Institutional Evil: Why it Will Ultimately Fail, and How to Defeat it.

everittdmickey (73) · 6 years ago

I have long been convinced that institutions are the primary vector for evil in the world.
That's one way of describing it.
I agree.
institutions cannot fail to be corrupted
right again

today technology promises to eradicate the power of institutions to impact the quality of life individuals.

yup..and it's happening at an incredible, accelerating rate.

Eventually, all we have to do to defeat institutional evil is ignore it until it goes away.

I've been saying that for years.

Technology isn't the enemy. It is salvation.

Sing it BROTHER!

Truer words have never been spoken.

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empress-eremmy (65) · 6 years ago

Couldn't agree more. Technology is our defence. The rise of blockchain is just an example and a testament to that fact

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funbobby51 (59) · 6 years ago (edited)

there have not been any scandals related to any blockchains?

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funbobby51 (59) · 6 years ago

With an app on my phone I can detect my position, monitor my health, and xfer currency across the world, all without the need for institutions that have historically been necessary to actively provide those services.

The app developer is not an institution most likely a fairly large corporation?
The phone company/ISP is not a huge international institution?
The android or iPhone store where you downloaded the app is not a huge international institution?
The manufacturer of your phone is not a huge institution?
you didn't use US government GPS satellites created launched and maintained by the United States government taxpayers to geolocate yourself?

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valued-customer (67) · 6 years ago

In almost all cases the points you are making are completely valid, but even so, those particular capabilities are examples of those powers being delivered to individuals through technology, despite the desire and active intentions of institutions to maintain their power..

I do not claim that the transformation we are undergoing has not developed through institutional power and control of society and technology, but that technology is transferring that power to individuals, and always has.

Thus, the pic.

My point is not that extant technology is the result of the freedom technology will bring, but that freedom will ensue despite the best efforts of institutions to prevent it, and that technology will continue to burgeon thereafter.

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funbobby51 (59) · 6 years ago

there will always be institutions and institutions will be run by people and people will either respond by either a fight or flight response when faced with a threat, in an institution this takes the form of the choice to either cover it up or face the music when some individual or group associated with the institution fucks something up, perhaps someday technology will make it impossible to cover things up but we are a long way from there.

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valued-customer (67) · 6 years ago

Do see my reply to @soo.chong163 regarding this topic on this very post. IIRC, when confronted with a drunken knife-wielding belligerent, my response was neither fight nor flight. I remember saying "So, you're gonna stick me because YOU have a big mouth."

I suspect you infer the same responses in others you see in yourself. I reckon that's inaccurate at best. I also know that society is using it's new technological abilities - to surveil, for example - profitably.

This is not gonna happen. It's already mostly happened, and we're still figgerin' out how it changed everything.

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funbobby51 (59) · 6 years ago

in that case you choose "fight", I suppose "go limp" or "play dead" is an option for possums but those are not typical human responses. Standing your ground and responding is a "fight" response even if you didn't start swinging.

I suspect you infer the same responses in others you see in yourself.

You have really never heard of the flight or flight response?

It's already mostly happened, and we're still figgerin' out how it changed everything.

Says the guy who believes there is a worldwide conspiracy to lie about the effectiveness of vaccines.

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valued-customer (67) · 6 years ago

"... there is a worldwide conspiracy to lie about the effectiveness of vaccines."

Sigh. Is it impossible for you to not twist my words? Safe is not a synonym for effective. Profitable is not a synonym for scientifically superable.

Mocking my assailant is neither synonymous for fighting them.

Lies expose the truth they attempt to conceal when they are themselves exposed. I appreciate the opportunities you offer me to make that exposure facile. Please continue!

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funbobby51 (59) · 6 years ago (edited)

my bad, there is a worldwide conspiracy to lie about the safety of vaccines, is that better? To be fair you have often claimed that vaccines are not effective either.

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gabriel90sson (52) · 6 years ago

All hail the potential liberating power of technology

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miklpat (31) · 6 years ago

i guess its in the air i just wrote, not as eloqently, the same thing! :)

jasonliberty (68) · 6 years ago

You're so right, technology not the enemy, it's the institutions who misuse it against us. "Everything meant for good, is being used for evil. Flawed technology, universal dichotomy...everything used for evil, satan's world is equipped." - K Rino, Flawed Technology

stevescoins (68) · 6 years ago

sorry i'm not giving you a better comment on the overall article, b ut the part about drones kind of focused me on a discussion about drone warfare by ISIS on /k last night

[a moment while I see if the link is up]
http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/39006118

tldr?
ground troops are already carrying around jammers keyed into drone command frequencies...yes, that can be got around...until the EW folks pick up the new freqs

warfare is constant evolution ;>

Freedom is the inevitable result of scientific progress

all free men fight
all fighting men are free

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soo.chong163 (53) · 6 years ago

I fail to understand how anarchy and chaos will be an improved condition for men to exist. Men need to be governed, otherwise human civilization will collapse into fragmented, starving, mindless prides of beasts with the only capacity to destroy everything they touch. Grant power to the muck, and within six-months, mankind will witness the rapid degeneration of human civilization into piles of rubble, as the ill-educated, over-emotional, ungoverned rabble burn and consume everything in their aimless path. Slaves make for poor masters, and freedom for the untrained is more a curse than a blessing.

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valued-customer (67) · 6 years ago

Two weeks ago tomorrow I was confronted by an armed assailant. Folks visiting family dissuaded the assailant from executing an attack, multiple personal surveillance systems captured the confrontation, and satisfied the landlady that the assailant needed to be banned from the park.

Government did not become involved at all, and no muck were injured in the preservation of my life and all our freedom. I submit you dramatically underestimate free men.

Here, in Pacific City, we are already making the transition from 'muck' to sovereign and independent people. I am confident this is happening all over the world, and is not confined to my little village.

I dispute your speculations based on my experience, and am glad my own life is a testament to the beneficence of freedom to members of society.

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soo.chong163 (53) · 6 years ago

What you describe is nothing more than fragmented tribalism, under which system, personal/family vendettas continue on for generations. The so-called "freedom" illustrated above results in nothing more than fractured humanity living in tribal isolation. African tribalism has resulted in the mismanagement of once prosperous regions of that unfortunate continent; how can such future be ever preferable to the current nation-state institutional system that has provided security and luxury for its subjects?

From whence does your "landlady" derive the privilege of disbursing "her" property, if not from the state/crown? Without the state/crown to enforce and legitimize property "rights," there can not even be such concept as "private property." Can a man claim "rights" to earth that he did not create, resources that he did not embed, creatures that he did not quicken? Without the power of the state/crown to enforce its arbitrary legal matrix of property disbursement, no man has any legitimacy to any property. Men ought to give credit where it is due, and dues when it is demanded.

valued-customer (67) · 6 years ago

"...What you describe is nothing more than fragmented tribalism..."

You either fail to grasp what I report, or misconstrue it. The relationships treated aren't familial, tribal, or political. The results are simply natural consequences of nascent technological development empowering individuals to protect themselves from oppression, and demonstrate the fallacy of your subsequent commentary.

"Can a ~~man~~ institution claim "rights" to earth that he did not create, resources that he did not embed, creatures that he did not quicken?"

I hope that minor correction dispels your misapprehension.

Thanks!

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