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This is f**king unbelievable!!! Another school shooting at MY alma mater. Two people have shot and killed at Central Michigan University today. From what I understand the shooter is still at large with local police (good luck with that), State Police and members of the BATF summoned and enroute. I just found out and will post more when I get it. This is unreal, Mt. Pleasant has a population of around 26,000 (plus 35,000 students) and nothing ever happens there! This is from NPR.
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This may not be a mass shooting event, but something else. Suspect is a black male so I expect a lot less coverage than we'd hear otherwise. It doesn't fit the white people are bad narrative.
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psycho w/ a drug problem shot his parents
I would bet there was a pattern of incidents covered up by the school previous to this tragedy
I also expect they will find this kid with a selfie to the face, which is also a pattern for family/psycho shootings
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The last one I remember, a professor's kid was fucked up on drugs (meth or PCP or something like that) charged two cops with a butcher knife and they shot him!
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hell, Ida shot him too
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Shame on you... we're not ALL bad (but we do try!)
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It's apparently our privilege to be bad, and our privilege to not challenge anyone, and our privilege to be the only ones it is okay to post death threats against. :)
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victim disarmament zone?
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I'm sure by now it is... When I was there in the early 90's I had to keep mine hid!
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https://twitter.com/MtPleasantMI/status/969623388238082050/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2Fsections%2Fthetwo-way%2F2018%2F03%2F02%2F590239044%2Fcentral-michigan-university-on-lockdown-after-shooting-at-dorm-kills-2
from the NPR article
It appears that his parents were the victims
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43262245
A sad day, and I expect there were plenty of warning signs before this happened
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He's black so he won't be hard to spot in Mt Pleasant!
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I was going to ask whether this was on a CMU campus in Detroit...after the Coward County fiasco at Parkland (the SD and the schools were hiding evidence of crimes in order to get grant money: Cruz should have been arrested several times over previously, but the policy prevented dealing with him...), I would think there would be similar problems with either the government or the university in dealin with this kid
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Nope... Mt Pleasant. My son works there (not at the U). You're right, this kid was just a murder waiting to happen, but CMU has always bent over backwards for blacks. That kid doesn't look like he should have made it past the 6th grade, but I'm sure he has a 3.0 at CMU!!! He's probably hiding out at Joyce Baugh's house!
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I know we're playing semantics here... but this isn't so much a "school shooting" as much as its a "shooting at a school".
While subtle, the difference is massive. To say "school shooting" gives the implication that someone is running around the campus targeting students.
What actually happened is far from that... 3 non-students in a dorm get into a domestic dispute and one shoots the other 2.
While it's still sad and unfortunate that this is how they handled the situation, it's a far cry from the implied version that someone was running around campus shooting students.
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Definitely not semantics. Thanks for drawing the distinction, @kbarrett
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Well said.
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I can bet that american government won't do anything to restrict personal weapon law.Now they are in a trap the gun manufacturer organization is so powerful in america that peoples voice will be over looked.Its very pathetic.
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Let me fix that for you
The armed American people is so powerful that leftist trash voices will be overlooked.
Molon Labe
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Boom. Well said. Here was my response:
@rupok - everything you know about the gun issue in America, you've learned from the media, who are enemies of gun ownership in America. Here's the truth: the gun manufacturers are not powerful. Even the NRA is not powerful, compared to the 90 million-plus gun owners - this number doesn't include the associated families of the gun owners who, while not personally owning a gun, benefit from the safety derived from gun ownership. It is we gun-owners and our family members who are so powerful in America, that anti-gun organizations crumble every time the American people challenge their calls for gun control. But this is the difference between being a citizen, and being a subject (slave) of your government. We in America prefer to be citizens. And it is our right to gun ownership that defines being a citizen, and that protects all of our other rights. Gun ownership was not intended for hunting, or even home-defense. It was intended (read the constitution and our declaration of independence), to defend against tyranny. I don't get angry at non-Americans for their views against gun ownership. It's a cultural difference. People who have lived for centuries (or millenia) under rule of kings and emperors, don't understand what it's like to live as free men. Regards, Texagonia
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my response might have been a little contemptuous, but I'm tired of these people dancing in the blood of the victims
and then they get mad when we expect them to think like free men, at the same time they expect us to think like serfs
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Shapiro, who I'm not really a fan of, said it best, "Shame on you for standing on the graves of dead children for partisan political gain."
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Nailed it.
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The US has a very thorough and strict procedure for obtaining guns. Don't know what you mean.
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Nor should they. It isn't guns doing the killings it's people. What do you think if guns disappear people will stop killing each other??? Didn't work very well before guns were invented!
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Civilians are already not permitted to bring guns onto campuses.
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@rupok - everything you know about the gun issue in America, you've learned from the media, who are enemies of gun ownership in America. Here's the truth: the gun manufacturers are not powerful. Even the NRA is not powerful, compared to the 90 million-plus gun owners - this number doesn't include the associated families of the gun owners who, while not personally owning a gun, benefit from the safety derived from gun ownership. It is we gun-owners and our family members who are so powerful in America, that anti-gun organizations crumble every time the American people challenge their calls for gun control. But this is the difference between being a citizen, and being a subject (slave) of your government. We in America prefer to be citizens. And it is our right to gun ownership that defines being a citizen, and that protects all of our other rights. Gun ownership was not intended for hunting, or even home-defense. It was intended (read the constitution and our declaration of independence), to defend against tyranny. I don't get angry at non-Americans for their views against gun ownership. It's a cultural difference. People who have lived for centuries (or millenia) under rule of kings and emperors, don't understand what it's like to live as free men. Regards, Texagonia
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I you are from any other country look at your own history and tell me if taking away a peoples ability to defend themselves from the government was ever a good thing. In the USA we have a Constitution with 27 amendments. The 2nd amendment is the right to keep and bear arms. To nullify that amendment would take 38 states of the 50 states to ratify. If you look at a demographic map of the United States https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/learning/red-and-blue-map-2016.html
the blue states would likely vote for repeal of the 2nd amendment and the red states would likely vote against repeal. That is why talk of gun control is just that, talk. What we have in the US is a failure to enforce laws. Keep watching the news about this particular shooting and see if the person responsible obtained the weapon legally. This is, however, all logical and most people who make decisions based on emotions rarely respect a logical thought process.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that a gun ban would punish people who have never broken any laws. The process of punishing one group of people for the crimes of another group of people is called reprisal. Reprisal is immoral in most civilized cultures.
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Interesting response coming from someone that lives in Bangladesh. Countries like yours is the reason we have the 2nd Amendment built into our constitution.
So the next time you want to start talking about taking guns away from the American people, do yourself a favor and take a look at your own country for the reason why we allow it in the first place.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- Ben Franklin
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Nice picture. Is a great school,very beautiful.
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I think there should be need for GUN reforms
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And @candystuff - what "gun reforms" do you propose? Think: how you can implement these reforms in a way without restricting gun ownership by law-abiding citizens. Because if you don't, we will defeat any attempt anyone tries. I want you to look at another factor: The common thread among all mass-killings in the last 20 years: the killer was on - or had recently stopped taking - prescription psychoactive pharmaceuticals (anti-depressants, anti-psychotics) - all of which have admitted side-effects of "psychotic breaks, suicidal thoughts, homocidal ideation, disconnection from reality." The gun is not the problem. Crazy drugs are the problem. Now, Candystuff, why don't you have any posts? Get busy and share your life with us.
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Here are my suggested gun reforms.
I cannot see some suggestions like gun registration being workable.
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Thanks Buddy... saved me from having to say it!
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Are you fucking joking we just had a college shooting at CMU Central Montcalm University.
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maybe I should read the whole post hahah
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