Uncomfortable truths about Muslims that need discussion!

in islam •  8 years ago  (edited)

♣♣♣ TRIGGER WARNING!!!!!! ♣♣♣

If you are easily triggered or offended mute me and do not read my post!


This is a discussion for the big kids so go play with your dolly's and leave us alone!

If you disagree with anything I say please leave me a comment on what i was wrong about.
Yelling out racist or biggot is not an argument and will be ignored.
Please supply logic, reason and facts not feelings..............
and most of all tyvm for taking the time to read this!!!! 8D

Ok, so now that we have taken care of that..............

I would like to post some facts and hopefully after we could have a conversation in the comments. The more differing opinions we have in the conversation the more constructive it will be. So grab a drink, sit back and prepare to be uncomfortable. 8D Cheers!!!

65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
https://bibliothek.wzb.eu/pdf/2014/vi14-101.pdf
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers.
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers.
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers.
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans.
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans.
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans.
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans.
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/

65%% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/


Religious fundamentalism shows that religious fundamentalism is not a marginal phenomenon among Western European Muslims. Taking together the foreign-born and native-born immigrant generations.
almost 60% agree that Muslims should return to the roots of Islam.
75% think there is only one interpretation of the Quran possible, which is binding for every Muslim, and 65% say that religious rules are more important to them than the laws of the country in which they live.
Consistent fundamentalist attitudes, with agreement to all three statements, are found among 44%, Levels are somewhat lower among the second generation.
Not displayed in the figure, fundamentalist attitudes are slightly less prevalent among Sunni Muslims with a Turkish (45% agreement to all three statements) compared to a Moroccan (50%) background.
Turkish Alevites display much lower levels of fundamentalism (15%).
Additionally, the survey contains information on income, but this variable, as is usual in surveys, has a high non-response.
Preliminary analyses show that it has a significant negative impact on fundamentalism, net of the other socio-economic variables. However, its inclusion does not lead to any significant changes in the coefficients of religious group or country differences.
In view of the missing value problem I have therefor excluded income from the analysis.
https://bibliothek.wzb.eu/pdf/2014/vi14-101.pdf

Did you survive the uncomfortable scariness? :O

I guess my first question is, are the facts presented proof that there is a problem?
and my second is, if it is a problem what can we do to fix it?
I look forward to discussing this more in the comments below.
and thank you again for taking the time to read my post.

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I provided all the links for all the information. is it wrong to copy and paste statistics when you provide links to the source material? O.o thank you for not flagging me.

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their publicly available statistics anyone can post them.

@cheetah is a bot, I guess you already know that? The facts presented above are pretty scary. I haven't gone through the links, I just read the articles. How recent are these facts? It's hard to believe that there exists such big percentage of Muslims who are pretty extreme about Islam and Sharia. I haven't read Quran but I hope that it doesn't tell that killing innocent people in the name of God is right. I think I need to read Quran first to understand what makes them so rigid about their religion. I don't know if I'll find that answer but I think we should see for ourselves what Quran is about. May be the solution to this problem is in there already? I'm from Nepal and I'm not a Muslim but I still believe that an eye for an eye will only leave the whole world blind.

If you want to know more about Islam and the Koran, look at the short abstract here.
https://steemit.com/deutsch/@jenny28/islam-entstehung-und-grundwissen-in-kurzform

I was using copy and paste with google translate. takes a little more but the information is worth it.

Thank you for the link but it's in German and Google Chrome says it can't translate it.

amazing post! Thank you for adding a link to it! 8D

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Yeah he's cool. He is pushing the limits a bit far sometimes. A lot more then usual recently. I think it has to do with his up coming prison time.

the question about how much following the Quran is a huge point imo. the answer you will get depends a lot on how much the Muslim your asking has actually read.

Yeah, that's right.

blasphemy law change from place to place but yeah, talking critical or negatively about Islam is illegal in a lot of places. the more of a Muslim based population the stronger the laws are.
here is Amos Yee, I may not agree with some of the things he supports but most of his stuff I agree with.he is still under 18 and has already spent 55 days in jail and had another long sectence coming up for blaspmoy

here is a vid of him and the type of vids he is known for


he is going back to jail soon I believe.
if he lived in a place where sharia was practiced he would be killed for the second vid. you should check his chanel out if u get a change. there are some good conversations about freedomof speech and laws about it.

hahahaha He is quite funny and brave too. And, he has got some valid points as well in that video. ISIS think they are doing right by following everything in Quran. How much of a Quran does a Muslim have to follow to be a Muslim? That was the most intriguing question in that whole video.

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You got it right, bravo!

tyvm! glad you liked it. 8D