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Swamp Party w/ Killary Clinton, Bubba Bill, & Sen Bernie Sanders AKA "This Old Man"

in memeitlol •  7 years ago  (edited)

Robert Byrd changed and made amends. Trump didn't. Obviously you missed the point there.

Good God! You really are going to make me assemble a complete list, aren't you? I'm taking the time to find these, so you better have some damn good excuses as to why your dear leader said and did some of this shit.

1973 - Discrimination charge. Donald and Fred Trump are accused of violating the Fair Housing Act by discriminating against potential minority renters. They insist they are innocent and fight the sweeping charges.
1975 - DOJ settlement. Trump settles with the Department of Justice over housing discrimination charges
1978 - Renewed discrimination charge. The Department of Justice accuses the Trumps of continuing to discriminate in spite of their settlement.
1983 - The New York Times reports that two Trump properties have populations that are 95 percent white. Reports surface of unwritten discrimination policies on Trump properties causing tenants to be disproportionately white.
1989 - After five young men of color — known as The Central Park Five — are arrested for a brutal attack on a jogger, Donald Trump buys full-page newspaper ads stressing law and order and urging return of the the death penalty. He writes that white, black, Hispanic and Asian families have lost a sense of security in their neighborhoods. (The five men, who Trump called “crazed misfits,” were exonerated 13 years later.) Trump continues to insist they were guilty, and to this day he still refuses to apologize for calling for the deaths of five innocent men, and for his role in this blatantly racist miscarriage of justice.
1992 - A judge rules against the Trump Plaza Hotel in New Jersey, concluding the hotel discriminated in removing an African-American dealer from a table at the request of a wealthy player.
1993 - Trump says “They don’t look like Indians to me,” during a Congressional hearing when talking about Native American casino officials. He then goes on to claim that political correctness has given Native American status to some people who don’t “look like Indians.”
You know, I take this kinda shit personally. My Grandmother was a full blood Cherokee. The amount of pigment in my skin, or the fact that I'm not wearing moccasins and turquoise, has nothing to do with who my family is.
1996 - Twenty people from Indiana sue Trump, alleging he did not make good on promises to hire a large number of local minorities for his new casino.
2000 - Trump agrees to apologize and pay a fine for secretly financing sharp ads opposing a Native American gambling proposal. The ads included pictures of syringes and cocaine and asked “Are these the new neighbors we want?”
2011 - At CPAC Trump claims that President Barack Obama’s classmates never saw him at school. Politifact rated this statement “pants on fire.” This was the first of many false statements Trump fabricated to de-legitimize America's first black president. He spent months going on television shows demanding Obama show his birth certificate. He told reporters that President Obama should have never got into Columbia or Harvard. Don't tell me it had nothing to do with race. You know damn well that he would have never tried this shit on a white president.
2013 - Feeling the need to point out John Stewart's Jewishness to his racist followers, Trump tweets that he’s smarter than “Jonathan Leibowitz – I mean Jon Stewart …”
2013 - During the ramp-up to George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin trial, Trump tweets that “the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our cities is committed by blacks and Hispanics.” This seems to come from a New York City report showing blacks and Hispanics were also the majority of crime victims. An FBI report disputes Trump’s claim nationally.
2015 - In midst of violent reaction to the death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Trump tweets that “thugs” are happily and openly destroying the city.
2015 - In the speech announcing his candidacy for president, Trump charges that Mexico is sending rapists and criminals to the U.S.
2015 - African-American youth “have no spirit,” Trump told a Republican luncheon in Baltimore, adding “they’ve just about never done more poorly.”
2015 - Trump's twitter account is loaded with racist shit. It's funny as hell when he tries to delete some of the uglier stuff, after he regrets it later. Terrifying that our president doesn't even understand how the internet works. For example, In a tweet he later attempted to delete, Trump claims that Bush “has to like the Mexican illegals because of his wife.” Columba Bush was born in Mexico and legally immigrated to the United States.
2015 - His Facebook account attracts the truly deplorable, and he openly encourages racist behavior from his Facebook followers. After saying it found use of a racial epithet to describe African-Americans on his Facebook page, the Trump campaign was forced to fire Sam Nunberg. Nunberg later denied that he even wrote those posts.
2015 - After two white men indicated Donald Trump inspired them to beat and urinate on a homeless Hispanic man, Trump initially calls it a “shame” but then goes on to make excuses for them and provide cover and encouragement for this type of behavior when he claims his supporters do these things because they are “passionate.”
2015 - After a black protester chanting “Black Lives Matter” at his Alabama rally was pushed and punched, Trump tweets (and later deletes) false statistics about the percentage of whites killed by blacks. Politifact rated one claim as “pants on fire.”
2015 - In an interview with ABC, Trump says his Muslim ban proposal is no different that President Franklin Roosevelt’s orders regarding Japanese-, German- and Italian-Americans during WWII.
At this point in time, he is pretty much admitting he is a racist, and is openly courting racist voters.
On Facebook, KKK leader David Duke urges his followers to vote for Trump, saying it is “treason to your heritage” to vote for others. Trump later rejects the endorsement, but receives heavy criticism for the amount of time and political pressure he took before doing so.
2016 - Trump tweets photo of him eating a taco salad, tweeting “I love Hispanics” and “Happy #CincoDeMayo.” Honestly, if it weren't for all the other racist crap he has said and done, I may have thought of this as a moronic moment of forgivable and unintentional racism, but when you consider all the awful things he has said about Mexicans, it becomes pretty obvious that he's just trolling here.
2016 - In a San Diego, California speech, Trump criticizes Judge Gonzalo Curiel hours before Curiel’s court announces he has cleared the public release of some controversial Trump University documents. Trump said Curiel “happens to be, we believe, Mexican.” He also states “Mexicans are going to end up loving Donald Trump.”
Speaking with the WSJ and CNN, Trump says Judge Curiel’s Mexican heritage is an absolute conflict in his oversight of the Trump University case and he cannot be fair. On CBS, Trump calls his inference that Curiel is biased because of his race “common sense.”
2016 - In Redding, California, Trump stresses support from African-Americans and points to a black man in the crowd, saying, “Oh look at my African-American over here!”
This is another instance in which Trump could be forgiven for being a racist moron in a relatively harmless way, but when you connect it to everything else on this list, it becomes something much uglier.
2016 - In Richmond, Virginia, Trump says he will expand his campaign theme to include “everyone.” Then, around the 25 minute mark, he argues America is in decline, saying “African-American youth is an example: 59 percent unemployment rate; 59 percent.” Politifact rated the claim “mostly false.”
2016 - Trump tells reporters with him in Scotland that it wouldn’t bother him for a Scottish Muslim to enter the United States. This, after he had pledged in December to ban all Muslims from arriving in the U.S.. Advisers try to walk back the comments and say the ban would focus on countries associated with terrorist groups.
2016 - Trump questions why Gold Star mother and Pakistani-American Ghazala Khan was silent when her husband spoke at the Democratic convention. “Maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say,” Trump suggested. Mrs. Khan later said she did not speak because she was overcome by emotion.
2016 - In an interview with the Washington Post, Trump refuses to answer whether he believes President Obama was born in the United States. The next day, In a 10-word statement at his D.C. hotel, Trump tells a room of supporters and media that “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.” He never apologizes for his years-long continued attack on the legitimacy of America's first black president.
2016 - African-American communities are in “the worst shape ever,” Trump says at a rally in Kenansville, North Carolina. Politifact gives that a “pants on fire” rating.
2016 - While recording a town hall with FOX News’ Sean Hannity, Trump is asked about his solution to black-on-black crime and responds that he supports “stop and frisk,” which allows police to question and temporarily detain anyone. Studies have shown minorities are disproportionately detained in “stop and frisk.”
2017 - Trump begins Black History Month with a White House breakfast. He praises Martin Luther King Jr. and African-Americans in general. He also seemed to speak as if 19th-century abolitionist Frederick Douglass were a living person.
2017 - A white nationalist leader facing charges he assaulted an African-American protester in 2016 defends himself in a court filing by claiming he was acting based on the words of then-candidate Trump. Trump never bothers to renounce the actions of the white nationalist, regardless of the heavy press coverage and public outcry.
2017 - Trump asks “Why was there a Civil War?” in an interview on Sirius/XM, questioning why the Civil War couldn’t have been avoided.
2017 - Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Rep. Cedric Richmond, D-La., writes Trump a letter charging that his administration responded to neither their policy ideas nor seven other letters or documents from the group.
2017 - After a white nationalist attending a rally drove a car into a crowd, killing one protester and injuring many more, Trump condemns “this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides.” He did not mention white supremacists or nationalists specifically.
The next day he read an obviously prepared message from a teleprompter that finally went as far as to condemn Nazis and KKK specifically.
The next day, during an impromptu news conference, Trump again condemns neo-Nazis but also insisted “both sides” deserved blame for violence in Charlottesville and that counter-protesters had acted “very, very violently.” He incorrectly said protesters were “quietly” supporting the Robert E. Lee statue.
2017 - Trump said NFL owners should fire “son of a bitch” players who kneel during the National Anthem to protest police brutality against people of color.
2017 - In the aftermath of two hurricanes, Trump characterizes Puerto Ricans as “wanting everything done for them,” adding that their leaders are “not able to get their workers to help.”
2017 - At an event honoring Navajo World War II veterans, the president mocked Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren for claiming Native American heritage, saying “they call her Pocahontas.”
2017 - Trump retweeted three anti-Muslim tweets from British far-right leader Jayda Fransen, drawing widespread criticism. The White House said Trump was “elevat[ing] the conversation to talk about a real threat.”
2017 - The New York Times reports in an Oval Office meeting in June, Trump said Haitian immigrants “all have AIDS” and Nigerians would never “go back to their huts.”
2018 - At a White House meeting on immigration, Trump asks why the U.S. was admitting people from Haiti and Africa, referring to them as “shithole countries” and suggesting more immigration from places like Norway.
2018 - Trump tells a room full of government officials, “We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in – we’re stopping a lot of them – but we’re taking people out of the country, you wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals.”

This list is by no means complete, but I'm getting tired, and I believe I have made my point. It is worth mentioning that I have only included incidents of racism. I have not listed Trump's many episodes of sexism/misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, his cruel behavior toward the disabled, or his callous attitude towards people in places like Syria and Palestine. These issues are most definitely related, as they dovetail into the Republican agenda of maintaining supremacy of wealthy white straight Christian men, and making oppressed scapegoats of minorities and women.

History is when someone reads this thread a couple decades from now, and with 20/20 hindsight can look back at you the same way we would look back on those who were foolish enough to support men like Richard Nixon and Jefferson Davis.

You can try all you want to deflect your guilt and turn this on me, but I'm not the one taking up ranks with Nazis. I'm not the one making excuses for a POTUS that was endorsed by the KKK.

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Well i had quite a bit more but then my comment was pruned. didnt even know that was possible... Id love to rewrite that but sadly its not happening Hope you at least saw what i posted first.

What i will leave you with though is that You did open my eyes to a few questionable situations, and others that are pretty hard to ignore, but the overwhelming majority of those are either media spins, or freudian slips by the leftist media where they were the only ones talking about race rather than trump. Perfect example are these two

2015 - In midst of violent reaction to the death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Trump tweets that “thugs” are happily and openly destroying the city.

Thug has no racial connotations unless you add those yourself. Ive literally been hanging out at a traphouse full of white thugs for the past couple weeks. Thug literally means violent criminal, not black person as your racist ass seems to think. The people he was referring to were being violent criminals.

2015 - In the speech announcing his candidacy for president, Trump charges that Mexico is sending rapists and criminals to the U.S.

This is again taking his words out of context, Trump explicitly specified mexican gangmembers, which California actually has a huge fucking problem with illegal immigrant gang members getting caught commiting crimes and then running back to mexico where the cartels control damn near everything. I have family in mexico(my uncle married a mexican woman) that i love btw, but I can tell you that I've heard some stories at family gatherings that will confim this. There are literally bail bonds companies that specialize in no collateral immigrant bail bonds because the industry is so booming.

Also Richard Byrd you keep saying he changed but he did not change in according to his actions. 1952 was the year he starting cutting ties with the KKK. Then in 1964 he was the one who filibustered the civil rights act that you claim to helped to create. I keep bringing this up because it shows that he was not honest about his change of heart.

Robert Byrd uses the word "it" at 2:27 to refer to the black Grandson in this story

Sorry but its fucking ridiculous for you to say that this guy who was a KKK leader that actually obstructed civil rights legislation gets a pass, yet Trump has to continuously apologize for things that that his father and he may have done years ago, during a time when sadly they were common place.
Again though you did open my eyes to a few things that I didnt know about Trumps past, but overall His track records does not seem like the racist the media makes him out to be. He seems like someone who was raised during a different era, who may have followed some of the social norms of the times but today I really don't see any examples of overt racism..

Again, Robert Byrd earned a lifetime NAACP score of 82%. They calculate that score based on how you vote on civil rights issues. He was the longest serving Senator in U.S. history, so for him to earn a lifetime score of 82% is pretty fucking impressive.
He was wise enough to see that he should change, and he did so. He showed this country that a man can change himself when he is shown the errors of his ways. I really wish we saw more of that kind of mentality today.
When those five kids were exonerated, by fucking DNA evidence, Trump still refused to admit he was wrong. He refuses to ever admit he was wrong, and very rarely apologizes when it is obvious that he has falsely attacked and slandered people. What's worse, he encourages his followers to do the same. Here's a good example of that.

Notice how McCain responds. That's the way people who aren't racists act in that kind of situation.

When those five kids were exonerated, by fucking DNA evidence, Trump still refused to admit he was wrong.

I really wish you had seen my original reply. That was one of the things that you opened my eyes to

He refuses to ever admit he was wrong, and very rarely apologizes when it is obvious that he has falsely attacked and slandered people.

This is definitely something that we can agree on.

Robert Byrd earned a lifetime NAACP score of 82%. They calculate that score based on how you vote on civil rights issues.

I already know you're going to call me an uncle tom for this but fuck the NAACP, in the past they were legit, but today they promote race bating, and furthering the racial divide more than anything. Still though 82% is impressive, maybe I'm wrong about him. I'll have to look into that. I was trying to find this video that earlier that showed other things that he did that that don't go in line with his appologies but i cant seem to find it. I never actually got a change to fact check all of it and I don't want to jump to the conclusion that youtube deleted it, but they have been doing quite a bit of that lately.

That's the way people who aren't racists act in that kind of situation.

Lol I remember when that question was asked. I will also agree here that he probably should have had his mic cut off right away but only because that looked horrible as a first question. The guy who asked the question though is not 100% incorrect... If I told you that I had been recruited by someone who thought i'd actually go to an event would that change your mind at all.

Regardless though I have 2 things to say here when people say that you cant be racist against Muslims because it's not a race they are being completely accurate. Now can you still be prejudice against them sure, but its not racism. Which IMO the reason people blow up about racism more so than any other kind of prejudice is because race is something determined at birth that cannot be changed, and has no effect on your core values. While religion is something that dictates your core belief set entirely. Nobody on the left seems to have any problem with those who vehemently hate Christians. Only Muslims. Even those who hate Judaism are given a pass as long as they only hate the Jewish religion and not the Jews as a race. Muslims though the left treats totally different, even though many of them openly hate everything about western culture. This does become problematic because not everybody agrees with their religions set of values to the same degree, and so for that reason I believe that we shouldn't jump to conclusions when talking about individual people, but in regards to the religion/culture itself there is no problem with being vehemently opposed to it. This is no different to how Atheists can be vehemently opposed to all forms of religion but can still be best friends with a bunch of Catholics, Jews, Muslims and Protestants.

The problem between the Muslim culture and Western culture comes directly from the fact that the west was formed by Judeo-Christian values that are at complete odds with Muslim values. Nobody has any problem with Muslims coming over here who understand that the cultures are different and still choose to come here and assimilate into our culture. What we don't want really has nothing to do with being Muslim. We don't want people with a core belief set that doesn't agree with ours coming here and violently changing things as they are attempting to do currently in Europe. Theres also another factor at play her as well that very few realize even though it was literally told to us by the horses mouth openly back in the 80s


I may upload the full lecture to my Dlive later today as i've uploaded his first interview #illegallyLOL

There is a popular myth among right-wing conspiracy theorists that liberals have double standards when it comes to Christians and Muslims. Watch Bill Maher or Christopher Hitchens rip into Muslims the way you would expect Rush Limbaugh to, and you may change your mind.
Liberals are more tolerant of other cultures because we go to college and live in cities, where we are exposed to folks different than ourselves. In doing this, we discover our common humanity, and shatter the myth that we are supposed to hate each other. I have friends of many different beliefs, including Muslims. None of them have ever given me reason to believe our cultures are incompatible. It is also worth pointing out that claims of cultural incompatibility were used as an excuse to segregate and oppress black Americans during the reconstruction and Jim Crow years.
The video of the racist islamophobes talking to Trump and McCain about Obama is more about Obama than Islam. If you are wondering if those folks were being racist, just ask yourself if they would have been flinging these ridiculous accusations at a white President. The only reason President Obama had to endure these ignorant personal attacks is because he had brown skin and an unusual name.

Its like your reading the first sentence every time and then replying based solely on that.

...race is something determined at birth that cannot be changed, and has no effect on your core values. While religion is something that dictates your core belief set entirely.

Nobody has any problem with Muslims coming over here who understand that the cultures are different and still choose to come here and assimilate into our culture

What we don't want really has nothing to do with being Muslim. We don't want people with a core belief set that doesn't agree with ours coming here and violently changing things

This does become problematic because not everybody agrees with their religions set of values to the same degree, and so for that reason I believe that we shouldn't jump to conclusions when talking about individual people, but in regards to the religion/culture itself there is no problem with being vehemently opposed to it.

Did you not read any of that? I grew up in a coastal border city in southern california. One of the most diverse cities in the country I have friends of all cultures, races, religion, ethnicities. The difference between those people and the muslim refugees is that the people we know wanted to come here(that or their parents). The refugees don't, they only want to escape conflict zones, so they do not respect our cultural values. Have you not heard about any of the bullshit that is happening in Europe right now, and has been for the past 5 years since they started bringing Muslim refugees over in droves?

If you cant agree with me that a culture based on religion, which is literally defined as, "a particular system of faith and worship". with system being defined as,"a set of principles or procedures according to which something is done; an organized scheme or method". Can potentially be incompatible with another culture then you're seriously lost and there is no use talking anymore.

How can you say with a straight face, that bringing on hundreds of thousands of refugees who believe its totally fine to have sex with a 13 year old is not going to present conflict. A culture where the father has complete say over whether or not that 13 year old can or cannot have sex with adult men. A culture where women are not allowed to drive without their husbands A culture where women are still forced to wear hijab. Sure there are people fighting these things in their countries, but that is all apart of why their countries are war torn. Until we can agree on certain basic principles we are not compatible en mass plain and simple.

on a somewhat related tangent, have you heard about what happened to Tommy Robinson?

Have you heard about what happened to Roseanne Barr? Have you heard that Trump is defending her? Are you surprised that Trump is defending a woman who was just fired for making racist comments? Should you be?

You're literally retarded. What did Roseanne say that is racist? She factually accused Soros of selling out other Jews during WWII.

The only thing that she was wrong about was that he wasn't an SS and was only an Nazi Collaborator.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2018/05/30/unpacking-the-george-soros-was-a-jew-killing-nazi-conspiracy-theory-that-roseanne-barr-spreads/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.afd4ce673a58

Oh wait nvm i totally forgot about the planet of the apes tweet LOL. Shes dumb, and like everyone one else tried to blame her shit on something that doesnt exist. She should have just stuck to, yeah i said some dumb shit but ya'll know I'm not racist. I don't know her history very well so I cant say for sure, but she claims to have a good civil rights track record and I don't think I've ever heard of her being accused of Racist. Id also like to add that I really don't care about insensitive jokes(although hers were a bit far). I grew up in places like making them myself. Its definitely not tactful, or something that i think one should do everyday though

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/30/media/president-trump-roseanne-barr-bob-iger/index.html?iid=EL

As far as Trump goes, its not like he applauded her for those remarks. He defended her because she routinely defends him on twitter.

The fact stands. He defended a woman that just got fired for racist tweets. How many ways does Trump have to act like a racist before you allow yourself to see it? Do I need to do a little research and make a longer list, or should I just wait a few days for him to do it again?