RE: There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

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There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

Actually most people do small crimes all the time. they simply don't get caught.

Also most people are religious so they believe in free will and some kind of eternal punishment.

Now, remove institution of punishment and you will get chaos.

Norway disagrees with you

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Actually most people do small crimes all the time. they simply don't get caught.
Yes, that is because they learned they can do it on a small scale.
Also most people are religious so they believe in free will and some kind of eternal punishment
Of course, the idea of punishment can play a causal role even transcended.
Norway disagrees with you
How? Don't they have prisons? Don't they have punishment system? Your Norway argument would have a sense just in case there is no punishment system in Norway at all. By the way economy is so good there, that motivation for crime is much smaller, than, say, in Brasil

Their prisons are better than any of the apartments I ever lived. More like luxurious camping sites. The whole point is rehabilitation. not punishment.

It is still a punishment. This shit with pool is still a cage. By the way, try to implemet that system in Equador, Brasil, Columbia. It would be absurd.
Simple example, what if I want to kill you, and the only thing why actually I didn't kill you yet is my fear of punishment. Of being locked for 20 years. Of not actualizing my possibilities in a free world. Of wasting my life. If in Norway I can kill you + state reward me with rehab vacation, then, man, you better start running right now. If on the other hand, this Norway prison is still a cage, maybe beautiful cage, but a cage, then, you know, you still can feel safe, because I don't wanna sit in a cage no matter if it is golden.

Again, prisons never solved the problem of crime. anywhere in the world. if it was working we would be seeing less people inside prisons..not more.

Oh, I agree, but I just said punishment plays a BIG role in prevention, not the only one. Like I said 10% of the population would do crime anyway because they think they are smarter than the system. And there are many other variables. But in those circumstances removing punishment would just make things worse. And again, I think this Norway prison is still a cage. Something people don't want to go freely. Something where they are brought and pushed into. So it is still a punishment. It is still a cage.

fair enough