@creepyturtle Hahahaha i think you are pretty sure that someone is not going to agree with me! Hahahaha thank you so much for taking some part of your time reading my post, yep i absoluteliy had to take a veeeeeeeery step toughs for getting those beautiful trees where i planned to plant them, it was very worthy! In fact i havent readed yet any permacultural tecniques, if you could send me some info, i would really appreciate it! Again thank you very much!