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janine-ariane (53) · 7 years ago

I am Dutch and I live in Belgium, I know people who have gone through this so-called fake events. You do not know what you see when there is a razzia somewhere and people empty their pockets. Out for that, I do think there is a load of smoke without fire and things lighted on purpose, but it is any way ever so cruel to make jokes about it. Whey would you feed it? let it be do not give it any interest. that is just where the real ones kick on.

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phlatattak (57) · 7 years ago

We mock these fake events so more people realize they are garbage and the false terror does not enter their brains. It's absolutely not cruel to make jokes about HOAX events. You take away the power of propagandists by making them look ridiculous.

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janine-ariane (53) · 7 years ago

I have lost a man I knew to much to call a friend with the bombing in the airport in Brussels. I am friends with a woman who lost her grandchild in the metro station. Who it does I do not give a fuck. But I tell you the happening is not fake.

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sneak (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

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phlatattak (57) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey @Sneak. You've got it backwards. We don't believe that the earth is flat, nor do we believe that NASA is lying to us.

We simply don't buy the official narrative re: many things. The burden of proof is on those making the claim.

With that in mind, why do you believe that kids died at Stoneman High?

What logic and facts do you have?

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missioncontrol (44) · 7 years ago

A lot more than you do....

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haejin (88) · 7 years ago

You can't debunk others because they think differently from you! That's what HITLER did! Does that even make any comprehension to you?

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donkeypoke (40) · 7 years ago

does that even make any comprehension to you?

Ha ha ha ha ha... so great! This is exactly the kind of thing that makes you extra effective at what you do @haejin. Sometimes I think it has to be on purpose.

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haejin (88) · 7 years ago

You can't just shut people up because you don't agree! That is unallowable censorship. Downvoted!

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sneak (64) · 7 years ago

Who said anything about shutting people up?

I flagged you because I didn't agree with your rewards. You're siphoning about $70,000 USD per month from the rewards pool with your self-voting.

Then you flag me because you disagree with me - which is it? Is it ok when I do it, or is it only ok when you do it?

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haejin (88) · 7 years ago (edited)

You, like all trolls, have placed the context elsewhere except into your post; that is where the error lies.

I have downvoted the racist meme makers. I have downvoted the insult ridden posters. I have downvoted the liars. I have downvoted those who relentlessly downvoted the innocent commenters and followers in my blogs, I have downvoted those who have intentionally spammed my blogs, I have downvoted those who adverstise on my blogs, I have downvoted those who censored on my blogs, and I shall continue to do so. If you're so rightous, to these perpetrators....whom have you downvoted for their actions? Your silence clearly has meant you approved. Don't say you didn't know of them because if you've been watching my blog enough to review my payouts..then you've seen the spammers, racists, insult throwers and the like!

Steemit is the wild digital west! It's the survival of the fittest and having sponsors and whales who upvote my blogs is the best protection against jealous haters and trolls and by standers like you and who only can see it your way and no other way. This is evident on how you've been stiffling other bloggers on Steemit with your downvotes.

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icomment (50) · 7 years ago

Such a reasoned and seasoned response!

Just to add, besides the racist taunting and jealously ridden trolling, none of those spamming @hajeins blog is open to reason. In deed, they spam taunt in the hope that they are taunted back. Try to engage them in any reasonable discussion, and they will throw insult on your face.

What above all, i find more disappointing, is as @haejin points out, the silence of these self-appointed steemit police towards the racists spamming racists his blog, and insulting everyone of us who daily waits for @haejin's TA and try to learn from them. Personally, i only joined Steemit, about a month ago. I am still a crypto novice, albeit being very enthused by it. Which is in part why, having heard of @haejin, i took to following him, and now gladly, daily learn from him.

For a while, i nearly took to the side of haters, believing the propaganda so skillfully twisted to demonize @haejin, Vis-à-vis his reward pool share, but upon my own independent research, including reading through the SteemWhite paper to understand how the whole reward pool works, including members' psyche, i found no reason to take issue with a man who is obviously doing exactly what we are all doing here: working hard to earn.

Notably, this line in the steemwhite paper was an eye opener for me, and allowed me to understand the jealousy against @hajein.

The steemWhite paper (pg. 14/32) warns against – the crab mentality

The use of negative-voting to keep people from abusing the system leverages the crab mentality that many people have when it is perceived that one individual is profiting at the expense of everyone else. While crab mentality normally refers to short-sighted people keeping good people down, it is also what allows good people to keep bad people down.

The only “problem” with crab mentality is when people wrongly believe someone is profiting at everyone else's expense

This for me opened up my mind, what remained thereafter was a question of humility and standing up for what i believed to be right.

I quickly followed @haejin, and have since been standing up for him against the racists and haters, not through insults and racists taunt-backs, but through reason and argument.

That said, Is there anybody who is at Steemit and wishes not to earn? How much, if i may ask those taking issue with @haejin's rewards, is too much and how much is too little to take from the reward pool? Because until you set agreeable ceilings, and this must follow from having the 'moral right' to do so, which unfortunately nobody can claim, this quarrel with @haejin is at best subjective, biased.

And those manipulating and paying to encourage negative sentiment against a man who, considering his success on steemit, should ideally be lauded rather than demonized - look at his number of followers , also look up to beyond steemit and see the global acclaim and respect @haejin receives - should be decent enough to stop .

Granted maybe i am wrong to follow @haejin, and may be another 10 are wrong, maybe another 100 are wrong, maybe another 500 are wrong, or maybe another 5000 are wrong, but seriously how far, and how many can be wrong? Can 24k be wrong, lets face it?

When all is said and done, racism and hate campaigns are not the solution, dialogue, and at very least, common sense are.

I hope this response does not qualify to get flagged!

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haejin (88) · 7 years ago (edited)

If you review my upvotes, you'll see that they were all reactionary to the downvotes from the haters and trolls. Often, as soon as I post, these trolls downvote and make it invisible. So, I upvote it back to visibility. IF you see that as unacceptable and continue downvoting me, I will in reaction to yours, continue self upvoting. You however, seem to ignore the racist memes these trolls put out as well as the jealousy driven insults. Have you seen the spam campaigns these trolls have done on my blog? Have you seen the innocent commenters being downvoted by these haters in their effort to take down my blog? You seem absolutely unaware of these or have ignored it and simply downvoted my blogs yourself continuously.

It's evident you don't like or believe in Technical Analysis as you've written. You must have failed in the past in having tried it and lost money. Unfortunate. Let me tell you, I have 25k followers who disagree with you. They follow for money making analysis and just because YOU don't agree or don't like it gives you no right to stifle what others want.

I too shall downvote your comments and reverse your downvotes when I disagree and feel you are censoring others as you've had quite often. YOU ARE NOT the CENSOR MASTER of STEEMIT! So quit acting so HITLER! My downvotes will not remain idle to your censorship actions!

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sneak (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

It's evident you don't like or believe in Technical Analysis as you've written.

What I believe is irrelevant.

You must have failed in the past in having tried it and lost money.

Nope. I don't trifle with bullshit.

Let me tell you, I have 25k followers who disagree with you.

Also irrelevant. Your rewards are primarily coming from the single vote of one account on each post.

They follow for money making analysis and just because YOU don't agree or don't like it gives you no right to stifle what others want.

Flagging doesn't stifle anything. Your followers are still free to read everything you post. Red herring.

I too shall downvote your comments and reverse your downvotes when I disagree and feel you are censoring others as you've had quite often.

You're flagging out of spite, which is in clear violation of the spirit of flagging. Flagging isn't censorship, it doesn't affect the ability of anyone to read what you have to say. It's a way to reduce the rewards on a post if someone disagrees with the amount scheduled to be paid out.

You're trying to conflate 25k followers that buy into your TA nonsense with one voter, @rancho-relaxo, who makes each of your repetitive, pointless posts pay out to the tune of $70,000 USD per month. Your posts aren't worth that much. I will continue to downvote them if they are scheduled for payouts beyond my own, subjective estimation of their worth. This is not censorship, just voting.

This would be an entirely different story if your rewards were coming from thousands of people you'd helped (which would be impossible with TA, as it's not an accurate tool for predicting anything, so that wouldn't actually happen because your however-many-thousand followers aren't consistently making money with your tea leaf readings). But that's not what's happening here; one person is upvoting each and every post you make, pushing their scheduled payouts up to far beyond what those posts are worth.

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icomment (50) · 7 years ago

I can't read this, could you bold or highlight it please!

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minnowboosted (0) · 7 years ago (edited)

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minnowboosted (0) · 7 years ago

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missioncontrol (44) · 7 years ago

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haejin (88) · 7 years ago (edited)

Downvoted for only onesided post without providing a full, unbiased context. Your comment leads others to misunderstand @haejin's blogs. You also have a history of supporting spams, hate and racist memes towards my blogs.

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missioncontrol (44) · 7 years ago

So we should downvote your posts because they provide a onesided view of a market with biased content, which causes people to misunderstand the financial markets? I think you'd disagree with that.

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haejin (88) · 7 years ago

You, like all trolls, have placed the context elsewhere except into your post; that is where the error lies.

I have downvoted the racist meme makers. I have downvoted the insult ridden posters. I have downvoted the liars. I have downvoted those who relentlessly downvoted the commenters in my blogs, I have downvoted those who have intentionally spammed my blogs, I have downvoted those who adverstise on my blogs, I have downvoted those who censored on my blogs, and I shall continue to do so.

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sneak (64) · 7 years ago

You also have been flagging me, who has done none of those things.

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janine-ariane (53) · 7 years ago

I would research if I was you, where this news is from! and where it is about, and who is this stupid voice?

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janine-ariane (53) · 7 years ago (edited)

it really is sky news. haha like always taking other visions to complete different texts for your information, this was not an exercise. It makes him sound ever so stupid. We all are adviced to have heatblanquets in our EHBO case in the car, so even on that moment there could have been about 100 and yes the fire man have them in packs of 100 in the car. Many times in car accidents they need them. There is so much not true. But it easy to place a different film with self made text.

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phlatattak (57) · 7 years ago

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. Refute the claims or GTFO. The agency a person works for, or their of anyone is irrelevant in the face of the information presented.

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