Considering what's happening to Sweden I don't know how you can say that unless you're in complete denial, even then as well I wouldn't call it a form of socialism to begin with. People keep doing this and it annoys the crap out of me, they keep referencing various European countries as 'successes' of Socialism or the sneakier term 'democratic socialism'.
It's gotten so obnoxious that even in Denmark their prime minister debunked it and said they were not 'socialist' they were a market economy.
https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist
After seeing his country held up as an example in the US presidential debate, Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen used an address at Harvard to explain the Nordic model to a US audience suddenly very interested in Denmark.
It's very easy to claim your favourite ideology as a success when you just redefine everything to suit your arguments.
I'm sorry you are annoyed. I didn't realize that the Nordic model was it's own system. From my perspective it has some aspects of Socialism to go with some aspects of Capitalism. Very successfully, I might add.
There is nothing in the definition of Socialism above that precludes a market economy. I never intimated that Sweeden was anything but a market driven economy.
Would you please remind me what my favorite ideology is? It seems I have some arguments to tailor.
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lol I'm just talking generally if you're being genuine about this, the problem is more often than not the people I come into contact with who think that EU countries are 'socialist' in any guise are extremely disingenuous. I just don't think that 'socialism' really has anything to do with it, very often you get ideologues especially like Bernie Sanders who run around screeching it's Democratic Socialism when in reality it's not. If that's not you fair enough, I'm just deeply cynical about the whole thing when it comes to political discourse these days.
At most these countries are mostly market economies with a sprinkling of left wing ideology but because they're doing well anti-capitalists love pretending these countries are 'democratic socialism' then when somebody points to a country like Venezuela they'll claim it's not 'real socialism' despite the ruling party being Socialist as can be.
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Neither is Bernie Sanders a true socialist by those definitions which makes your argument of comparison to Venezuela moot.
I am a proponent for a social government within a national framework, it is when the government overextends the ideology that things go south.
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This post has it's genesis in a discussion that had two protagonists. One arguing Socialism and one Capitalism. But to me, it sounded like 'Animal Farm' in that they were trying to make the same points from the opposite perspectives.
I hoped for honest discussion about the term itself, and to clarify some of the precepts. The next one will be Capitalism, and I hope to do the same with it.
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Plus I think a deep dose of cynicism is a healthy thing today.
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