Daylight Savings 2018: the Continuation of 100 years of Scientific Garbage

in life •  7 years ago 

Who's ready to spring forward?? This weekend marks the 100th year anniversary of this outdated and (in my opinion) ill-conceived tradition that's changed many times since its inception and is a burden to so many of us westerners.

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From the title and intro of my post you can probably guess what my stance is on this practice that we westerners still do even many years after it hasn't really shown savings in energy or much else beneficial for that matter. Sure, I love getting that extra hour in the fall and having an easier time getting up in the morning for a few weeks and going to bed at a reasonable hour, but in the spring time it's the opposite.

Tonight when we skip forward from 2 a.m. to 3 a.m. it'll mean the beginning of a few weeks or a month or who knows how long of me having a hard time going to sleep on time and getting up on time for work. The later sunsets and more daylight in the evening is nice, but I don't think the trouble I have with sleeping enough is worth it.

Proponents of it such as the federal government have always stuck to energy savings and economic impact arguments and the logic goes something like this...

  • Because people won't have to turn as many lights on in the evening due to the sun setting later, we save electricity (Never mind that it doesn't get light outside until an hour later in the morning and lights will inevitably be turned on because of it). I'm always up before the sun on work days so I'm using electricity regardless.
  • People are more likely to go out and do things and buy things in the evening after work if it's light later (which requires some sort of energy consumption such as the burning of fossil fuels to get where people are going and many businesses will stay open an hour later which requires more energy consumption to run anything that relies on electricity)

It's a net zero effect at best as far as energy goes. Is it worth it? I think it's like taking money out of your right pants pocket and putting in the left pocket and proclaiming you've just saved yourself that amount of money as far as energy savings is concerned, which is absolutely absurd.

What they don't say is there are negative effects from it including an increase in traffic accidents (and FATALITIES as a result) the Monday and for the rest of the week after due to all the tired people--tired people like my wife and I who often have enough trouble getting enough sleep during the work week as it is. Fatality stat source

I can sit here all day and poke holes in all the arguments but instead I'm going to stop complaining and start thinking about what might be a better alternative.

I'm not necessarily opposed to shifting the time so that the sun sets later in the evening and rises later in the morning, but can we just pick a time and stay with it year round like the state of Arizona does? Florida is considering implementing a permanent one hour forward shift and I have a feeling this movement is probably going to spread to other states soon.

There's a good bit of info in this article from the Washington post about a permanent forward setting of the clocks by one hour if anyone is interested in checking it out.

One problem is the time relation to the rest of the world that doesn't engage in this practice. Florida's proposal would put it one time zone ahead of the rest of the east coast and eastern part of the United States but at least they'd be on a consistent time year round. If the rest of the country were to do this, it would make things kind of screwy in relation to other regions of the world as time zones would shift out of sync by one hour from other places along the same coordinates of longitude.

Really there's no solution that wouldn't have some kind of negative impact and I suspect that's part of why we still do this crap.

I think maybe rolling the clocks forward 30 minutes permanently to split the difference of the change would be a decent idea, but then again there lies the problem of being out of sync with other parts of the world and time zones not lining up with their respective lines of longitude going across all latitudes.

I don't have the answer, but I'll conclude by saying I'm not happy about springing forward and losing an hour of my weekend. Anyone else with me on this? Or do you enjoy this 100 year old tradition? Maybe if my sleep didn't suffer for it I wouldn't be so opposed to it...but it does, so I am.

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In my native country (Brazil) every year this same discussion occurs. People want the "summer time" to continue, others want it to stop. Today most of the states follow the change of the hours, but not all. You can see the confusion when you cross a state boarder...

Well I guess it's kind of comforting to know that this debate and problem is so widespread. We have states in the US where there are different cities and regions that are on the same line of longtitude but in different, arbitrarily set times.

I doubt this mess will get sorted out any time soon if ever. I just get really sour about it this time of year because I lose sleep. And yeah, confusion is definitely there too on a massive scale in the western hemisphere because of this.

Aside from more traffic accidents there are also a higher incidence of heart attacks on the first Monday of spring ahead change. I'm retired now so I get up at 4:30 am for the four winter months and then at 5:30 am for the 8 months of DST.

Thanks for adding that to the list of negatives! I had forgotten about the increase in heart attacks. People don't react well to some types of change and this is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. It really is causing more problems than it is solutions.

I wish I could get up that early but with my schedule I don't get to bed until kinda late and I have a pretty active lifestyle so I need my sleep and I'm not a nice or productive person if I'm sleep deprived for too long.

Thank you for the reply and upvote! Now that the science behind the circadian rhythm has revealed the detrimental effects of the time change to our general health more and more states are likely to do what Florida has done. One can only hope.

Yes I saw that Florida has gone ahead with their proposal...So now they'll be one time zone ahead of the rest in Eastern Standard time in the winter months and in sync for the rest of the year.

I hope this is the start of something larger because every spring it pisses me off a little bit more to be forced to have my circadian rhythm messed up for however long it takes to adapt. It's gonna have to be the states that do it though because the federal government doesn't really do anything good for the people anymore...if the lobbyists in DC demanded DST be abolished then I'm sure a bill would be drafted, passed and signed quickly. But they have their respective causes and our best interest doesn't seem to be aligned with many of those.

Government has indeed been disappointing for the last couple of decades. We can hope for a 2018 purge. Like it'll ever happen : (

Seems like a waste to do it here in 2018, isn’t it?

It sure does. I'm sitting here looking at my clock that says it's five minutes til noon but my body knows it's really 5 til 11 a.m. Just one hour closer until I have to be at work tomorrow morning and one less hour to do all the menial chores and tasks the go along with everyday life as an adult. That and it will be hard to go to sleep at my "normal" time tonight and harder to wake up tomorrow morning to be on time for work.

It might have made sense for my grandparents to have that extra hour during the day, but here in 2018? It might make sense to ditch it.

I've occassionally wondered about this over the course of my life. Assuming that "smarter people" than me were in control of this issue, I chalked it up to energy usage. Surely, someone, somewhere has good reasons for this perceived "hassle" that we all have to adjust to - right? Maybe that's my mistake. I don't really know. I'm sure there are endless debates and data-points that people on both sides of the argument could cite. Bottom line, I don't really care all that much about the technical arguments of this situation.

For me, the time change seems to "help" my annual rythm in gauging the changing of the seasons. Of course, living in a more "rural" environment, I like the changing of the seasons - the difference in activities that comes with agricultural work: planting, irrigation, spraying weeds, harvest, then "hunkering down for the winter." Having grown up in a large city, where these kinds of changes were not as noticable, it was an adjustment for me. Now that I'm acclimated to things being the way they are, I'm resistant any further changes - which is probably not such a welcome trait - now that I think about it.