Have many photographers here shot for Suicide Girls?
What do you make of it? Worthwhile?
Its an interesting business model. On one hand they do offer payment to the photographer which is nice, but only if the shoot is selected as Shoot Of The Day. One of their requirement is that the shoot must contain a minimum of 40 images. That's quite a lot of work if you're planning to retouch images to a high quality. To put that into context the shoot above was one I shot for SG and put 12 - 15 hours of editing time in across a few days, along with roughly 2 hours shooting time on the day. Lets say for arguments sake it was 16 hours in total.
That shoot got selected as Shoot of the Day and I had to spend a further significant amount of time filling in the paperwork with them and getting up to speed on their contract and terms etc. I won't even factor that into my time. Eventually I was sent a cheque for 200 US dollars, roughly equaling 160 euro.
Basically that shoot worked out as paying an even 10 euro an hour for the work I put in. When you consider the legal minimum wage in Ireland is currently €9.55 an hour thats not so good.
Now in the interest of being fair. I didn't need to put in that much time editing. Steph the model I shot with is absolutely stunning and doesnt need much editing. I just like working to a certain standard with my photography and proper retouching is a slow enough process. Yes I could have rushed it, slapped on a few quick filters/plugins, but then it may not have been chosen as SOTD, and then there would be no payment at all.
If you compare that to the business model on Steemit its worlds apart. Users upload content on here and are fairly rewarded, at least for anyone willing to persevere and put in the work. I know some posts get better or worse responses and its not always about the quality or effort put in. I've had posts I spent far longer on that fell flat, compared to posts that didn't take long at all which did really well. The point is that perseverance, good work and good content on here seems to be a pretty reliable way to generate a good fair reward for the content we create.
Comparing that to the barely legal minimum wage reward I got from the SG shoot, I know where my efforts are going in future.
Here are bigger versions of those images in case anyone wants to see. I've kept this image SFW, but as you can imagine there were NSFW in the shoot too. I didn't think it was appropriate for this post, but if theres any interest I could post them another time.
I didn't know their payment structure, thanks for useful information. It looks like only the company make money, not photo artists and models.
BTW, we are waiting for NSFW photos, too. :D
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That's it?! I used to be a fan but now that I know that they rip off the photographers working for them like that? Fuck em.
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Yep afraid so, and if the shoot isn't chosen as Shoot Of The Day then no payment at all. I believe their payment structure for models is a bit more generous but not by much.
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That's insane. My husband is a professional photographer by training, and I simply wouldn't let him do it. He can make more posting those photos to steemit with his own watermark and retaining rights for the work.
Screw SG, bring the work here. I will personally make sure it is rewarded much more fairly.
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Aww thank you @techslut. I just can't understand why so many photographers are shooting for SG. I know they have some staff shooter program so perhaps that's a bit more fair. Still, I think Steemit is definitely the way to go!
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I believe that steem is the future of content rewards in many aspects. Besides, having my daily dose of SG models in my steemit feed? Yes please! :)
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Haha in that case its only right I share more from this shoot.
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Not really on topic for your post but how is this girl not yet on Steem? She must be the most popular model on Steem who isn't on Steem.
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Haha not for lack of trying. Me and @condra went out for dinner with her last week and were raving about Steemit. Hopefully she does though, she could do really well.
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The 40 image requirement is the biggest barrier for me with Suicide Girls, especially when some models require a lot of retouching work.
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You're not supposed to touch the models! :P
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Yep 40 images minimum is a lot of work for any photographer.
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I love first picture, that little grain make it !
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Haha I think only a photographer would pick up on that. I like that myself ;)
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but do you think you would really do better on steemit? I don't see much rewards coming to people posting NSFW content. It would be cool to see that thrive, as there are too few platforms for original NSFW content creators to be creative and actually get paid for it.
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I'd say you're right, but also I wouldn't imagine theres too many people limiting themselves to just NSFW content. I'm sure there's some, but thats probably just a small amount of the overall content creators on here.
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WoW this is a sweet, hot model! :) very nice...good angle and good lighting...regards love it!
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Ah thanks @artizm. Glad you like it.
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money is very important in life
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True, we all have our bills to pay.
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That's a shockingly low payout for this quality. I was shooting hotels and BnB's for 500px for a few months, and it was a similar story. They wanted 60 edited images from a 3 hour shoot. That included window replacements (exposure blending), perfectly straight verticals (and I mean more vertical than in real life) and extremely accurate colour balance. The photos were for Trivago, like! Who the feck is going to notice that the bedside table is a tiny bit not vertical or that one corner of the room needs a very slight bit more cyan? They nit-picked so much that I told them to go scratch. I wasn't the only one who was having issuse with their QC because now they do all the editing, but the pay is less and they want more photos.
It was fine for me at the time because I had just started my business but now that I've more clients I thankfully don't have to lower myself to that.
Great portraiture by the way.
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Its crazy how demanding some clients/business can be. I know we all need to pay our bills but expecting that much work so such a small payment is just crazy. Glad to hear you've more clients and don't need the hotels/bnb jobs.
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This is insane, way too much for high quality editing etc. Steemit is the future 🔥
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Its crazy isn't it, especially with zero guarantees. Steemit all the way!!
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I had a couple friends years ago complaining about the payment model for that site. Wow, that was a decade ago at this point. Can't believe people are still putting up with it.
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You also write well I may say, not only shoot :) clearly follow
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