What NOT to Do For Upvotes & Follows

in minnows •  7 years ago  (edited)

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This post kinda piggy backs off my post from yesterday:
https://steemit.com/minnows/@chelsea88/why-you-should-not-be-jealous-and-or-discouraged-by-other-steemians-success

As I immerse myself more and more into this unique and amazing community, I am noticing things that as a "minnow" or a beginner you really shouldn't be doing.

I will preface by saying I am still a beginner myself technically, but I feel confident enough in myself to post a few "what not to do" items for you. These items have specifically to do with my title.

I know, I know, you're new here on STEEMIT and your posts just aren't getting attention. Yeah can be frustrating, I feel you. You're prob also lacking in STEEM or sbd to promote your post too. But I truly feel some of the things I'm seeing other beginners do wrong, in terms of attempting to attain a following roots from impatience ultimately. I've said it once, I'll say it again:
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  1. Do not spam someone else's post with your unrelated content. If it IS related, then by all means, please share as that is contributory! !
    Sorry (not sorry) but, doing the above is very off putting.
  2. Enough with the "I'll upvote / follow you if you upvote /follow me". You MIGHT could get away with redirecting an author to your profile for an actual upvote/follow if again, your contributing in some way with your comment.
    Saying this isn't contributory at all. Plus you may end up with a bunch of followers but not valuable ones (which won't help your long term success on here)
  3. Responding to someone's post with the whole follow/upvote me bit makes it appear you didn't even read their content.
  4. I also see people attempting a contributory comment that's not actually Contributory. Chances are if an author spent a deal of time on their post they already know it's a "good post".
    The whole "cool post. Follow me and ill follow/upvote you"
    "Cool post " or words to that does not equal contributory comment

So those four are some recent ones I've noticed. By no means am I trying to come across condescending, because I know that usually there's no ill intent behind these types of actions.

Plus, you're supposed to be ENJOYING your time here on this amazing platform. Why rush to the "finish"? You might miss some amazing scenery along the way if you do. I will re-iterate on my previous post, it's OK to feel discouraged just try to remember:

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Thanks for reading. Hope to have helped. As always hope you're having a nice day/night and keep steemin'!

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Seriously! People come on here with the sole intention of making money and not valuing the quality people on here.

You couldn't be more correct

Not a strategy that will be fruitful in the long term, though.
Here you succeed by adding value, there's no shortcut.

kidding;D;D Thanks a lot , those are things that we tent to do, so those are good advices!

Cool post

You have wise advice, and I expect you will go far on Steemit!

This is all a slow building process-- and pretty much all social media is. Elsewhere, people have asked me how I got 16K likes on my Facebook page... and my first answer is always "eight years."

I guess part of it is just that we live in an instant gratification world... and part of it is people getting all anxious and fired up because there's... ta-da... rewards involved.

This is good and real... giving you a re-steem for added visibility.

Thank you very much. I also agree it has A LOT to do with insta- gratification .
PS - I'm also an HSP and love cats!

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I wrote a post about this 2 days ago and I coldnt agree more.

Getting "empty" follower, who arent interested in what you have to share here, will get you nowhere imo.Because the chancesyou arent interested in their content either and you have a newsfeed full of posts that you will not take a second look at.

I hope you dont mind if I share my post, if so let me know and I will remove it.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@flipstar/still-giving-away-free-hugs-and-some-advice-from-newb-to-newb-my-second-steemit-week-and-my-biggest-mistake-so-far

As i said posting relavent info is awesome! Upvoted you comment, following ,and ill check your article out soon!

Thank you for this! I'm new too, but I've been reading up on the etiquette and just the general steemit how to or not to, and I must say that yes, I am frustrated that some of my posts are not doing well, but also it's made me realize that it has to do with who you follow. I have met a few really great people on here who are kind of guiding me along, and these are the ppl who are voting for me and supporting, not the random followers that are just following me for a follow.

I'd rather do it properly and take my time than build fake followers and upvotes

You point out something important, @princessmewmew: Namely that it does matter who you follow. The other day, I came across the profile of someone who'd been on Steemit for four weeks and had 1100(!) followers and was following close to 2000 people.

Wait... WHAT?

I've managed to hand pick 300 people to follow in the course of almost five months. Needless to say, even with 1100 "followers," this person's posts were mostly earning a couple of dollars.

Which brings up another point... just because someone follows you, doesn't mean you're under ANY obligation to "follow back." Follow people who create content that actually interests you, in some way. Does the equation end up a little uneven? Sure... I have 2.6 times more people following me than I follow... but so what?

Good for you! !

Hey that is on point! Now I will try to follow up with an example of a good comment :) !!
Hey, those are excellent points. Minnows can still be good people to give advice to other new users. I made some posts called from a minnow to the minnows, they are full of good things you might want to read. And also @sykochica has the most comprehensive guides for new users! I recommend checking her out and receiving the information overload (it's worth it) !! Look forward to talking more in the future!

Sweet. Thanks I will look for that guide. I also agree that minnows are valuable! And can give great insight. I will also check out your guide as well. Thank you

I'll vouch for @sykochica too. She's awesome.

Totally following her thanks to the suggestions :)

Rome wasn't built in a day - that is the keyword here, word up. I agree with your every single word. Long story short - good content defends itself there is no need to rush like you said. Great post!

Right on. Glad you found this content useful. Thanks for the comment. Full STEEM ahead!

Oh the best one is when someone posts a new blog post that at least would take you 5 minutes to reach and 2 minutes later already has 5 comments that contribute nothing lol.

However this is what makes Steemit powerful is that we can upvote both posts and comments so only those with quality information are at the top. You will quickly seem the spammers be reduced.

Whenever it comes to money however and the more of it the more you will see bots, scammers and spammers. Best to flag content like that and make sure not to comment on it or upvote it.

Quality content ALWAYS wins out!

Ha, that is a good point. Must be a lot of speed readers on here lol

I like to tell people that they gained a new follower when I start following because of a blog. Then I proceed to comment on their post with why it resonated with me. Most of my replies are as long as this one and it seems to be working for me. I have been here less than a week and I've picked up over 100 followers that actually respond. This is a really cool place, but you have to put in the work. Thank you for posting this and you know what.... you earned a new follower. Everyone that is new to Steemit can find value in your advice.

Thank you! Yep there are those that put in the time and manage to be a shiny minnow. :) ♡ i always comment with why it resonated. That's how you pick up both followers and become a followee. We're in this together if we have the right mindset. You gained a new follower as well my friend.

Awesome! Thank you so much. I look forward to more of you insight. Keep up the good work.

Indeed! Full STEEM ahead

On a side note, I really wanted to just reply with...

"Cool post. Follow me and ill upvote you"

lol

please upvote and follow me. LOL. Just kidding. Well said. I probably should read yesterday's post for full context.

I was about to say really dude? Haha. I love a sense of humor

Well said, and the more time I spend on steemit the more I notice those with more followers that actually upvote and comment are those that don't ask for them, but grab readers attention.

They want to be part of the dialogue...

Yes part of the dialogue and the living breathing, ever evolving being that is STEEMIT

Excellent insight, especially from someone just starting out. I've noticed a ton of that sort of "upvote me I'll upvote you" on chat lately, and as someone who's been here for a while, it's terribly annoying. You have a good head on your shoulders. :)

Like @drpuffnstuff said, @sykochica has an excellent wealth of information in terms of guides, everything from topic selection to Markdown help. If you haven't already, check out #steemprentice on Steemit.chat. A lot of that stuff is archived as bookmarks there!

Nice info. Didn't know about that channel. Been on steemit chat once and didn't like it because of what you just pointed out. But ill check out that channel might be more of my cup of Tea

It's a great resource for post promotion and for community organization (though I wish it didn't eat up so much RAM running in the background). Best thing I can suggest is to ignore private messages.

Yeah, that's the first thing i got and i bet you can't guess what it said......

Lol

Anything anti-spam and I'm in love. Been raving about the last couple of days as well. Thank you! Xx, Kay

I always appreciate it when fellow members post something that will help new and older members improve on their posts here. I agree with your view point and advised some of my friends on some on of the points mentioned here ..Thanks for sharing.

Glad it could help you and some of your friends! That's the aim after all! Make STEEM even greater via collaborative effort

Good point hence why steemit is great: because of people like you...bless you and lets stay in touch.

Thank you. I've followed you so that we can.

The same...thanks and we will surely stay in touch. Success

I've been here for nine months. The spamming has been getting worse, but I've been lucky. I've been getting more of these "good post" style comments though lately. I'll admit, it bothers me. If I write a ridiculous comedy/art post and someone is thanking me for my "wonderful information", I do become frustrated.

How often do people give you a random compliment about nothing while you out roaming around the streets? Never to rarely. People small talk, sure, but those comment aren't even that.

I feel you. I would /am annoyed by that too. They just gave it away they didn't read your post at all or maybe just looked at the pictures like children :/

I've noticed recently a surge of people commenting with look at my profile and follow, or I've liked your post now you like mine. I've since given up replying and telling them it does not work that way here. These people are not here to actually contribute, but to take. I believe very few of them will actually change their ways.

You are probably right. Which means they won't be successful on here

I was intrigued by possibility of making money from the thin air, but when I "got in" what amazed me is number of creative people and quality of posts. Of course not all texts or content is good, but I find what I like and stick to it. I am newbie myself just few days on platform and that forced self promotion almost killed my interest in steemit. I'm still in reading faze, hope that one day will hop in as author.

The reading and curation is inspiring and as important in some way as being the author. After all where'd the aithors be without the curators? :)

cool post. upvoted/followed. follow me back!!!

hahahaha juuuuuust kidding. I agree with you 100%. I'm working on expressing myself using Steemit and if I make some money well that's great too! There is a really nice community here that I enjoy being a part of first and foremost.


Together, let’s build a wonderful
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Have a great day!

Thank you! I am actually gonna give you a follow too :)

I know right, i have faced the above situations and they even force you to follow them sigh

Force you?

Yeah! Kind of.. when you don't follow them back for some reasons and then they start commenting and even messaging you for following them :/

Oh god. :/

Yeah i know :/

yes you are right i think we have to vote whom we want not just because they vote us and i also notice vote for vote not helpful for earning so its good read less post but good post and give precious vote to them who deserve without expect to return. i am new and last week on of my friend told me same as dont waste your vote to anyone and vote to whom which you think deserve and from that day i am try to do it.

Your posts are really helpful for new people here as me. Have a great day.

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Yes you have shined the light on some things lol!

Glad to help :)

Hi Chelsea -it's me the new one from yesterday - thanks again for your welcoming me - and it's only now I've found the time to read this.
It's all helpfull those advices and I hope I'll do not all wrong ... see you ;)

Eh, everyone makes mistakes. And you're welcome! STEEM on!

mistakes mistakes - it doesn't go without ; )
yeah, and we'll steem on - thanks

Well said @chelsea88, I got two comments like those yesterday and I was so mad about it, lol!

Ha, i feel you!