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Isn't that living in the past though, friend? The Political landscape has changed vastly since then. Labour have shifted their thought process slightly and have adopted more socialist values. If you look at their current manifesto they plan to rectify all of this. You can also slant them for bringing in this, but the current government had every opportunity to halt that stuff in its tracks, but they didn't, they continued it and with more vigour.

I think rather than living in a time that's not there anymore we should be wondering why we've now found a magic 1 Billion when times are supposed to be hard to make a deal with people that have crazy sexual beliefs to stay in power.

what we should be doing is stopping money creation from being in private hands. the government should be the only agency that can create money. why do you think crypto currency are gaining so much traction

the problem that we have is that labour still think it's ok to borrow loads of money. I won't get into where this money comes from, but i'm guessing most people on here will know that it comes out of thin air with % attached. But all we are doing is kicking the money can further down the road

I'm not too sure. I mean the new labour manifesto was all about investing in infrastructure, business and growth. They were dropping the old "give money to the poor to keep them quiet" approach and investing in Britain. I liked that if I'm honest. To create wealth amongst the people you need to at first dump a whackload of money into rebuilding.

That's just my opinion of course, what do you think? :)

the problem is they are not new Labour, and also there isn't the money floating about to pay for all the stuff they want to spend money on. that's one of the reasons pfi contracts were started, it basically said spend money now pay later.

I would love to spend money on infrastructure, but where is the money going to come from. It has to come from hire taxes, which i for one can't afford to pay more into the pot. i have my own bills to pay.

This all started because we bailed out the bankers, we should of allowed the banks to fail. Our money was protected anyway by the FCSA. on a slightly different note have you noticed that the fcsa have started advertising on the radio about how our money is protected. is there something they know that we don't.

Wait, the conservatives just found the magic money tree a few days ago didn't they? Pulled a few billion out of nowhere.

Doesn't that prove we actually do have the money to invest?

or that money is a figment of our imagination and it doesn't mean a thing. We go through this life with people telling us liar's........... lol maybe that's quite close to the truth.

Haha. Then by that admission I can just say the same for everything you have said is a load of codswallop, which I doubt it is, I mean you have a good point.

We have to believe in something, surely :)

if i'm brutally honest, I wish the people that know all this stuff would just come out and tell us. to many people to lie to the public for there own ends.

I think that there is a big crash coming, i'm not talking about what happened in 2008 either. I think the big boys and there toys are going to make it look like we are in 1920's again

I have a sneaking suspicion that will be the case too. Alas I'm hoping bitcoin and altcoin will be the recession proof answer