Two Biggest Problems
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what is the incentive?
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composing an awesome post
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the rest of the votes were bots voting on just the headline.
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This is true, and it makes me want to power down evreything and move it to my BTC wallet and then forget my key, about once in every few days. Yet I continue to post and be annoyed, telling myself that it is going to change.
A typical junkey behaviour, isn't it?
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a major incentive for me to stay here (now)
is that ALL I have invested is time.
once I "learn the ropes"
of crypto..and accumulated some 'investment capital'
I might leave steemit and go play
in someone elses sandbox.
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I wondered what that spamming was about yesterday, I thought there must be some sort of plan/idea in mickeys actions. Glad to see I was right. Love the way you constructed this post.
And ofc: Make Steemit human again! is a cause I would sign up to any day ;)
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I stand to make a chunk of pocket change off all that.
in total
nothing to sneeze at.
I made a bunch of posts yesterday
in the same time
it took me to do this ONE.
and they'll all pay about the same
each
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That is a sad thing to read. I already saw some very insightful and professional articles and posts, that just went under. I understand that value is subjective, but I'd think many people didn't even see those posts to be able to vote on them to begin with. Having some AI's voting around surely doesn't help the cause either.
Is there any reasoning behind those bots? And is there another way to make original and valuable content here be more exposed to potential votes, than "removing bots"?
I guess we have to make use of the promote feature, if we see a valuable post. Would you think being promoted would help? I'm new to steemit, I can't really tell.
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I have a lot of patience but patience won't solve this problem. I look at my world and see the same problems. Steemit is suffering from greed, short term profits without a larger view....sound familiar? Also I see this happening in cycles when steeming becomes profitable. At least I can sell my art if I want too!
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Wow! Only 3000 actual authors, that's mind blowing! I couldn't agree more, my first time on here I got into an argument about bots!
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more than half the accounts are either inactive or set up by the whales for their bots.
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That's disturbing!
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Combat via flagbots?!
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Bots: I agree.
Flagging: Well you know what I think about that one :)
Math: Lets do it indeed, but on another topic, ie rewards distribution: 3.000 active accounts, lets say 1 post per day in average = 3.000 post per day. 40.000 steem/day ? this makes 13,33 steem/post in average. with Steem @ 0,7$ct (a little higher today, but ok) this makes 9,3$ per post in average. Without figures I think most posts go for much less then this 9,3$, like to know how much though. On SteemData website we have a graph with an Amazon like short/longtail, nice for the short tail, but I'm afraid far from nice for the longtail (99+% of the accounts??? posts???), they leave because of not able to get to decent rewards. Yesterday I saw in trending page posts with more than 1.000$ while I also see a lot of posts of much lower than 1$. Bots are not the only problem, reward distribution is also an issue! Some of the reward distribution imbalance may by due to bots, indeed, since even on the super high value posts you can see many more votes than views.
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let's use real data.
see my last post.
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Flagging: Should only be used for what flagging is for on every other website in the world-- removing copy/paste, plagiarism, abuse, trolling etc.
Bots: Since I don't like censorship, by all means allow bots, but make it so no bot can vote with more than 1% power. In other words "Sure, have the freedom to have your bots, but make them mostly toothless." Some bots are OK (i.e. cheetah, twitterbot, etc.) so completely outlawing them may not be the best approach.
Doing the math: On pretty much all interactive sites-- from forums, to blogs, to flickr, to twitter to Facebook-- 95% of the content is created by 5% of the users. That's "www issue" not a "Steemit issue." Don't have any easy answers to that, sadly.
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steemit is decentralized.
there IS no central controlling authority.
If someone trys to tell ME what to do..
so
What ever solution there is, if there is one
will have to be written into the code
otherwise.
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Yep, it should be written into the code. Which requires consensus (mostly) among the witnesses. which will require a pretty large number of people to rise above self-serving human greed.
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150,000 accounts
3,000 active authors.
how many parasites?
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Random guess (based on past experience of similar sites):
135,000 signed up and never looked at their account other than the day they signed up.
3,000 active authors.
1,500 only signed up "to comment on a friend's posts" and might read/curate occasionally.
1,500 used by "neutral" bots/guilds.
Leaves 9,000 potential "parasites." Still 3-to-1.
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seems reasonable.
is it a problem? (I think it is)
if so what can be done?
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Wish I knew. Bit of a hornets' nest.
Gets into the whole "freedom and uncensored" vs. "making rules" issue.
But yeah, it's a problem, because parasites are very destructive when they have something to feed on (aka "rewards").
How do we get rid of parasites in nature?
And who's "we" in a decentralized world? And "who" decides what kind of parasite zapper is available?
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only the devs can fix it.
All I can do is identify the problem
as I see it.
remove flaggin would be good first step..
maybe..seems a lot of people disagree.
are they producers or parasites?
after that I dunno.
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my bot upvoted this post before I could.
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