The Joss Whedon Dilemma

in movies •  7 years ago  (edited)

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DC have two different problems with Joss Whedon Justice League and Batgirl.

You might have heard about the publicity disaster that Joss Whedon found himself in. If not, I’ll update you on what’s going on. Joss Whedon’s ex-wife, Kai Cole, penned an essay accusing him of being unfaithful throughout their marriage and betraying the feminist ideals that he has so publicly endured. here is a link to the full article: http://www.thewrap.com/joss-whedon-feminist-hypocrite-infidelity-affairs-ex-wife-kai-cole-says/amp/

Usually I am the person who separates the person and their art, but this is going to directly affect Justice League. Not a lot of people know this, but Zack Snyder’s wife, Deborah Snyder, also works with him as the producer of Justice League and she too stepped down from Justice League. This means that Joss Whedon is now the only face of this movie, there is no producer that can promote the movie.

For example, Bryan Singer never personally promoted any X-men movie ever since the alleged pedophilia accusation surfaced (I think they were closed, but some people are still not satisfied). Instead, producer and writer Simon Kinberg did most of the interviews to promoted the movies. Perhaps that’s why he’s going to direct X-Men Dark Phoenix, as a reward. Justice League has no Simon Kinberg to lean on.

At first, there were rumors that Joss Whedon might be fired. Which is within DC’s rights if they think his reputation will damage the movie. They have enough problems. As the storm started to pass, DC decided to simply start doing damage control by minimizing his part in the movie. Yesterday (24.8), our Wonder Woman (and DC’s most favorite movie character), Gal Gadot, stated in an interview: “"Look, Joss, to my understanding, was Zack's choice to finish the movie. And the tone can't be completely different because the movie was already shot. Joss is just fine-tuning." (source: http://movieweb.com/justice-league-movie-joss-whedon-cant-change-tone/). Ouch. Basically, forget the co-director credit, he’ll be lucky to get any credit at the end of the movie. Though make no mistake, he will get the paycheck.

Joss Whedon will not promote the movie as much as he should. DC will find him a replacement for the promotion campaign, even if it will have to be Jeff Jones himself. Joss Whedon will be limited to mostly premade videos, just like Bryan Singer.

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Justice League is not aimed at Joss Whedon fans, so DC doesn’t need to worry. However, they should take Batgirl from him. In light of this scandal, the terrible script he wrote for Wonder Woman and in light of his unfortunate comments about the character as it seems that he feels the need to make her damaged (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joss-whedon-batgirl-exploring-damage-behind-his-next-superhero-995812) it’s best that they either change directors or kill the movie. It’s a hopeless in his hands. By unfortunate comments I mean her origin story in my opinion seems pretty light, the damage part comes much later on. My personal recommendation for a director is Jennifer Kent (who was nominated to direct Captain Marvel). Joss Whedon has now become a terrible choice.

First picture from official Twitter page of Justice League and the second one is from Batgirl Wikipedia page.

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Personally I don't think his personal life, and treatment of his wife, have anything to do with him being a feminist. Feminism revolves around to basic principles, for women to be treated equally as a man in all aspects of life, and for their gender not to be their defining characteristic. If he was married to a man, and had treated him in the same way, the feminist argument would never have been brought up. Should his wife be treated differently because she is women, or should she be treated equally? The media coverage would seem to suggest the former.

If he was a woman he would be treated the same. Case in point: Angelina Jolie. She's still trying to recover from her falls allegation against Brad Pitt, everyone hate her, everyone took his side. It's not about gender, it's about being an honest and decent person.

I'm referring more to the fact people are claiming he can no longer be a feminist for the way he treated his wife, as they are not mutually exclusive things. While I don't know much about the Jolie story, people's action don't necessarily have a negative effect on their career. Roman Polanski was convicted of statutory rape, skipped country before sentencing, never served his time and has since won a Oscar.

Roman Polanski never claimed he was a feminist or based most of his fan base on it. But make no mistake, no one forgets about it, and people always ask him about it and it hunts him everywhere. I think that people also feel sorry for him because his fiancee was brutally murdered while being eight months pregnant by a crazy cult.
Yes, you can be a terrible person and create good feminist characters, but Joss Whedon hasn't done that in a long time either. In fact he manage to annoy that fan base with the Black Widow plot in Age of Ulton. It seems like his vision for Batgirl has already manage to anger Batgirl fans, so it doesn't look good. And DC have never been good at dealing with publicity problems or reigning in problematic directors when they needed to. Basing your fan base on being feminist is tricky because they can easily turn on you if you don't live up to their expectations, he should have seen it coming.

Do I understand the message here is that a man who identifies with feminists cannot commit adultery or he's betraying feminism? That a man's personal life may disqualify him from continuing work in his professional life? Bill Clinton continued as President of the United States in spite of sexual misconduct with a young intern working for him. Any businessman or school teacher would be fired for that. I haven't paid much attention to the Joss whedon controversy, and I'm not saying I agree or disagree with letting him keep his job. Just wondering if cheating on his wife is the only real charge against him.

I probably won't even notice. Hopefully the movie is good.

No one will ever notice, or know the real truth.

Excelente.

Great post

I had no idea what was cooking in DC. I am more of Marvel although I have liked some Batman.
Very interesting.

Thank you. I also like Marvel more, but I like DC as well. There is a lot more going on, I will try to get to it during the weekend. But with Marvel there is hardly any drama, with DC it's mostly drama because fans don't understand what they are trying to do.

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