๐Ÿ”Ž An Unbiased Perspective on #Charlottesville ๐Ÿš˜

in news โ€ขย  7 years agoย  (edited)

What You Need To Know About #Charlottesville From An Unbiased Perspective

I interviewed a special guest on the insane events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

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Ford Fischer is editor and chief of News to Share was on the ground reporting.
There's a lot to take in, and I wanted to get an independent perspective on how everything unfolded there.

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Fortunately, despite the myriad of violence- Ford is in overall good health.
He has pepper spray burns and was physically attacked / caught in the crossfire
The biggest news there was the seemingly intentional car crash, where 19 or more people were hit by a pileup of three different cars.

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He witnessed one person having CPR administered for several minutes and it appeared they had given up. He reported on live video that it looked like she had died, which the Governor confirmed an hour later.

There was also a report of a helicopter crash, and two police officers monitoring the rally also passed away. Ford went to the crash site but police stopped anyone from getting close.

The ramifications from this are gonna be very big, and will be playing out later.

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Earlier in the day the Unite the Right were in the area that they were designated, and police mostly had a hands-off approach. The police had set up barricades between the rally participants, and those protesting the rally- who were basically supposed to say outside of the park.

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The problems really arose when the rally-goers had to walk through the counter-protesters in order to get into the park. This is where most of the violence occurred at that peripheral and that was where the militia were taking the role of separating the two groups.

Antifa condemned them by saying they were defending the the rallyers whereas the militia said they were truly neutral and were just trying to stop the violence. It basically turned into a war.

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There's a real question to be asked about how we got to this point. Yes there's a big divide and conquer strategy at play here and a lot of polarization. Many are saying that this is only the beginning of it and we have been seeing the inclinations of this from the very beginning.

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It would be very interesting to get a critique and kind of a report on how the police managed this situation. We've seen from other events like in Berkeley, where there was police and they left the scene and let these two sides fight each other and we saw that repeatedly happen in other protests.

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Ford reiterated that the police stayed uninvolved for the first couple of hours until eventually the barricades were taken down by the Antifa. Once there was no physical barrier between Antifa and the Lee park protestors, the police declared it to be an illegal gathering before noon when the rally was initially supposed to start.

Violence has started before this time but police ignored. Once they declared the rally canceled riot cops slowly emptied the entire park. Ford realized that this move by the police had been a tactical error as the Unite the Right protesters ended up permeating out to mingle with the leftist protesters.

This caused violence to erupt for four miles in every direction. The clashes had expanded becoming much more chaotic and confusing.

The police likely knew this was going turn into chaos once they tried to shut down the rally. It really doesn't make sense from a policing standpoint. Luke had witnessed a similar occurrence in San Diego during a Trump rally when the police, instead of dividing the two sides from one another, they police forsed everyone together causing massive clashes to take place.

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If the police had taken an approach more similar to the militia they might have stopped the violence. If they had allowed the rally to continue and basically kept the two protests separate, letting them scream at each other from behind layers of cops.

Ford posted a photo earlier on his Facebook of a man who pulled his handgun out of his holster and pointed it in his direction. Granted many people were open carrying so having a rifle slung over your shoulder was not a huge deal but to actually unholster in a menacing manner was not expected. That sort of thing started happening once the the two sides were pushed together. The police could have been putting themselves in the middle saving a lot of people from getting hurt.

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There's a lot of finger-pointing going on now from all sides. The left are saying that it was the Unite the Right rally that instigated the violence. Others are saying that it was Antifa being more aggressive, instigating much of the conflict. This was probably consistent with other clashes where the left wing tended to initiate the violence. The main difference in Charlottesville is that the right was prepared for this in terms of weapons and shields.

From what Ford had witnessed it was the Traditionalist Workers Party, a party with a national socialist philosophy (Ford described them as neo-nazis under a different name), came with shields and helmets.

When Antifa went to confront them they sprayed from behind their shields and they were hitting people with batons. They were clearly prepared to beat the crap out of the people who opposed them and that's exactly what they did.

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From a political perspective this is a sad day in American politics, especially with people dying. The trajectory of where this seems to be heading is very concerning. With billionaires like the Koch brothers financing the right and then other billionaires like Soros financing the left, it's really more about the up / down that people should be concerned with- not right / left.

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The night before there was political discourse where about 250 Alt-right had a rally holding torches and it looked like a KKK style event. They marched through campus. They were chanting extreme right-wing political stuff and then the left wing who chanted the counter chants like "No Trump, no KKK, no racist USA," so there was a little bit of political exchange.

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Charlottesville was honestly just about fighting, there were speeches that the Unite the Right had planned but were cancelled and Antifa had their normal chants but there were hardly no debating or conversation. Any that might have taken place became a confrontation, screaming, and fighting.

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At the at the end of the day, if one looked at any two people in a fight swap their positions there wouldn't be much of a difference. It just became this left versus right- red VS blue, team 1 against team 2 kind of factionalism.

Ford said:
"I think it's worth thinking about how we got to a point in political discourse where people feel like fighting each other on the streets is going to have some kind of a real-world outcome?

And to the AntiFa, are you really going to beat the crap- or literally beat the racism out of somebody's head?.. I I kind of doubt it..

And and on the right- are you really going to defeat leftist government by beating up some random leftist on the street?.. Also probably not!"

And that's not to say that ever that they're gonna be able to achieve what they want through books and debates and things like that but they're gonna do a lot less damage if they pursue peaceful means to their own agenda."

Very well said, Ford! Especially with both 'sides' trying to be right all the time, and upholding one side, instead of trying to see both sides of the situation.

Thanks Ford, for your great, independent work!

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ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 
ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

It is so sad and embarrassing that in 2017 we haven't yet given up on the left/right paradigm.
It spews divide and conquer tactics and unimportant news stories while conflating them.
We need to remember that GLOBALIZED DECENTRALIZATION is a way of living that is worth pursuing.
We all want clean
AIR
WATER
FOOD
We want shelter.
We can technologically do so. Look at all the patents and secrets hidden from us.
Don't fall for this division
#plantsomeshit #community #decentralization #basicneeds

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Indeed!

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Yep, I agree. And the left and the right cannot enter into a civil dialogue with each other. I would not be surprised if you put both groups in a room. Left the room for ten minutes and I guarantee if you came back it would be an absolute blood bath. Jacque Fresco was right. The left and the right cannot talk to each other. And it doesn't matter who gets in, they are still forcing their will onto others who technically do not agree with it. What about the 46.7% of Americans who were eligible to vote but chose not to vote for either candidate.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Those that choose not to vote choose to have no say in how they are directly manipulated. I'm not a big fan of our current paradigm but giving Trump Supreme Court nominations was a huge mistake and justice will suffer because of it. Nonvoters are still just as responsible as voters that choose one side unquestionably. Lots of folks want to dispute this because they are smart enough to see the ruse, but those we elect are our fault whether we vote for them or advocate against them. Therefore, this is OUR fault, not some abstract duality.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

We are at the point where we can do things on our own, without them. Blockchain technology can be used to give us more freedom and power, great transitional step in the right direction.
Learning practical skills, building a good mental foundation on how to deal with events and others around you.
Be aware of the consumer culture, vote with your dollar, not with a ballet. The belief that there isn't enough to go around is a joke now. Since the industrial revolution, along with inventors like Tesla, R Buckminster Fuller, we have the ability to use technology to create an abundance. Provide and accomplish more and more with less and less. Invest our knowledge more into the arts, engineering, science.

WW1 was the fork in the road. We chose destruction and power instead of abundance and prosperity. I am so beyond the political system. Decentralization is paramount, along with community building.
Technical efficiency instead of market efficiency.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

I don't get that comment about Trump Supreme Court nominations. So, you are good with Killary doing it? She would have been able to stack the entire court with ultra leftists that absolutely hate the constitution and would basically do away with it ruling by ruling. At least, alternating presidents tries to keep some semblance of balance. The left is especially dangerous because they believe the court should essentially be WRITING law rather than interpreting it.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

seems like people keep forgetting about Obama putting his own judges into courts as well

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

@lukewearechange that's some crazy shit man! On a side note, you gotta get that Ford guy on Steemit! This is the ultimate platform for activists!

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

keepin it real as always

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Its cool to see you posting here on Steemit! Followed and upvoted :D

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Very good article, but you didn't include the fact that AntiFa was organized by a alleged company calling itself Crowds On Demand, based in CA, but claiming to have office in NV, and NY. They are not registered in any of the states with the Secretary of State. In addition, they advertised in Charlotte, NC for paid protesters, paying $25 an hour plus other perks.
Adam Stuart, the alleged CEO, of a non corporation evidently....
https://crowdsondemand.com/who-we-are/

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Proof that it was AntiFa that advertised and not DNC troublemakers would be good ! It was DNC behind those ads plus Soros

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Keep doing god's work, Luke! You are one of the top journalists in the world.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

God's work you are correct. Keeping all of the purposeful chaos straight is the key to taking back our power as a people. The more I know about who's behind which group etc.. the easier it is to educate those around me. God loves it when we promote truth.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

everyone seems to have forgotten about Russia

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

A well thought out blog and balanced. Upvoted.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย Reveal Comment
ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Theres a problem with the united states, its divided and people want blood on both far ends of the sides, and those ends are badly misinformed with fake news.

This kind of people are the worse uneducated outraged, bigoted, violent, fascists, racists, and worse they feel like they are right and have an excuse to be violent.

They live in a information bubble still to this day. They only believe what they want to believe even if is a complete lie.

These outcasts need to be deal with both on the right and the left. More blood will be sheed if law and order is not being upholded as it should.

Sad to see uneducated weaklings killing and hurting inocent people.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

wow Very interesting Really beautiful work, @lukewearechange Thank you for sharing

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Thank you for your unbiased coverage of this.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

I am proud of what do you do.

Luke, help me, who was the Charlottesville hit-and-run driver? James or Jerome!?!?!?!

I wrote a little piece about it with pics to explain why I'm so confused but I think the Hit-and-run might have been staged. It stinks of bait for a 2nd American civil war.

https://steemit.com/charlotteville/@imagi-whizzardly/hold-on-who-was-the-charlottesville-hit-and-run-driver-alex-or-jerome

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย (edited)

It is my belief that this being perpetrated on us purposefully , and unfortunately I am listening to so many people who are caught up and see this as real. When the smoke is clear we will probably find the powers that shouldn't be working to take our freedoms from us. Soros has always used his talent to bring down governments. Could he be that he is working to bring our Republic down? Thank you Luke the more truth we get the more we can protect ourselves and educate others

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

yes he is.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Great story Luke. Thanks for the on ground reporting. I miss the videos of you and Tim Pool running from the tear gas. Great to see you on steemit! I'm here because youtube can suck a fat one for censoring free speech.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Amen. Fuck YOUTUBE

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Crazy times...

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย (edited)

Thanks Luke. Have you seen this on Brennan Gilmore who previously worked for the US State Department on Kony 2012 being the one who filmed and released the video to the media? He also works for Virginia democratic party representative Tom Perriello. There seems to be some covering up going on in regards to him by the State Department now. I put together a large post with quite a bit of material explaining how Tom Perriello is one of the founders of Avaaz which is involved with Soros and regime change operations in Libya and Syria. These are some strange coincidences and definitely worth looking further into. https://steemit.com/new/@clarityofsignal/charlottesville-attack-lead-media-personality-is-assistant-to-tom-perriello-founder-of-avaaz-linked-to-regime-change-in-syria

https://imgur.com/a/d3sFx

The Outer Light - Some odd things about the event at Charlottesville

Soros was also involved in funding the Kony 2012 propaganda flick. http://www.activistpost.com/2012/03/soros-funded-human-rights-watch-jumps.html

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

This is a shame. Violence is never O.K.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

If you want some objective thing i think you should watch this one too
https://streamable.com/svxcr

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

It really made my blood boil when i saw that video about the dude running over people with his car... Jesus fucking christ, what has humanity come to.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

He has mental problems as well as schizofrenia, but media dont report about one specific thing that might have triggered this accident. Before this shit some "peacfull" left protester attacked his car with a bat. So a normal guy would panick a little bit but a guy with mental disorder would panic a lot more.
But media dont seem to talk about it

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

They refuse to acknowledge that the car was being attacked before the accident, even though it's in their own footage.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Sadly, nothing has changed. Go back to the coliseums and the bread! The same controlling families are in power from those days same gladiator in the middle, same lions eating people and I don't mean to pick on Rome. if look during the Roman Empire across the world and before- same people doing the same things- same families. I think the only thing that has changed is technologies.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Lukw...you are my brothers doppleganger.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย 

Luke I go there for work every week, I had no idea about any of this. It's very sad :(

Cville is a college town that stays quiet during the summer and lights up when UVA is having classes.

But that's only my perspective, I just deliver cell phone accessories to some of the downtown corner markets so I'm out of there by 3:30 or 5.

ย  ยท ย 7 years agoย