U hit the nail on the spot, and as for the person who wrote this post, I can tell u he/she is either a liar or just follows propaganda centerliazed western media. All he or she has done is copy and paste the Quran, taking part of the subject and hiding the other part, the subject is based on terms of war, what they don't want people to know is the part that, say's if they stop fighting u and sign a peace treaty, u should stop fighting them and take them to a safe place where they can not be harmed, and also says God loves the does of good, and so many more.
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Tell us about the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah...
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My friend and brother in humanity I missed you. U know I am not good with words watch this hope it will help ur questions.
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This is a beautifully done video! I learned a lot.
But the reason I was asking about the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah is that it was cited by Yasser Arafat after the Oslo Accords as the reason that Muslims should not be angry with him for signing a peace treaty with Israel.
Arafat cited the fact that, in 628, after signing a 10 year peace treaty with the people of Mecca when Muhammad found himself too weak to conquer them, Muhammad went off and raised a bigger army and returned to conquer Mecca just two years later.
The way he recovered from loss of face with his troops from needing to sue for peace was to quickly come up with a reason why it wasn't a loss, leading to the following two new Qur'an verses:
Qur'an 48:1 "Verily we have granted thee a manifest victory”.
Qur'an 48:18-19 He promised much spoils in the near future: "...and He sent down peace of reassurance on them, and hath rewarded them with a near victory, and much booty that they will capture".
So they followed him, raided caravans, and built up a bigger army to use to break the Treaty two years later.
This established the principle that Muslims should sign peace treaties with non-Muslims if they find themselves in a position of weakness but then are obligated to break it as soon as possible.
Given that this is a principle of Islam established by Muhammad and still used 1400 years later by Arafat to justify his actions to his Muslim critics (who obviously were expected to understand the reference), why should any non-Muslim nation agree to any peace treaty with a Muslim nation?
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As for the Quran? Verses u are referring to I don't no if they are fabricated or not we know the enemy of Islam are plotting and planing to fabricate the Quran I will do my research from trusted sources and get back to u and as far as I am concerned Prophet "MUHAMMAD" P.B.U.H never signed no peace treaty with the pigans of Mecca, during the time he was at Mecca not intell the chased him and his followers out of Mecca soon after his uncle passed away who was his protecter at that time and he did not sign no peace treaty and broken them, as far as I know but I will look into it to, but one thing I know is a revelation was revealed to him by God, informing him if he suspect the non believers and does not believe they will honor peace treaty, he was advised to take the nessery measures including breaking the peace treaty, as we are well aware both the pigans and the Jews of Mecca both broke the peace treaty, so what do u expect, also Prophet "MUHAMMAD" never turned his back no fled from war, that is a clear lie and fabrication.
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I see. Apparently Arafat didn't get the memo prior to his Johannesburg speech following the Oslo accords...
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=711&fld_id=723&doc_id=486
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I know nothing about Arafat and the oslo accord, by the way I try to follow u way back but can not? U muted me from following u lol. Getting tired going bed now we will continue tomorrow, Take brother
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I didn't even know that was possible. I have been able to follow you, no problem.
...I just checked the follower page for the first time - no one has ever been muted by me.
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If u want a length TRUETH about the treaty of hudaybiyyah watch this from the expert.
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This is 1:16 hours long. If you watched it can you summarize the answer to the simple question:
Is it true that Muslims are required to break their treaties as soon as they are able?
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You would understand it better if u listen to it then me writing it, hopeful when u have free time.
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These "peace treaty" means paying jizya, recognizing own dhimmi (subhuman) status and so on. Or, if peaceful Muslims are unable to impose this, any peace treaty with them is only temporary, and must be renewed every 10 years (unless they feel strong enough to subdue the infidels). And, if the Muslims feel strong enough earlier, they even need not keep this 10 year term, they can attack at will, as Muhammad did on Mecca.
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