Well look. Probably something like 90% of the world cooks it's meat, outside of like some rare cultures who aren't very healthy like the Inuit. Virtually all of our restaurants and experts stress the importance of cooking your meat to avoid getting sick, sushi has sort of been an exception, though.. I would say is not widespread in the US. So.. I think it's pretty fringe, and to most people it is bizarre. I'm pretty sure that's what I said in my OP.
How do you know your raw meat is safe, when sometimes worms and parasites and stuff like that even survive cooking?
Also.. Can you tell me what studies you have that show that eating raw meat is healthy?
The Inuit, by the way, were reasonably healthy on their mostly animal diet. Since the introduction of wheat, soda, pizza and other plant-based foods, their health has plummeted, with increasing diabetes, heart attacks and strokes.
Thats how I could write that if I were to write it as you put your side of the debate.
The reality is that overconsumption is the problem - not whether the stuff that is being overconsumed is plant-based or animal based.
In addition to overconsumption, there is the issue of contamination and spoilage, which is also true of both.
Ultimately, the solution is not to binge on animal fat or on plant starches, either of which is more or less unhealthy if taken to excess, and which will keep you short of vitamins,
The answer is to eat a balanced diet, not too much of anything.
We should eat, as Michael Pollan writes, "Food, Not too much, Mostly plants".
Thats it. We need to cut down on animal fats and on plant starches, we need to get enough minerals and vitamins, and we need some protein, some good fats, and some starch.
As long as you dont skew your diet too far one way or another, you'll be OK.
The big killers are overeating and imbalance.
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The Inuit have horrible health, horrible bone problems, horrible heart health, they die young.. If you wanna model your health on that.. I dunno what to say, look unbiased studies, not the ones which were cherry picked for the Paleo fad.
A lot of this was determined before all that stuff you mentioned.. Back in like.. 1970 I think? Or maybe even earlier. They aren't healthy, there's never been an unbiased study showing they were.
It's funny you blame plants on all of that but don't mention any animal products.. It seems like you're biased and not interested in a real discussion.
According to studies anything more than like 10% animal protein becomes a problem.. So.. Yeah.. It's like smoking a cig once and a while versus being a chain smoker, but it's not healthy.
You probably won't get cancer if you eat meat once and a while, but if you chain eat it, much better odds!
This is specific to ANIMAL PROTEIN, NOT PLANT PROTEIN.
If you eat meat more than like once a week, you're probably eating too much.
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"If you eat meat more than like once a week, you're probably eating too much."
You need some perspective. Bacon is one of the worst meats out there..
"As Cancer Research UK points out in an astute blog, colorectal cancer is itself relatively rare. If you eat barely any meat, there is a 5.6% risk of developing the disease over your lifetime; even if you pig out on bacon and ham every day, it only rises to about 6.6%. In other words, for every 100 people who stop eating bacon, only one will have avoided cancer. To put that in perspective, consider the figures for tobacco: for every 100 smokers who give up, 10-15 lives may be saved. The two are hardly comparable." http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151029-are-any-foods-safe-to-eat-anymore-heres-the-truth
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All the meats he described are cured meats when aren't actually raw by definition. As for fish that is fairly safe to eat raw if you don't take into account heavy metal bioaccumialtion.
I'm currently vegan but recent reading has made me question my diet. Many of the foods I eat to replace what I would get from meat has lectins in them. This includes the nightshade family, beans, soy, root vegetables and many more. Lectins are endocrine disrupters that effect hormone regulation and can cause mental health issues and even shrinking of the brain. This has led me on a path to figuring out if I can still maintain a vegan diet while staying away from foods with lectin in it.
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"All the meats he described are cured meats when aren't actually raw by definition."
You have a funny definition of "Raw". Beef jerky is dried raw meat.
I think of "raw" as "uncooked", not "undried".
Silly me.
I cheerfully eat raw beef. Raw, as in undried, uncooked, although I do add salt for flavor.
This entire argument is absurd. meat and vegetables can both be spoiled. In many cases, people prefer them to be spoiled. There are those nasty "bury a fish-head on the beach" foods, and there are the fermented (rotted) vegetable foods. Chacun a son gout. Chinese people eat "thousand-year-old-eggs" and "stinky tofu" (yuk).
And then there is Natto.
Basically, fermented protein is highly stinky. Whether that is stinky cheese, cheese with maggots in it, sharkmeat thats been rotted for months, soybeans that have been rotted, fish that have been rotted as fish sauce - its all highly stinky.
Fermented carbs, if you are lucky, just go sour. If unlucky, you are talking aflatoxins. You know those dented cans that can kill you?
The take home is this: bacteria can kill or cure. The difference between probiotic and killer toxin is the toss of a coin. Badly canned tomatoes? Dicing with death, not dicing tomatoes.
This is not an argument between meat and veg, its an argument about which bugs will kill you and which wont. Its a debate on food hygiene, and whether its best to kill all bacteria or to eat "live foods".
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Beef jerky is a meat that is hard dried. All the moisture is taken out of it and can last for several years. You can brine and cure bacon for several years as well in salt and water. Once you want to use it you have to wash of the salt.
Do you really think this guy buys salami, keeps it at room temperature and waits 4 months before eating it? He's likely buying groceries every week like most modern people and isn't eating meat outside it's date.
Can you also tell me what statistic you got the 90% of all meat eaten is cooked and the fact that all restaurants stress the importance of cooked meat. Last time I checked most places offered blue rare that are steakhouses.
I'm on mobile ATM but I can show you how most of the vegetables you eat are not good for your body either (I mentioned it in my last comment)
What I think we have here is an interpretation problem. We have an infinite amount of facts at our disposable to prove both points.
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