RE: A Collision of Forces: The Spiral Dance of Capitalism, Communism, and Fascism... Buzzwords and Labels Unite

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A Collision of Forces: The Spiral Dance of Capitalism, Communism, and Fascism... Buzzwords and Labels Unite

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

your post is so long that it'd take ten posts just as long to properly comment on it.
so I'll comment on ONE point...you said
allowing ISPs to restrict which sites and content their customers are permitted to see. That doesn't sound particularly good to me, yet that was just the first stone in the path to this wiggly idea I have going on.

So called 'net neutrality' in other words. Government regulations.

Rule of thumb. Regulations are BAD...
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"..
riiiiight.

Leave the people that built their OWN stuff alone...if you don't like it build something your self.
meshnet comes to mind.

it's really in your own best interests to do so.
Government is stupid. If they regulate an industry full of NOT Stupid people then regulatory capture happens....EVERY TIME.

So...if you want what you say you want..then you do NOT want government regulations...of any kind...you want free market competition....

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Yep. I agree with you. I just try different methods to lead people in that direction. I never know which ones might resonate with people and which will not. So when my mind seems to be plodding in a new direction I tend to let it have a bit of freedom for a bit just to see what might come from it. It doesn't always work out. :)

furthermore..
“The first initial start-up capital for Amazon.com came primarily from my parents, and they invested a large fraction of their life savings in what became Amazon.com. And you know, that was a very bold and trusting thing for them to do because they didn’t know. My dad’s first question was, “What’s the Internet?” Okay. So he wasn’t making a bet on this company or this concept. He was making a bet on his son, as was my mother. So, I told them that I thought there was a 70 percent chance that they would lose their whole investment, which was a few hundred thousand dollars, and they did it anyway.”

this was in 94..he was thirty years old.

ok...go for it...compete.

Yep, initially he was. Back in the early days when it was just books and such.

Many ideas seem to begin with "free market" concepts. If they do well it seems to quickly change, but I blame that on government.

I blame everything bad on government...it's holding us back.
You think you've seen change?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
What's gonna happen when high resolution, multi feedstock 3D printers hit the market?

Heh. Hard to say. Depends upon how available they are and how affordable. Yet, I'd expect a huge change none the less.

I can already envision scenarios they'll try to use to become the gatekeeper you must go through in order to use them.

when you were born how available and how affordable were computers?
how available and how affordable are they now?
do computers require a gatekeeper? does the internet?

I didn't say it required a gatekeeper. I said I could envision them trying to make themselves a gatekeeper.

As to computers... my first one was pretty affordable but also very limited. Timex sinclair with 2K RAM. :)

Though I get what you are saying.

My 2nd computer was actually less expensive than ones I get today, though they might be compareable in price when I factor in inflation of the monetary system. My money was worth more then, so it translates to a higher price today.

The variety is a lot higher though. :)

not what I asked.
how big and how affordable were computers when you were BORN?

The internet is a good example. It doesn't require a gatekeeper, but they are trying to make it so we are required to go through one anyway.

net neutraility...isn't.

Net neutrality is there to PREVENT gatekeepers. That is why so many corps are against NN.
Because without NN they will be able to charge you extra. For Twitter just 5$!
You want to access netflix? Great, get our video pakcet! Netflix and Youtube just 10$
Steemit? Full steem for 20$!

Except the last that is all things that I have already seen.

So called 'net neutrality' in other words. Government regulations. Rule of thumb. Regulations are BAD...

Yes, traffic rules are bad. Because if there weren't none, we could all drive like we wanted! Nobody to yield for! Yeah!

And who needs food safety standards? After the first 100 dead people the company will lose so much reputation they will lose sales and will have to change their brand name!

I have respect for different views, but this holy zealot stupidity is just that: stupid.

Also assuming that people can't do those things without some government entity forcing them to do it is STUPID.

So you are just as much a zealot. I just don't worship the state, recognize their "appeal to authority" as proving anything... and treating something as absurd is an appeal to the stone fallacy. At least if you just say it and don't prove it.

That said... yes, we each can have our own views. I could consider you stupid for yours as you could consider me stupid for mine.

Yet I don't. I realize that someone not agreeing with my point of view doesn't necessarily have anything to do with stupidity.

How do people prevent $Company from charging you extra for free speech websites? Storm their company headquarter with assault rifles?

No, that would be an attack on property!