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Everybody wants freedom. Freedom of speech, movement, choice. Freedom to have the opportunity to succeed. But, when it comes to failure, we want to be protected. If people say what we don't like, we want a safe zone, if people arrive we don't like, we want borders, if we choose poorly, we want support. When it comes to our freedom, we want it when there is upside for us but do not want to experience the downside.

I want it all, I don't want to pay

Many here at Steemit for example want a range of freedoms so they can say and do what they want. When it comes to cryptocurrencies for example, the freedom to do what they will without government intervention and regulation so they can take advantage of the situation and profit. What happens if they calculate incorrectly, the market collapses, they buy into scam coins and get burned? Will they wear the responsibility of failure or will they turn to their government for support to survive?

Should the governments support those who have acted freely? This is far from my wheelhouse area but I also want the freedom to choose what I do and how I use what I have but, I am also an advocate for responsibility of action. When I speak freely, I do not expect protection from the words of others, if I act poorly, I accept the consequences and if I choose badly, I do not assume I am entitled to support.

I am not saying that I will refuse help if it arrives in the advent of my failing but, in a free market, I understand I am entitled to nothing but the ability to act. The problems arise when people want protection within a free system as what these people do is impose limitations on others so that they can enjoy their freedoms. In other words, oppress the freedoms of some, to maximise their chances of success.

Rights without oppression

Imagine living alone on an island though where it is just you and the elements. What is right and wrong? This is not the way humans work in a social environment where everyone has a slightly different set of desires they are looking to satisfy however. The social fabric is woven by the rules of the group and in order to benefit from the group, one must wear some of the cloth.

Rules of humanity are always oppressive by definition as they limit possibility of individuals. The rules of nature look to maximise options, the rules of men are always less than that point. The restrict the freedom of nature in some way. Even the most basic of rules such as do not kill are limiting freedoms of nature as nature allows the act of killing in its rule set.

We actually live in a world already where killing is allowed yet in most places, it is punished by the rules of the group. The rule is one of the control mechanisms. And, even in the societies that punish murder, killing itself through other means is accepted as necessary. Humans contradict themselves a lot.

Illusive security

I do not think many of us want to live in a world where people are free to do whatever they want even if we are free to retaliate based on their actions. It would be a return to dark times indeed and would likely devolve us hundreds of generations.

But, this means that we are willing to accept protection and regulation across a vast number of areas so that we can walk the streets and feel somewhat secure. But, this security is an illusion for the rule set does not apply to all equally as some choose not to comply to the rules. Murders still exist even though murder is illegal.

Protection from failure or the failure of others is something we crave. If we manage to get out of a pyramid scheme at the top before it collapses, do we share our gains with those who were burned at the bottom? But if we were at the bottom, we want protection. If we buy into a scam, we want an authority to remunerate us and punish the scammer but we want ourselves to pay no cost.

As the investment philosophy says 'Never invest what you aren't willing to lose' and the reasoning is sound but doesn't just apply to the markets. There are many people fighting very hard for independence and freedoms but, are they willing to lose protection and security of mind? From the looks of things, I would suggest they are not.

Protect me 4 protect you

As I often reiterate for where I write and think, this is not my speciality but it is an area that we must navigate in a world that is increasingly fragmenting in the rules people are willing to live by. There are so many 'fights for freedoms' but the same people are also 'fighting for protection', often in the same breath.

Protection is not a natural right, it is a human rule. Nature and the universe does not protect you, me or anything else from negative experiences as those experiences are possible. What it does do however is give us the capacity to understand and choose to protect each other. What this means though is that in order to be protected, we must also be protectors. The upside is ours, as are the consequences of action.

I would be interested to hear people's thoughts and experiences on freedoms and lack thereof if they have thought about this a little. There are a lot things to consider in this area yet most think fast and only on the upside for themselves.

Taraz
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This is an interesting article. And there are always at least two sides to this. I have known people who prefer to live in a Communist system because they consider that then their very basic needs are covered (food, housing, health) and that is all they want. Then you have a different kind of people who want to try to do things their own way, people who are enterprising, adventurous, and communism falls short for them. People who want to try to succeed, despite the risk of failing.

There are also the majority people who lay somewhere in between who want both some protection and some freedom but also equality for all. There are many conflicts in our various views and ways to approach freedoms.

Sometimes people see that freedom and security can't co-exist. Damn you all!

I want to be free to build my own fences to create my own safety! Ha-ha!

I agree, you should be free to do so.

One problem with "freedom to do so".. sometimes people are walking the line between safety and freedom. Typically they want freedom, but restrict freedom of others to gain own safety.

However then people will explain freedom with safety. "If you want to be free, we'll have to ban these things for your safety!"

I have no idea how people can make things so complicated.

responsibility for your actions, and be ready to fail is something that is necessary. great post!

Amazing post!!! You are creative ...I have followed you and upvoted your post...thank you ;)

I personally am a supporter of rule of law and regulations, of course, only when done reasonably well.

Before we delve deep into those subjects, we have to realize we don't and can't live in a perfect world, and any system and social organization comes with its own pros and cons and there is always a give and take.

Now, when it comes to cryptocurrency, I see very little need for regulation and law enforcement intervention but there are two things I thinks should be illegal and prosecutable in regard to this market - fraud and theft. If you are making a fraudulent ICO that is in fact a pyramid, you are a criminal and you deserve some punishment. Now while I think crimes should be prosecuted and punished, I'm not sure that it's the state's job to give you reparations for things you have been scammed out of or things that have been stolen from you.

I absolutely agree that if you are making a risky investment, you are assuming the risk and thus should not be protected by some central fund mitigating your losses or something. But I do think some protections like knowing that fraudsters would be prosecuted is something that makes the whole market more stable and reliable and would not be a bad thing.

Still, with crytocurrencies being international and decentralized, regulation would be quite difficult and can't really be done well at the state level as coins essentially stateless assets. While knowing that fraud would be a prosecutable offense in regard to crytos, I would rather not have governments trying to regulate the market as I don't think many are equipped to do a good job.

Its an interesting mix for me. I enjoy "law" because it often cuts down on the amount of people you have to kill to secure your being, but then law in itself is only as good as those who inforce it. Also laws don't really work because murder is illegal yet people still get murdered as you point out, so I put no real faith in it, its just a man made thing.

I am a big fan of freedom, in a world of common sense there would be no law needed. I don't need a law to tell me its not cool to steal from you and no law has ever stopped me from doing something I wanted to do. Laws take effect only if you get caught.

Now in general I like some "free zones" since pretty much everything is regulated and often with many flaws since people are imperfect no rule set is perfect. I shy away from most laws and regulations since I view them as last resort type things that really only work in select cases and impede things, but do see the "need". I like some areas to be "danger anything that happens in here is your fault if you enter cause its not a safe zone" I would love that concept in many areas where possible, I think you can learn a lot in such places and if you don't like the idea don't enter.

In crypto if all of it dropped to zero as I type this i would still have profited and it is impossible for me to "lose" and my crypto philosophy will always remain as such. I do not like when people enter a zone with no "rules" then cry cause they got stomped.

To quote DMX "always know the rules of the game before you play it"

HmmM that is a really good point you brought up. One cannot coexist without the other... like ying yang... maybe people some people like the illusion of feeling free. With freedom comes responsibility and ownership.

Great read... lots of food for thought.

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Great post

When you take the freedom to do whatever you want to, at the same time you should be taking all the risks and potential pitfalls into account.
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If you're blogging about a certain topic that is important to your heart, after a year you might be very knowledgeable about it. you can use this in creating your next job so that you're able to crawl up easily.

i think for us, the occidental people, when we speak about freedom is like speaking about air - is a fact, we have it and we don't need to struggle in order to obtain it. freedom of speech, freedom of mevement, freedom of action i mean. with their obvious constrains. we have so much freedom nowadays throughout the technology as well, that we tent to forget it and not appreciate it anymore. and when we see the bigger picture, as examples in north korea or burma or so on, we can not even imagine what is happening over there. freedom is a fact for us and we take it for granted that we don't even take responsibilities anymore, we don't have this impulse to protect the others and the insure freedom in other places as well. or maybe yes.

i remember my favorite book in university was by far on liberty by john stuart mill and i was passionate about the subject. nowadays, i just get to tend getting less involved in liberty and more on social issues.

thank you for the open minded post, is good for our brains to read such things on steemit :)

Another great article @ tarazkp! We here @freedompoint have gotten to see some of this up close. Several years ago we moved away from a city to try our hand at being self sufficient. We chose to remove ourselves from"the game". We were very shocked at how many things are woven together in our society. It seemed that anytime he had to handle some sort of business we couldn't. We no longer had the tool to maneuver society. Our safety net was gone.