Grin coin vs Monero

in monero •  7 years ago  (edited)

Grin coin will be the first real life product of a proposed bitcoin privacy tech- MimbleWimble. You can read the basic of MimbleWimble here: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sames/the-future-of-bitcoin-privacy
MimbleWimble is near the bottom but read my whole post and get enlightened! :)
So thanks too reddit user KnifeOfPi2 here is the diff between Grin and Monero:

In short, Grin is about stripping things away - stripping everything away - down to the bare bones of a private blockchain.

Basically, Monero has three privacy protocols.Ring signatures, stealth addresses, and ringCT. However, stealth addresses and CT are the only parts that are absolutely essential to privacy. Ring signatures are great for the paranoid, but they actually aren’t completely necessary. They’re wonderful, but they’re also redundant. Grin strips these away and leaves only stealth addresses and confidential transactions. An observer still can’t derive any useful information from a Grin transaction, and the fact that Grin allows transactions to aggregate, or merge together, makes it even harder to trace.

One of the issues with Monero is blockchain bloat. All this privacy leads to very large transaction sizes. So how do you deal with this? Some solutions like bulletproofs create smaller transactions, but even then you won’t be able to reduce the blockchain size by more than ten times - and it’ll still be bigger than a Bitcoin blockchain of equivalent complexity. This is bad for nodes, because eventually people will run out of space.

So Grin does something pretty darn cool. Let’s say A sends 10 Grin to B, and B later sends that 10 Grin to C. This will be recorded in the final blockchain as A—>C! B gets cut completely, because his ownership of the coins did not change the final state. Now of course nobody will know who A and C are, because of stealth addresses. This is great for cutting down blockchain size because intermediate transactions can be stripped away.

The last thing Grin strips away is something that literally every other cryptocurrency - even Monero - has. With Grin, the entire concept of addresses is eliminated. They just don’t exist. All transactions are created by direct wallet-to-wallet interaction!! Not only is this really cool, but it can be done over email, or any other method. The last great thing about killing addresses is that there is literally nothing to link you to. Even if you reuse the same wallet, there’s no need to create new addresses. Your privacy cannot even be violated by someone with whom you’ve transacted, because you have no address.
Add Tor/VPN protection and privacy is further increased.

Isn't that just cool?!!!
I can't wait to see Grin coin. I heard they might be doing some type of a bitcoin pegging.

And who says bitcoin does not find any new tech.
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Nice idea.I am sure that when LN becomes fully functional, many new features will be developed on Bitcoin. Right now LN is priority...

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Interesting name for tech MimbleWimble....

Going to the bare basics maybe good and the wallet to wallet transactions sound amazing, i need to see this in action 0.0

Here's a guide for how to mine Grin for those that are intrested in this project https://steemit.com/grin/@imineblocks/how-to-mine-grin-mining-guide-for-mimblewimble-cuckoo-pow

Very interested but how does Grin compete with Monero's decentralized nature (ASIC resistance) and emmision curve? Monero is more than just a privacy coin.

Any coin can have asic resistant and have emission curve. Asic in they are better than gpu if done right. In fact Monero plan on supporting asic one day. And also how is Monero more than a privacy coin?

Bitcoin does not have an emission curve, and any coin can not have one unless it's developed with it Or hard forked into. Please do due diligence before asking a question with the answer embedded inside the question itself. Monero does not have any plans on accepting ASICs, that was the reason for the recent CryptoNight7 hard fork. In fact Monero algorithm will adapt every 6mos to ward off ASICS. The emmision curve is not liked by everyone but it and the 6mo rule sets Monero apart from the rest of privacy coins.

We can all agree to disagree but please avoid spreading false info.

Good vibes 🍻

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

When I said have i meant is that it possible to be coded in. Look I am not a grin shiller-it not even out yet. Hell grin tech shall be used in Monero. I love Monero :)
According to the dev team and the community Monero will keep on hard forking to be antiasic until Asic are commoditized.

Better view here: https://imgur.com/vT1pKkZ
The commnuiity knows that there will be a point when Monero can't just keep hardforking. It still a long way but one day it will happen and the 6 month thing will stop.
And also how is Monero more than a privacy coin?
It a decentralized community supported privacy coin if that what you mean.
Zcash and Dash are pretty centralized and don't listen to community much. Hell the only reason you hear dash is bc of there huge funds they have :(
Or maybe you just have a diff def of what Monero is.
Anyways, I don't say anything I can't back up :)
So i suggest you remove that I spread false info
I am willing to hear your counter.
I am human after all so I may of missed the latest news but as far i read what I said was true.
But don't sweat it if you are wrong- you learn new thing every day :)

Sorry if I implied you were shilling, I was just unclear about your understanding of the tail emmision. I guess we agree there since being coded in is under the terms I stated.

Thanks for the screenshot, I remember that quote/tweet vividly.

I stand firm behind 'resist them as long as we can' meaning resist them until ASICs are as common as GPUs. That is highly unlikely in the near term so he was being politically correct while stating Monero will be ASIC resistant for as long as possible.

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No problem :)

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Good timing! It's nice to found this article. I'm doing a research about this Grin because it was already listed on kucoin, here's the news https://news.kucoin.com/en/grin-grin-gets-listed-on-kucoin/ Looking forward to this coin!