Google’s 2.4 Billion Euro Fine for “Violating” Anti-Trust Laws is Ridiculous for More Than One Reason

in life •  7 years ago  (edited)

If you arent keeping up on the news, it was announced in the last 24 hours that the European Union is going to fine Alphabet, the company that owns Google, 2.4 billion euros for violating what they consider to be anti-trust laws. Basically the reason for doing this is they believe Google violated their laws by essentially promoting their own, or advertiser’s webpages above those of the competition. There is no doubt that Google did this, but the real question is why this is even illegal to being with? I know some of you might disagree with my stance on this, but I believe wholeheartedly that this fine is not only absurd, but a complete overstep of power on the European Union’s part.

I criticize big companies a lot especially when it comes to those from an industry that has a large barrier to entry and gouge the customer for that reason, specifically internet providers, phone providers, ect. However I don’t consider Google to be one of those companies. At the heart of Google’s massive empire is their advertising business which basically is able to connect advertisers with webpages that offer advertising. In addition they allow you to advertise and move up your ranking on their searches. We may use Google for a plethora of different reasons, including for learning, shopping, maps, ect, but let’s be clear, we are choosing to do so because they offer a great and user friendly experience, NOT because they force us to.

When it boils down to it, no matter how many people use Google as an everyday utility, they are and have always been a business and have never misrepresented themselves to be more than that. We use them simply because they work. There are thousands of other alternatives to google, ones that list webpages strictly on the amount of view a site is getting and we avoid these sites because they don’t have the slick ease of use and great search algorithms google has. There is a saying with most sites that are free to use online, “If it is free to use, more often than not, you are the product” and this is no exception in Google’s case. We get to use their user friendly tools and website and in return we are guided most likely to websites they have some sort of advertiser relationship. The European Union says this is a breach of anti-trust laws , but honestly I think there is a much more plausible ulterior motive.

The European Union seeks to enrich businesses inside and operating within their territory and in my opinion they see Google as a mechanism that funnels money elsewhere. Alphabet is an American company and many of their closest relationships are with other website that reside primarily in America, simply because of Silicon Valley and the startup culture in the United States. Those business created in the EU don’t have as much support and investment as those in the United States, which makes it hard for them to compete on an advertiser level. However that being said, I would completely expect this to be the case.

If I run a small supermarket and I want to compete with Walmart’s massive advertising budget, you wouldn’t expect me to get very far. We get the exposure we pay for and this is exactly the case on Google. If you want a completely open and fair listing website search system, use another website, like I said before there are THOUSANDS. A talented programmer could create a Google type search site that lists sites in an Afternoon and almost no startup money. They can’t compete because they offer an inferior user experience. It is almost as if we are fining Google for being too successful.

Google being too successful is the heart of what I think the problem really is for the European Union is. They are shaking down Google, not because they think that the common user is being betrayed, but rather they fear it is essentially taking money directly out of their companies, and to a point, the EU themselves. This 2.4 billion Euro fine itself is an absurd cost as well, amounting to double the largest past anti-trust fine. It almost seems like the want to Google to pull out of the EU, like they did with China, but get the ability of saving face and saying they weren’t censoring the own services their citizens use. We already know the EU has overstepped their bounds with what websites people in their countries can access and I think this is no different. It’s unfortunate and I am interested to see what ultimately ends up happening, if Google pays or if they choose another option. What is your opinion?

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"There is no doubt that Google did this, but the real question is why this is even illegal to being with?"

This was exactly my reaction. I see this like putting a (legal) sign up on your property to advertise your own business. There is no presumption of non-bias. Some of the EU consumer laws are wacky.

It seems to be a point that respects and cares about your thoughts.

Ya I agree, seems like just a shakedown. If Google was putting their own or advertiser sites too high too often, it would create room for someone else to make a more relevant search engine. So this polices itself, and we don't need overlords deciding how they can and can't spit out their list of websites.

Bullshit bullshit and more bullshit :D I don't think google will pay this.

Interesting viewpoint. From my own social circles (which, unpopular though it may be here on steemit, tend towards the left / socialism side), people tend to see this stuff and think: "Good! If Google can put themselves on top, how will others compete?"

In this case though, I think you are right - after all, Google is not a public utility. They are a private company. Why would they not give themselves better ad placement, the same way I'd value my own content for my blog higher than some random guest who wanted a post (unless that guest post was valuable to me?)

You make an interesting observation that this could be more of a macro-level shakedown by the EU to keep Google from pulling money out towards their American headquarters... not a very palatable motivation for a fine. Thanks for the insight.

Just saw this in the news as well, it's a tough call and I haven't researched it enough to have super valid opinion but I tend to lean in the direction you are as well. It seemed a bit strange to me from what I read, I basically understood that the EU is fining google because google uses it's own services. (google uses their own advertising services to advertise themselves favorably) Am I wrong about that? It's confusing. Anyhow like I said I tend to lean towards your thinking on this one, but who knows, maybe there are more sinister/potentially illegal issues that have not been publicly announced yet.

All of this is just ridiculous. And yet there's people supporting EU.

Btw, I resteemed your post. Great job on this.

This is really absurd, I don't understand how they are able to do this.

I actually agree with most of your points here. People when using Google services get great service from many of their services like Google maps, voice, etc. in which the user doesn't directly have to pay Google with money. The payment that Google takes in exchange is gathering data from customers and serving advertisements that in theory best match them. The EU seems to be just penalizing Google for being successful against European firms. The fine here just seems to be an attempt to unfairly level the playing field.

Authoritarians trying to legislate control over the free market entertain me.
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Just think about how many Chocolates Google could've bought if they didn't get fined.. :D

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" I said before there are THOUSANDS. A talented programmer could create a Google type search site that lists sites in an Afternoon" As a programmer, just, no. Google has one of the most complex algorithms in history to do query -> sites

In an afternoon you would get a search engine that sucks so bad not even your dog would want to use it ;)

Now about the fine, I get what you are saying but they did not hide only that, they also hid proton mail a crypted mail service and a few others.

And in europe there is the "unfair advantage" basically if google dominates everything and kills every single competitor right in the egg it's illegal. Hence google got fined.

But more importantly, do you want to live in a world where google and other big companies decide what sites you should look at ? Where you can't find some alternatives and you are forced to give all your private informations to these companies because they bully everyone else into leaving ?

I don't. So whether this fine is legit or not, I'm glad they did this.

Personally, i'm quite mixed about this because it's true that it google were European, it wouldn't be the same. But, the fine is regarding the dominating position of Google. The anti-trust law is here to protect consummers first. Here is an example why. Imagine you have a business that relies heavily on Google advertisement. If i'm Google and i'm alone in this market i can say whithout any concern. Hey tomorrow you'll have to pay the 50% more and you you can only accept even though it sqeezes all your margin.

The real point in my opinion is that, generally, governments are really late when it comes to make laws about future technologies. Just look at the ban of Uber in France. What do you think about this point ?

It is indeed ridiculous for Google to get such a fine. The core of their activities is advertising and marketing and now they get a fine because they are successful. However, I do not believe that it is because they are not European. The EU also gives ridiculous fines to European companies. They employ highly paid stupid officials and politicians who apparently have to finance their own right of existence with ridiculous regulations.

I understand the lawsuit, but I find it weird that the EU asked google to fix it without any speculations on fixing it.

Google doesn't think they are in the wrong, so how are they going to fix an issue without a purpose to aim for.

Its hard to even fathom that much money, let alone being fined that much, yikes!! there is only a few company's that could withstand that high of a fine, google (alphabet) is one of tho'es but that has to sting a bit!

Google is a ultimate group and engineers and they don't go the right way only, google is not gonna pay what i am expecting, it dont care

I completely disagree. Google is a monopoly as well as Microsoft for exemple and should be broken apart otherwise capitalism cannot function correctly. We have done it before with AT&T or Standard Oil, we should do it again. They have far too much power over the consumer who without competition is penalized.

Two types of taxes in the world. The ones they tell you about straight-up, and the ones they hide behind vague laws.

wow!