RE: Is Everything Blindly About Balance?

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Is Everything Blindly About Balance?

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

From a good book on this subject:

Judgments do not open space for improvement because they substitute criticism and the rigidity of labels for good advice and discernment.

Judgment is not the same thing as discernment. Discernment can
draw on past experience, but it also notices the differences.

Past experiences are a source of wisdom, but judgments give false wisdom
because they do not see the situation for what it really is. Judgments also
say that the next experience will be the same as the last experience. This
is the same as saying that nothing has been learned, and also that there is
nothing to learn that could change things for the better.
Judgments are rigid thought forms attached to the thinker. If you judge your experiences rather than understanding and accepting them, you lock the energy into rigid patterns of perception that take your focus away from what could help you grow. Each time the judgment is made again, and the emotions around it remain unmoved, or intensify, the thought form intensifies. For example, 'Tm not a nice person," is a judgment and a label in place of compassion and introspection that could realize why you could have this judgment against yourself.

Intense judgments are usually made amidst a wave of strong emotion when a person's usual sense of things is overwhelmed, and there is a feeling of needing to push back, "make sense of the situation," or define it. While judgments do label and structure the situation, and therefore, can give a person a sense of making sense of things, they are also limiting. In this way, feelings of not having enough understanding, or personal power, are compensated for by imposing misunderstandings and judgments that bring an illusion of understanding, power and control.

Judgments are not necessary steps on the way to understanding. Judgments obscure the ability to use discernment. Discernment in observation and evaluation, learning and experiencing can all take place without judgment. Judgments simplify and rigidify. Judgments are outside of time. They exist after the experience in which they were made, and when the judgments remain, they have the power to influence future experiences to conform to the judgments. This limits your possibilities.

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Judgments Bias and Prejudice do not open space for improvement because they substitute criticism and the rigidity of labels for good advice and discernment.

Learned you something today.

Judgments do not open space for improvement because they substitute criticism and the rigidity of labels for good advice and discernment.

Actually criticism and labels are discernment many times. Here are some definitions of judgement and you can tell me which ones apply to the above quote:

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/judgement

There are 7 senses to the word there, which ones would it be?

Judgment is not the same thing as discernment. Discernment can draw on past experience, but it also notices the differences.

Judgement is discernment. Saying that it isn't doesn't make it true. Sometimes I want to hit people over the head with a dictonary.

Putting something in a dictionary does not make it the most accurate understanding regarding the concept being defined.

Putting something in a dictionary is an accomplishment in it of itself. An established concept that has a LONG long long long history and understanding isn't "putting something in a dictionary". Bias, bro, that was the word you were looking, for, bias, prejudice.

Language is living and evolves along with understandings. If some people hold different understandings regarding concepts it is not right for them to be held back from updating definitions due to the rigid 'voice of authority' among those publishing books. Books can open the mind, but they are not much help if we are tied to them in a rigid way.

As you can see from the etymology of the word prejudice - prejudice is ultimately a word that means 'prior judgment'.

Bias refers to a similar form of judgement based thought that is closed and that denies aspects of reality as a result.

By noticing that prejudice IS judgement and that bias is essentially similar - we can see something more of the nature of judgements.

Similar but not the same, hence why it's not correct to say "nature of judgements" when you actually mean specifically NATURE OF BIAS, nature of PREJUDICE. Specificity. And words actually don't change. Mandela effect. It's not the authority of Books, their concepts are found in the most ancient texts, intact. Ideas don't Grow, ideas evolve through a morphing of human creation, the fact is that prejudice is a specific form of judgement, as is bias, which is why including the general concept as to mean the same thing is not correct, because that concept has not changed and will not change, but other concepts might be constructed on them. Language isn't anymore living than any other concept, it's static. Mandela effect again.

In the subject of definitions, what do you think is wiser to err on? the clear consensus as defined by a dictionary, or some new interpretation that has no establishment and as in this case, carelessly says one thing and can mean another, and without a doubt, it means another thing.

It's not possible for my reply here to have value while you are judging so heavily here ;)

You claim, but I don't believe you. What is the problem with prejudice and bias? What don't you like about them? Is there a problem with CTRL+R and replacing Judgement and Judge with Bias and Prejudice and the work actually SAYS what it means? Or you think that by convoluting and interpreting vaguely you're doing justice to anyone? O shit I included about 3 Trigger words, bet you won't reply now because after all, what value could I have, you can judge me as without value to my face because that's the entitlement of the new ages.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I guess there was so little room for Bias and Prejudice that Judgement had to be hijacked to describe the same fucking thing.

#PsIadmit

Do you have a problem with bias and prejudice and what their definition is?

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I am concerned with the mechanical construction of thoughtforms and hold the intention of being as accurate as I can be. I therefore release judgments when I find them and so that includes aiming to be unbiased and unprejudiced.

Here's an example: If we look at a piece of wood and wonder how many centimeters it is in length, we could judge it to be 5 or we could measure it and find out it is 6. Given that judgments always deny an aspect of reality, I intend to not participate in their use or creation.

If I was invited to a 'beauty contest' and was asked to judge 'who is the most beautiful' - I would, through describing the causes of their beauty and why I personally prefer those forms of beauty, be maybe able to state a preference, but I would not need to judge that 'she is more beautiful than the others' - beauty is subjective and much more deep than can be assessed in a beauty contest, so I would not belittle beauty itself by guessing at who has the most.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

You release biases and prejudices. Not judgements. Judgements are formed in the now. The meaning of words is what Law concerns itself with. Thought that would inspire even more hate for definitions so why not :D.

Here's an example: If we look at a piece of wood and wonder how many centimeters it is in length, we could judge it to be 5 or we could measure it and find out it is 6. Given that judgments always deny an aspect of reality, I intend to not participate in their use or creation.

You could also say that you judged kinda accurate, not that they deny an aspect of reality because their function is not to include all the aspects of reality is it? In the sense of judging, you might as well call it guessing, because that's what you did.

If I was invited to a 'beauty contest' and was asked to judge 'who is the most beautiful' - I would, through describing the causes of their beauty and why I personally prefer those forms of beauty, I would be maybe able to state a preference, but I would not need to judge that 'she is more beautiful than the others' - beauty is subjective and much more deep than can be assessed in a beauty contest, so I would not belittle beauty itself by guessing at who has the most.

Good luck releasing that judgment.

Vagueness is my enemy, observe:

Past experiences are a source of wisdom, but judgments give false wisdom because they do not see the situation for what it really is.

Why? and How? Asserting vacuous nonsense is my judgement, and it doesn't draw from "past experiences" but simple logic of if a is b and b is c than a is c.

Judgments also say that the next experience will be the same as the last experience. This is the same as saying that nothing has been learned, and also that there is nothing to learn that could change things for the better.

Why does judgement say that? and how?

Judgments are rigid thought forms attached to the thinker. If you judge your experiences rather than understanding and accepting them, you lock the energy into rigid patterns of perception that take your focus away from what could help you grow.

Actually, it depends on how you judge or discern your past experiences, it's not by default that you are a harsh critic of your past, and being a harsh critic doesn't exclude accepting and understanding.

Each time the judgment is made again, and the emotions around it remain unmoved, or intensify, the thought form intensifies. For example, 'Tm not a nice person," is a judgment and a label in place of compassion and introspection that could realize why you could have this judgment against yourself

Except that we saw above that judgement is clearly weaponized and used to mean that discerning people as NOT NICE are actually a discernment about oneself and not used the correct sense of judgement in any of its definitions, judgement has a bad connotation because it's tied to Law and the rigidity of those Reason and Definition centered institutions, which the feeble minded are recoiling from, REASON! you want me to JUDGE for myself!?

It all makes sense now, the reason the world is so fucked up is that it's all a reflection of myself, I better stop projecting.