. 😂 Interesting though. I wonder why America keeps getting many alien visitors? Why not China too? Or are we just unaware of it because they all write in Chinese? 😅

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LOL! I don't know! There seems to be a lot here. Mexico, too.

It is a heavy topic.

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This is fantastic! It must have taken forever just to list all those sources.
I am a huge fan/ follower of the subject myself. Started out back in the eighties with a skeptic attitude reading of Gold Of The Gods. (This was not what I was hearing in school) If nothing else that one did open my young mind to possibilities. Later on in the early nighties Strieber came along and skeptic or not it is easier to put an idea into the mind than remove it. Recently I have been following the work of Dark Journalist. He is doing a You Tube series and some extensive research.
I have my own" it was just there" story. I am searching for a video clip from a news interview. If I locate the clip it will be worth doing a post. It was a main stream interview back in the winter. Some guy from the pentagon was on back when the black budget story broke. He definitely said they have in possession "artifacts" that were "not naturally occurring" and "not of human origin"
I don't think we can get more disclosure than that.
I asked my husband just last week did I imagine that? because I cant find a recording of that interview. He said if so then he imagined it too because he heard that one. So yeah it was just there :)

Do you remember who the interviewer was? I know it is very difficult to weed through the amount of information that is on this topic.

If you pop on over to charisma777's post on the IFC, she includes a video with a man named Van Tassel - it's an interview from the 50's(?) and it is very 'candid' - actually blew my mind how candid it was - Highly recommend listening (pretty short video) ;) I also noticed that he (Van Tassel) has relatives working within the government now.

Thank you so much, @headchange for your feedback and comment.

No but I think it was on Fox and I know it was around December of 2017.
I get the feeling he slipped up by saying that. After that it was quickly buried by a lot of reporting on some footage of a flying object.
To me being "in possession of artifacts" is far more telling.
I actually still have charisma777's tab open. Hope to read the rest of the entries today. Thanks will hit the play button on that while I read.

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