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The Undefined Self
7 years ago by clayboyn (70)
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"The undefined self has no need to judge anything and it can love completely as it appreciates it's own self and respects the other. There is no competition to exist as we all exist. Our differences are just the contrast that give everything definition and meaning."
Yes...and thanks for our discussion earlier...it helped so much...I have a lot of work to do.
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Any time. <3
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Trying to remember where it was said. But a little while ago I heard 'choose your philosophy before it chooses you' Im still working on mine!
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Not a bad idea actually. A lot of people default to cynicism or stoic philosophy due to society.
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Hello there Clayboyn, were you saying that this undefined self/observer is also the do-er?
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It can be. :)
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I think that you are referring to the "witness" position although I could be wrong. The witness is not the do-er, the witness just "is", as in your attention. The perceived doer is the ego as in the sense of "I". Again, we may be thinking about something different.
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Right, but who is the do-er when you do something without thinking? Walk into a room and can't remember what you were doing? I think of the ego as more of a narrator at this point and I often find it's commentary humerus.
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So, when you walk into the room without consciously thinking about it who is the do-er? Who walked in the room? You did, the sense of "I" is the do-er, your body, etc. The witness doesn't change no matter what arises or does not arise. Think of you attention, as it is. What part of the ego is attached to it? It's just eternally now. It becomes distracted by the different distractions of the mind but it is not associated with any of your egoic tendencies or narration you mention.
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I like the first question best. Who is the do-er? Do they exist at all? The "I" is just a construct of our self perception. It doesn't make it any more or less real. I think trying to define consciousness is just another part of the human condition that we can't fully escape while still having the experience. If we aren't the "I" that is the construct of our thoughts and perceptions then who are we really? :)
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That's the great question my friend! I think that Dr. Suess said it best in one of his books (I think the Grinch stole Christmas) it was something like "he's not a Who, he's more like a What"
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If only people would grasp this truth, the world would be a better place (in my opinion)
Your piece is just along the lines of the piece I've been trying to develop. It's based on a quote I heard from my philosophy lecturer but can't remember. Something about everyone being born to see the world the same way then bespectacled by our environment and upbringing.
With the risk of drifting off your piece, I dare say that perception is more powerful than anything else.
When one realises that everything is only a matter of perspective, they become more tolerant of themselves and others and also find it easier to shed off the things they want no more in their lives
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I hear ya, we can't be the actor without the set or the supporting cast. It's all necessary.
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Incredible composition! Gratitude for sharing 😀
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Most times, the more we want to change ourselves and remove the reflection imbibed in us by our environment and society, it's the more we sink into this mire.
Most times, we watch as observer, when our real self take actions that does not really define who we are inside.
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