RE: What is Stigmergy?

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What is Stigmergy?

in informationwar •  5 years ago  (edited)

Well, it is clear that We have very different views here.  Just so You know...  I am disabled, was denied assistance for 13 years, lost everything, am destitute and homeless, and if it wasn't for friends who let Me crash on Their floors and use Their WIFI's, My work would be dead in the water.

I live with extremely little, but have dreams I would fulfill - which I can't because I cannot afford them.  So I'm just not seeing what I can change, what is unnecessary in My life.  I can say it is a ghastly life and I wouldn't wish it on anyOne, but I guess You think We all should live as I do (minus friends who can help out, because They're in the same boat).

Why can You not see that the psychopaths in control are manufacturing the wars, engineering society, creating a consumer economy, manipulating Us through indoctrination, propaganda, and lies?  That if We changed Our habits, They will accommodate in some fashion?  That They control the necessary things - food, water, shelter, land, and They're working on air.  (Taxing Us for breathing because We exhale CO2, which, though vital for life on Our planet, is making the climate hot - which is more propaganda and lies.)

Why can You not see that They will still control Us as long as We account for Our energy added, which gives Them power?  Irrespective of what We buy, We enrich Them.

They own all the major corporations, including the corporations Most call "Our governments" (yes, irrespective of the country You are in, Your controlmind (government) is a corporation owned by the psychopaths in control), along with the media, entertainment, the legal systems, the police, the "education" (indoctrination), publishing, militaries, technology, research and development, tool production, electronics, pharmaceuticals, medical institutions, chemical companies, textiles, real estate (note that when You buy a house, You are listed on the deed as "tenant," not "owner"), communications, utilities, energy production, food production, water processing, clothing, sundries (toothpaste, hair care, laundry products, soaps, etc.), chain stores of all kinds - and anything else out there I have forgotten.

And You think by merely reducing Our consuming of (what?) will strip Them of power over Us?  I think not.

We need to strip the planet of the tool to widespread power over Others:  money, the accounting for Our energy added as a requirement to survive, let alone fulfill Our potential, follow Our bliss, make Our dreams come true.  Not merely choosing to live in the austerity I am living in.

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I'm destitute myself. I have a dilemma:

  • How come you protect vices (unnecessary stuff that cost money) since you're destitute?

Let's suppose people who control us no longer exist. In this scenario people still create demand for vices because from your perspective:

Unless the "vices" are unEthical there is no "vice" I would say One has to give up.

  • How is this scenario different than our current scenario?

What is the operating principle of evil?
Evil makes us beneficial for evil by hijacking our attention from our initial goal of evolution to unnecessary stuff.
Vices have the role to hijack our attention from what matters.

  • How can we be free of evil as long as people create demand for it?
  • How can we fulfill Our potential as long as people protect vices (stuff that are not even necessities)?

Because this planet belongs to all of Us (and pleasures are not "vices") and They hold in "trust" many millions for each One of Us, having stolen Our wealth centuries ago.  Why do You want People to live with nothing but basic survival stuff?  When this planet of Ours is vastly abundant and could allow every One of Us (and many times over) to live as richly as We might choose?

If We remove money, allowing that abundance to flow to all, scant attention will be paid to the material and a more spiritual society will emerge.  (There will be no status symbol but the betterment One gives when All may have the material stuffs They choose.)  Social currency will be sought - love, appreciation, thanks, adoration, respect, reputation, lauds, fame, affection, bragging rights, Self-satisfaction, all accounted for in Our hearts and minds.

You say:  "Vices have the role to hijack our attention from what matters."  Precisely what is it that "matters?"

And again, "evil" is unEthical behavior choices.  What is "evil" but choosing to do one of these things no One - not a single One of Us - would say was ok to be done to Us:

  1. Do not willfully and without fully informed consent hurt or kill the flesh of anOther

  2. Do not willfully and without fully informed consent take or damage anything that does not belong to You alone

  3. Do not willfully defraud anOther (which can only happen without fully informed consent)

These are the three Principles (Laws) of Ethics.  What is "evil" outside doing these things?  I surely see no One demanding these things...  So what "evil" are We demanding, in Your view?

A more spiritual society will emerge.

  • How can we become more spiritual as long as our attention is on stuff that are not even necessities?

Our attention will not be on stuff when We can have all We want.  Then, the material becomes unimportant.  Would You please answer the questions I asked?  Specifically:

You say:  "Vices have the role to hijack our attention from what matters."  Precisely what is it that "matters?"

And:

What is "evil" outside doing these things?  I surely see no One demanding these things...  So what "evil" are We demanding, in Your view?

Thank You kindly for the answers.

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