We need to stop pretending Antifa is doing anything good anymore. Yes, I get the appeal that they are "fighting" fascism, but they've become precisely what they claim to be against, and it's utterly disgusting.
In case you don't know, the protests in Portland got really nasty and "the milkshaking" of fascists, ended up in a gay vietnamese/american journalist being sent to the hospital with multiple injuries. Whats worse is that there are some idiots defending the actions of these domestic terrorists (let's call them what they are) saying that Andy Ngo had it coming.
Wut?
Well, you see, in the mind of a hate blinded idiot who believes himself/herself to be a hero, Andy Ngo has the wrong t-shirt on. He works for Breitbart, and as we all know Breitbart = Bad.
I wish I was joking, I wish I was being satirical, but no, I'm not, not even a little bit. The idea here, or more accurately, what hey are claiming is that they are just distributing justice, and that since Andy Ngo is a provocateur he should have known better than to provoke.
Again.... WHAT? So, what you are saying to me is that if someone says things that hurt your feelings, the it's entirely OK to break their skull open? Is that really what you are saying. What is happening with our youth? I'm becoming an old man, or what the hell is going on?
Listen, I'm not a pacifist, I don't think that in the name of peace we should not defend ourselves against a threat, but let me be absolutely clear. Andy Ngo was not, and is not a threat, and I'm saying this as someone who dislikes him and Breitbart strongly.
This is a tragedy, but not only because a journalist got hurt, but more so because the noble idea of fighting injustice has been taken over by kids with mental parasites.
MenO
I know nothing about this guy, but any violence is bad. I hear about the term 'antifa', but who do they really represent? It seems there are always thugs around who use politics, sport or whatever as an excuse to beat people up. They may not actually care about the cause. They should be disowned by anyone they claim to represent. Of course you have a president who encourages attacks on the media, so some blame lies there. Shameful to see him joking about this with Putin when journalists in Russia are being murdered.
I've been considering a post on the 'fake news' theme, but I am no expert on that. What I do know is that suppression and discrediting of the media are the techniques of dictators. Journalists all over the world are imprisoned, beaten up or worse for trying to report on what goes on. I may not like what Breitbart stand for, but attacking their people is just wrong. I hope those responsible are brought to justice. Fight them with words, not fists.
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Typical liberal jargon trying to pacify a violent thug group as mere troublemakers looking for a reason to cause trouble. Fact is though that troublemakers don't don in a specific dress style by the hundreds, sound para-militarized by shouting out fall back commands during protest, sending out tweets that say they realized some may not be able to engage but to show up to support the cause (meaning if you can physical fight then fight), pre-planning to add quick dry cement to milkshakes to throw at people are all signs of a domestic terrorist group out to terrorize people over differing view. Watch some of of the video clips from this past protest and in it you will see there are no other people in the crowds involved in the scuffles, violence hiding their identities and that's because they went there to hold a rally in support of each other to express themselves in a peaceful manner, there was no reason to hide who they were as they weren't coming to be engaged in fighting.
It's easy to want to lay blame on a US president who mocks the press. There's a huge difference between mocking the press over inaccurate, slanderous, bias interpretations of stories and actually jailing, beating, and killing reporters. Maybe before you lay the blame at the presidents feet why don't we look at the number of Hollywood liberals over the years who have assaulted the press, you may want to start with Alex Baldwin as he is famous for it.
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I do not excuse anyone for committing violence. No jargon required. Call me any names you want ;)
I think you will find plenty of evidence of fascist groups attacking people, so it goes both ways and should not be considered acceptable by anyone.
Who was the president who said he admires someone who can bodyslam a journalist and gets his crowds riled up against any (non-Fox) journalists at his rallies. It's easy to find some 'liberal' (by whatever definition) celebrities who get into fights, but I can empathise a bit when the press hounds you all the time. Nobody is perfect and they should be punished for it. The most powerful man on earth needs to pick his words very carefully as others may act on them.
I consider Trump a bully who gets others to do his dirty work and who cosies up to other bullies. The most dangerous bully is one with the nuclear button. Just my opinion.
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I don't consider calling someone a liberal name calling, if you are a Antifa member I can see getting upset being called a terrorist.
That's exactly what happened with that reporter, Rep Gianforte got tired of being hounded, he offered the reporter two viable options to his question but not now and the reporter push on. I don't think he should have won the election the next day, violence isn't the answer to anything and it shouldn't be rewarded, especially among well known individuals, if they can't stand the heat they shouldn't jump in the frying pan. I don't agree with Trump making such a statement, being such a news buff and blogger you'd thought I had seen that before now. I think a lot of what he says or has said in the past was to gain media attention and focus, it's hard to get out front being the mouse in the room. Other times I think he just loves trolling the press, which is a more sensible way to send them into a frenzy. I actually enjoy a president who lies right back at those who've sold us out and lied to our faces for decades, they, in my opinion, have just made society a more dangerous place for everyone as people scramble to survive after losing good paying jobs and benefits not to mention those who were already struggling on low wage jobs prior to millions of others losing theirs, desperate people do desperate things.
Trump has not been soft on Russia, Iran or N Korea, if it was left up to the regular status quo the world would always be a more dangerous place, I whole heartedly agree that an open dialogue is the better route to go then to war where thousands of people who don't agree with their government anyway will be the causalities, slowing those aggression's are better than fostering them.
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I'm not a part of any group, but I have supported some peaceful protests. Is Antifa an organisation? I don't know anyone involved with it.
The media is not one thing and you have to decide who you trust. There are those who control a lot of it who have their own agendas, as do the politicians. Adding more lies to the mix does not help, but it may be part of a strategy to cause more confusion. It looks to me as if Trump just makes shit up and then his people have to justify it, but maybe he is playing '3d chess'. He seems to care more about his ego than anything else. It's bizarre, but his Twitter feed will keep psychologists busy for decades.
UK politics is fucked up too :(
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'Merica! SMH.
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Wow, it's really turning into the hunger games over there isn't it. All the elites have to do now is remove cash from circulation and divide you all up into zones while they party on in the capital.
If people don't stop buying all this left right propaganda (which is all communism divide and conquer BS) and unite against the elites we're all fucked.
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Hate to tell you this brother but they have not become what they say they are against. They have always been that. They are using a saul alinsky tactic of claiming the other side is doing what your doing. They are being violent by speaking about something we disagree with which then they claim gives them the right to beat up or burn down stuff. They know what they are doing and then get a pass because they claim victim. They got in fight with members of the Proud Boys (by fight I mean attacked because it's on video) and now those men that defended themselves are facing charges while the majority of masked hoods (criminals) are not. I am sorry but if you claim to be against fascism but your solution is to attack people to shut them up you should be fighting the mirror. This extends to media such as Vox which endorse milkshaking of people when thats just plan assault. Grow up and be adults. Just my view and totally agree that this particular case is just another of many. They will play victim as you have noted already because a shirt. Appreciate it buddy!
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