I'm driving in my car right under the speed limit because I'm a man who abides by the law. I'm passing by a group of officers who seem to have stopped someone in a corner for something, I don't slow down much, but I'm curious to know what happened. Then I see one of the patrol cars turn on and start approaching me.
I'm confident I've done nothing wrong, you see, as I've said before, I'm all about the law. As a matter of fact, I'm the most lawful person there is. I don't drive and drive, and I drive like a carefully seasoned older man, never speed or nothing. The cop lights turn on, they seem to want to stop me for some reason, but as I've said, I know I can't be guilty a a damn thing.
So what do I do? I continue of course, I'm not going to stop if I'm innocent. Why would I? As I'm approaching the interstate the cop turns on the Siren, but as I've said before, I'm innocent and he is just being an asshole at this point. I'm going at the speed of traffic, I'm not slowing down or speeding up, and the cop beings to speak through the loudspeakers.
"Stop the vehicle, Pull to the side of the road, STOP THE VEHICLE"
Next thing I know, there's three more patrol cars after me and they literally trap me into a box and force me to slow down. Mind you, I did not break any laws to begin with, so I know I'm in the right. We finally stop, and one of the officers pulls out his gun and threatens me.
"Step out of the vehicle with your hands where I can see them"
I had to obey at this point, but I'm fully aware this is an unfair witch hunt and I know I'm one hundred percent innocent. They handcuff me, completely illegally and tell me that I've resisted arrest and that I was not compliant with their orders.
I'm in full indignation mode at this point. "How can I be guilty of not obeying an order, when I had done nothing wrong to begin with, and you trying to pull me over was a complete Witch Hunt?
The officer gets all upset, and tells me I don't understand the law, but I tell the officer he's a corrupt deep state police officer who obviously does not understand the constitution. I have right, I did not commit any crimes to begin with, so I can't resist arrest for a crime that I didn't commit.
As you can imagine, this is going to work out perfectly... I'm super smart.
MenO
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If you have not done anything wrong, there is nothing to fear. Better to stop the vehicle and see what the officer wants. They are routine procedures. And the officer is only doing his job. Kindness will not take away your bravery.Downvoting a post can decrease pending rewards and make it less visible. Common reasons:
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Not necessarily so. They now have a perverse incentive for legalized theft (sometimes goes by the names of "civil asset forfeiture" or "equitable sharing"). This program started back in 1965 after the Watts riots in LA in which the police chief complained that they were out gunned, which formed the political will to create SWAT. Then Reagan got the idea that it would be good to steal the drug money from drug cartels to fund government operations in the 1980's. More money was pouring into police departments and military surplus from government. This part is not as bad because what police seized, they handed over to government which limits an incentive to do wrong.
Where they went wrong is when police unions and lobbyists got together to rewrite these civil asset forfeiture laws to make it legal for police to keep what they confiscate for themselves, even without charging others with a crime. So they're not necessarily just "doing their job". They're shopping for raises which means they tend to pull over expensive vehicles in the hopes that they will get to steal it to beef up department revenues. Some have even been caught planting drugs for this very reason or offering half of any cash they find back in exchange for a signed agreement not to legally purse the department for stealing. I stopped buying new vehicles for this reason in 2001.
The reason I know this is because several in my family are cops or have been and I have also been a victim of this practice (in which the search was immediately dropped when they found out I was driving a rental and that they couldn't steal from Hertz). In fact my great grandfather was former police commissioner for the city of Syracuse, NY. He would turn in his grave over what the department has become.
When you give them the right to keep legally what they take without being charged for a crime, that has turned all badge wearers into road pirates.
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Greetings @zoidsoft
I understand what you are talking about, I live in Venezuela, where every day I see injustices. I think that the way to correct these situations is with study, the more prepared we are, the more knowledge we have, we will understand that with those actions we do not benefit. Anarchy must be avoided, let's see the example of Venezuela Fair knowledge and laws to be fulfilled, that is the solution.Downvoting a post can decrease pending rewards and make it less visible. Common reasons:
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Venezuela is not anarchy. This is a common misconception that the public has is that anarchy = violence. Anarchy really means nobody should be a slave and that individuals should own themselves. It means that borders should not exist to create monopoly power over citizens by a given state to create cattle of them by which the state acts like a parasite from their labor stealing their wages. Tim Draper has talked about nations competing for their citizens in the near future (Estonia and Liberland for example). States commit violence, or rather, badge wearers acting on a legal fiction commit violence against others under command of slave owners (the rulers). Anarchy literally means "no rulers".
What anarchy doesn't mean is lawlessness. You can have rules without rulers. It's called natural law, and nature already lives under these rules for billions of years. What you are living in right now is the end result of statism which is a cataclysm of violence. Anarchy comes later if you're lucky enough to outlast the violence to a point where coercion is no longer necessary in human relationships. Hopefully bitcoin will be a catalyst and later on, smart contracts can replace the legal system (by opting in instead of opting out). I've written about this on my blog here a couple of years back.
Here is a closer example to true anarchy:
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BINGO! you get it... hahahhaha i wish more people would.
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Sometimes we do things we don't agree with and you should have just pulled over. I live in a country where I am a minority and it is usual crap hoping for a bribe and we just suck it up. You did nothing wrong but they can find things wrong if you get too cocky. Just be careful and don't be a hero.
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An interesting review @meno and we practically also, if the police demand me to stop, it is better to fulfill their demands, even if there is no violation behind me, such is life!
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So, what happened next? What was the purpose of it all? This is a clear indication that turning on those lights is a definite threat to your life; especially considering the gun coming out when you do pull over. Why would you comply with a threat when you've done nothing wrong? Had you tried to defend yourself against this threat, who is actually in the wrong?
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The point here is that we can have a purist idealistic binary understand of right and wrong, but in practice we have people who are judges of said differences.
The point is also that these are not necessarily correlated, but we get hung up on the idea that they ought to be.
I may be innocent from the initial crime I was suspected of, but that innocence does not blanket me from the second crime which is that of none compliance.
Yes, I may see the actions of a police officer as violence, as unjustified, but in other for society to have it's laws, they appointed law enforcement personnel and gave them special powers if you will. I may not be ok with that on principle, but until I move out of the system, I must be aware of their functions and dynamics.
The purpose of this thought experiment is more to shed some logical light on the current political events. Some are so attached to the idea that the president is innocent of conspiring with the Russian, which seems to be the case, that are ready to dismiss all attempts his administration made to delay and impede investigations, there for being very much like the hypothetical driver who refuses to stop.
Again, this does not make the driver guilty of the " initial accusation".
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It's certainly thought-provoking.
Should non-compliance be a crime if there is no victim and you are not putting anyone else in danger, though? And even if it is, should the police have the 'special power' to threaten your life (and potentially end it) for a victimless crime? Breaking a rule somebody wrote on a piece of paper should not make your right to life worthless, but it does in the eyes of the "law."
As far as things with Trump, I'm Canadian and I don't pay attention to it much. It's not that it's not shoved in my face at every turn just like everyone else experiences, even up here, though. It all just seems like it's being used as a distraction. Politicians are slimy, lying, deceitful people. There is plenty of proof throughout history to support this. Maybe some aren't, but there is absolutely no way you get to any high-level position like that without lying and misdirecting people at every turn. They're just gangsters who pretend they aren't. If they don't lie, steal, and cheat to get to the top, they'll just be lied to, stolen from, and cheated by all the politicians around them and won't stand a chance. If I was a politician being investigated, I'd be trying to delay it as much as possible as well. There's no telling what other things they'd find to use and there will always be something when dealing with politicians if you look deep enough. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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You're very lucky to live in the land of the free.
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This kind of things making so frustrated to you when you are not guilty but still you should be answerable .
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You know your right and nobody can take that from you. Actually countries are different. If it is another countries, it may probably have resulted into gunshot at first
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The unfortunate consequences of the powerless among those abusing their power. Sickens me when I see it and even worst when it happens to me!
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So, what happened next? What was the purpose of it all? This is a clear indication that turning on those lights is a definite threat to your life; especially considering the gun coming out when you do pull over. Why would you comply with a threat when you've done nothing wrong? Had you tried to defend yourself against this threat, who is actually in the wrong?
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