I think we should not underestimate them. The government is a very resilient beast, 6000 years old, it has survived many tragedies, and it won't go away that easily.
They will just find a way to regulate that or impose their control on it.
It's true that the power of the government is slowly going away, but I don't think we will live to see that day when it will go away, for all we know it might take 1000 years.
nope..the government is not that old...in fact there is not a "THE" government...like bacteria there are a great many of them.
how long do most guberments live? a hundred years? two hundred..three?
Is the USA the oldest government on earth?
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Well then it's like 4-5 years old, an election cycle, but that is not what we are talking about here.
I am talking about "government" as in the form of institution, not a particular government, nor a particular country.
Countries come and go, politicians come and go, but government remains. It was here 6000 years ago, and it's still here, just with different rules, and different people.
So it's something more fundamental to human nature, and unfortunately human evolution is a very long process. A tooth takes like 1 million years to evolve, or something like that.
Now but given that it's only about 6000 years old, and there is really no indication amongst other animals to form such stupid thing, makes me happy, knowing that it won't be around for another 6000 years.
Unfortunately it will be around for our kids and grandkids and their grandkids.... Well it takes time for humans to transition.
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government...in the sense that you are talking about...is just slightly younger than agriculture.
it's the child of scarcity.
once scarcity is removed..we'll have to find new kind of economy..and government won't be part of it.
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Then it will never go away because scarcity will never go away.
A lot of things can be made more accesible with future tech, but not everything.
I don't think it's the scarcity, because once people have their basic needs satisfied, they will just peacefully trade and build stuff, without violence.
I think it's more like the need to dominate, that causes the existence of it.
Like how an alpha wolf beats his cub, it's instinctual, they do form packs and they are violently defending their territory.
The government is like that, or an extension of that with bureaucracy. Once you remove the violence and the need to dominate, it will fall apart like a house of cards.
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monkeysphere.
beyond dunbar's number we become irrational.
after the last ice age..when the glaciers melted.
we needed agriculture to survive.
some folks didn't like to work so hard.
they'd rather steal than plow.
thus was born religon..and the state.
....
when the basic needs can be produced individually.
neither will be needful..
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I phrased it wrong I should have said that scarcity is not the only thing.
Obviously if people don't have their basic needs satisfied they will violently rob things.
But that is not an issue anymore since tech can pretty much supply all basic needs (water,food,clothes,shelter).
What will really take time is to remove violence from the human DNA and sort of make humans more cooperating.
It's not the organization that is the problem, but the coercion inside it. Only those organizations should exist that don't have coercion in them.
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I disagree.
organisations ARE the problem.
anything larger than a clan is irrational.
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No, like some international chess organization with tens of thousands of members, there is no coercion there. Because it doesn't have a role to dominate.
The State is for domination only, there is no other role.
Voluntary organizations are ok, in fact they are even helpful, because they offer a channel for humans to organize in their own niche.
Chessplayers can have their own group, football fans their own, steemit users their own, and so on....
People will form groups, big groups, inevitably. The question is will these be voluntary ones or coercive ones?
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