The evolution of Adam - Sin and Entropy

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The word "sin" is apparently an archery term and means to "miss the mark or target".

Sin and unrighteousness often has a poor connotation associated with it in our minds, perhaps because of the repeated strong language and warnings associated with it in scripture.


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If we think about sin using the archery metaphor then it is not surprising that all of us are sinners and fall short much of the time.

There are just so many more ways to miss the mark than the one and only way to hit the target. If we examine it a little closer, there are 359 degrees just on the horizontal plane, as opposed to the one degree that the target is located in. Add to that the vertical up and down of the horizontal and we start to look at extremely large numbers of possibilities beside the one marked by the target.

The Lord gives his own definition of sin early on in Genesis when speaking to Cain.

Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door.

This is why we consider the world we live in now, or the fallen world that Adam and Eve were cast out into, a world of high entropy. High entropy is associated with many "degrees of freedom". There are just so many ways in this world where we can "doeth not well".

It is also interesting that the word "fallen" is applied to it or that Adam "fell". The two words imply a descent from something higher. In this case a descent from the higher more ordered state of Eden, a state of low entrophy. Entropy is associated with the natural tendency for things to descend into lesser and lesser ordered states, a measure of how things unravel over time without intervention.

If we look at the commandments its not hard to notice that many of these things all warn against behaviors that will introduce a couple more degrees of disorder into our lives and that of the society or community in which we live and interact. Subsequently even though not obeying a set of commandments seems to provide us with greater freedom, ultimately it increases the disorder around us and allows chaos into or lives.

It may be temporarily great at the lower levels of order, because there is so much freedom there, however staying at high levels of freedom, high entropy and close to chaos does have its drawbacks. All of the things accessible to more ordered states and higher levels are inaccessible.

For example, if one has just exercised their freedom to chop up and burn the wooden ladder for firewood then it is no longer possible to use that ladder to climb to otherwise inaccessible places. Unbridled freedom is not always all it is made out to be.

Adam and Eve soon found that out, their exercise of freedom led to a world of pain, suffering and hard work. Pain and suffering come to us as a natural result of entropy and hard work is required to maintain or build anything in this fallen "high entropy" world.

So to it is with us, we need to improve the level of order and organisation in or lives if we want to achieve more lofty goals.

This is the purpose of the laws of obedience and sacrificing certain levels of freedom. This is the means we have at our disposal to assist our aim, enable us to hit the mark and reach our target.

Previous parts of this Series.

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Where do these notions originate?
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Delving a little deeper
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Into the detail
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Some conclusions
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Some more conclusions
Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - The implications.
The evolution of Adam - a conundrum
The evolution of Adam - Who is Adam
The evolution of Adam - Two trees and choice
The evolution of Adam - Partaking of the fruit and feeling naked
The evolution of Adam - Was there death before Adam
The evolution of Adam - The biological purpose of death.
The evolution of Adam - The need for a Redeemer
The evolution of Adam - Inheritance and Redemption
The evolution of Adam - The dust of the ground
The evolution of Adam - flesh and blood and flesh and bone.
The evolution of Adam - a debt of blood and ghosts
The evolution of Adam - the lesser understood spirit within us all.
The evolution of Adam - Entropy and Eden.

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Great explanation of "sin" @gavvet. I have really been enjoying your series and learning a lot.

This paragraph realy hit home for me.

"If we look at the commandments its not hard to notice that many of these things all warn against behaviors that will introduce a couple more degrees of disorder into our lives and that of the society or community in which we live and interact. Subsequently even though not obeying a set of commandments seems to provide us with greater freedom, ultimately it increases the disorder around us and allows chaos into or lives.

I can't help but relate to this quote here in backpacker Thailand. So many young travelers I've met who are atheist, and go by the Allister Crowly motto of "do as thou wilt" it creates quite a drama filled, drunken, irresponsible, drugged out, hedonistic environment that I either watch from the side lines or avoid all together. So many of them will proudly come out and say I'm "Atheist" Then arrogantly look at you like your an idiot if you have any other belief.

Their reckless behavior often leads to misery, STDs, broken hearts, fights, broken bones, and even death by being drunk and drowning or motorbike accidents. In your opinion is that a result of them turning their back on God, or God turning his back on them or something else all together? What do you think?

For me and my travels I can be a little antisocial when the company is out of control. I enjoy daytime activities. I enjoy seeing the immaculate creation all around. Today I visited four stunningly beautiful beaches here in Thailand. So stunning you can just feel that the creator has a hand in just about everything. Thanks for sharing. -Dan "World Travel Pro!"
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Their reckless behavior often leads to misery, STDs, broken hearts, fights, broken bones, and even death by being drunk and drowning or motorbike accidents. In your opinion is that a result of them turning their back on God, or God turning his back on them or something else all together? What do you think?

Its simply the consequences of being in a state with higher degrees of freedom. If one never goes near the edge of a cliff it would take extraordinary circumstances to fall off the cliff.

But if you live on the edge most of the time, the chances of falling are vastly increased.

Now that's wisdom! Thanks! -Dan

Sin is not only what we do
, but also what we do not do, although we are responsible for this. People are punished not for their sins, but are punished with sins themselves. And this is the heaviest and most faithful punishment.

so called "punishments" are actually usually often simply natural consequences of poor choices

Yes, you probably are right.

Being off target or on the wrong path also leaves open the possibility of discovering the correct path when supplied with adequate feedback. Sin is less a stain on the soul and more a condition of ignorance.

Absolutely agree with you, the whole world turned upside down! I certainly respect the right of every person to freedom of thought and expression, but in my opinion, some things have been distorted to such an extent that it is disgusting to look at it. The main people lose their feelings of shame, which is a sin. Violated the laws of nature and the universe, I think this is a dead end for a sinner! Thank you @gavvet

My mother often used an allegory to describe this very point...

The story of How Things Get in a Muddle by Gregory Bateson, taken from his book Steps to an Ecology of Mind.

Taken from his Metalogues, which are too long to post, instead I'll post a summary of them I found Here

A daughter asks her father, “Daddy, why do things get in a muddle?”

The father explores with her what she means, and they come to realise that things do not get in a muddle when people leave them alone. They only get in a muddle when (other) people touch them.

The opposite of ‘muddled’ seems to be ‘tidy’. But they realise that although everyone would agree when things are in a muddle, ‘tidy’ means different things to different people — which is precisely why the father doesn’t like anyone to ‘tidy’ his desk.

Then they think about the example of a cup with a layer of sand in the bottom and a layer of sugar on top. If this is defined as ‘tidy’ then we can see that if the cup were shaken even slightly, then it would be very difficult to get all of the sugar back on top and the sand underneath. “All of science is hooked up with that”, the father explains. And this explains how you can tell when a movie is running backwards, or forwards.

Finally they realise that the reason things get in a muddle is simply that there is a huge number of ways for things to be in a muddle, but only a very small number of ways for things to be ‘tidy’.

Is this not exactly the point you were making?

I'm glad that this knowledge does indeed come from the Bible as I always pondered its meaning and always considered it a key precept that I hold to understand my actions, how to forgive myself, how to try better next time...

Thank you for sharing my brother!
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The truth is sin makes vulnerable to the union with God, and that was why Adam and eve could not fine with God due to their nature.
They are now considered fallen because they are no longer right with God.

Sin in my definition means being contaminated of filth that cab make us unable in the prescence of God

You made me look at sin mathematically, never thought of that angle before. Your use of illustrations also made the article a good read. Same reason Jesus used illustrations while on earth.

I don't know if you will consider getting a simplified bible or a newer translation. The English in the bible translation (probably old King James v) you used is not really clear.

Regarding sin, without laws there is no order. That is a good reason to obey God's word and live in harmony with his words.

Actually agree with you when you finally told contents. As you know when i told from previous article I am personally not believe evolution of Adam. But personally trust sin and entropy. Sin is any action, feeling, or thought that goes against God’s standards. Probably we most often think of sin as wrongdoing or transgression of God's law. Sin includes a fail to do what is right decision. We all of us are sinners and if not we are not live as humans on the planet. Stay live, thats huge sin activities. Any of religion showing us what is the sin? As my religion sin meaning to the "karma". If you want to search what is the "karma" you can find it from google or books. The concept of sin is complex and the large volume.
As my mind, the sin happened with mixing humanity worst activities. But any bad work don from humans finally received sin result to them.
In this fact we require to think carefully dont go against god. Sin will coming our backward. we need to improve the our humanity level for achieve our goals success.
Absolutely great religious title you sharing @gavvet.
Resteemed.

Very interesting post.

Interesting, and seemingly applicable, connotation between the 'ADAM' and 'ENTROPy.' Especially because the entropy is not reversible. The effect of Adam falling almost sounds scientific in a way. Entropy in a way is a one-way type force that is almost natural and cannot be controlled nor reversed once initiated. Henceforth, the control, change or re-organization would not be a possibility without another external force. So what would that external force be in this world?; Definitely can't be us the human beings.

Fallen->Entropy->7 billion plus->suburban sprawl->...saturation or end

Again very interesting post indeed.

Yup, a system would require an input of energy or work to reverse the effects of entropy

My full appreciation for this article, although our religion and beliefs are different, but basically we are from the same descendants, that is Adam and Eve, if someday people are separated by custom and belief, that is one proof of God's greatness, let us make a difference this as a motivation to live and compete healthily with affection and peace as a bridge between them.
My best REGARDS for you @gavvet

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Repentance is needed for all sins. There aren"t some you can sweep under the carpet, justifying your actions and thinking you do not need to go through the repenting process. Some people gets so decensitized they do not know right from wrong anymore. Interesting topic choice.

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That good explanation actually I like, I do not have much knowledge on the subject because it does not attract much attention, but I liked it a lot, and I want to investigate, thanks for the good post

We are all sinners and want God to forgive us.

Sins are that which are committed by the hands, the feet, the heart, and even the whole body. (Romans 8:13 - For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.)

But there is something within us that compels us to sin, to commit evil, and this something is sin. (Romans 7:23 - But I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me.)

An obvious difference between sin and sins is that: sin is singular, and sins are plural. However, we need to distinguish sin and sins. If you cannot see the difference between the two, it will be impossible for you to be clear about your salvation.

+1 for a most lucid perspective

Well done, thanks for the information!

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thx learned something today again

actually...what happened..maximum we are responsible for this...
sometime we make mistake a great length.
we should be conscious about this.
thank's for your sharing

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Right. One of the words in the Hebrew language for :missing the mark is "לחטוא," pronounced la-khato, which means to miss the mark.

you write very well @gavvet, at my age, i realize have some new things to aim for as well, and also humbled that I fall short. I am new to Steem, so thank you for your insight into the wise words of the bible

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Very interesting your post

Adam and Eve soon found that out, their exercise of freedom led to a world of pain, suffering and hard work. Pain and suffering come to us as a natural result of entropy and hard work is required to maintain or build anything in this fallen "high entropy" world.

so do you mean that nothing good can be reached without suffering and hard work?
but what about the theory which tells that anything in life must be easy and comfortale and if it is not, then it's not our point and our "door", it will not bring us to our purpose and harmony. Only soul knows the right way, and this way is always easy and pleasant, universe doesn't create difficulties to humans, but they create them by themselves

Good post....... Thank for this

thanks for sharing

articles are very nice and helpful to me
thanks for sharing sir :)

Yes is it. If the target was missed then all the mindset was disturbed.

Learned a lot than before.very useful blog

Nice post

Uh I think true etymology is missed understanding. Yes, missed the target but in language itself rather then a literal target.

Of course we are all sinners seeking redemption, the fact is, we do not really have pure chastity because we are born into sin, and we are not free except by the son.

Muslims reject the doctrine of original sin and cannot accept that death ensured; it was a natural process built into creation (23:14-16). They may even quote the Bible that people are responsible for their own deeds: “The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness the wicked will be upon himself” (Ezekiel 18:20). They reason it would be unjust for God to punish all humanity because of Adam’s deed. Sin is not hereditary and no one born a sinner.

Nice picture, i like it

Are high levels of freedom the problem or is the problem having high levels of freedom mixed with the possibility of becoming evil?

I ask this because will we not have waaayy high levels of freedom in the Kingdom without evil being able to overcome us?

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The Sin can trust anytime.It will be happen via peoples all of activities. May be good maybe bad those activities. It decide god. Sin is meaning many of times in the Bible, starting with the original sin when Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge. I have heard before it seems as if sin is simply the violation of any of God's laws. That would be possibility, so peoples need get hard decision. Its will be responsibility and genius to the earth. If not peoples go down to the hell.

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The path of happiness is not right. There are turns called Errors, traffic lights named Friends, caution lights called Family. Everything is paid as toll. But everything can be accomplished if you have a spare tire named Decision, a powerful engine named Love and a lot of fuel named Patience. But you need above all an expert driver named Courage.

We are brothers and we descend All of Adam and Eve.

Hi,I am from Bangladesh and I like your post

😍A very informative post. Great job. Keep it up! 😍
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I enjoyed reading your post, you explained everything so well.
We ended up all as sinners and now we need to avoid failures and fix a goal in our life that helps our spirit to live in the heaven here and in the after life.

The evolution of Adam Doesn't Mean Sin...
Its True We Are Come From Adam Who Was The 1st Person In The World..
Thanks dear @gavvet

OMG never read such a great article on how entropy and freewill relate. Thanks for the post.

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Amazing....I like your sport....😉

¿El pecado llegó a existir antes del mandamiento? Respecto a este punto, Pablo, el apóstol escribió: ¿Qué diremos entonces? ¿Es la ley pecadora? ¡Dios no lo quiera! No, no habría conocido el pecado, sino a través de la ley; porque no habría conocido la lujuria, excepto que la ley había dicho: "No codiciarás" Romanos 7:7
Y pregunto: Si no existiera el mandamiento, ¿Existiera el pecado? Si no existe ninguna ley que nos impida hacer algo... ¿Habrá algo mal hecho?

Sabemos que hay cosas, acontecimientos y acciones realmente malas, pues causan daño a otras personas o a nosotros mismos. Sin embargo, me pone a pensar lo dicho por el apóstol Pablo en su carta a los Romanos, en el mismo capítulo 7 que acaba de mencionar @steemitray: Cuando dice Pablo que el pecado "revivió" cuando vino el mandamiento... ¿Podemos decir que pecar está en la naturaleza humana desde su creación? Si Dios no hubiese dado el mandamiento de "No comerás..." ¿Hubiese podido comer de aquel árbol sin tener consecuencias? Y por último... Si el pecado cobró vida y fuerza por la ley de Moisés, estableciendo el imperio de la muerte durante el vigencia de esta ley ¿Sigue existiendo hoy cuando la ley de Moisés ya esta caduca? Pues el mismo escritor afirma: "Que sin ley no se inculpa de pecado"Romanos 5:12

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Thanks for this interesting post.

great post

obviously.. there are lot of point of view.. your article is easy to reading but its demand deep thinking ...sins are vary with culture and religion ... i think we can not avoid the definition of sins....regarding our living culture or religion ..... I hope i will read all of your articles ...

Always take care to think twice before acting. Sounds easy but isn’t in all cases.

A nice post ... I like the archery metaphor ... Thank you and have a blessed new Week :-)

Excellent

Archery is a hella crazy sport mang love it specially in movies hahhaaa lol

And also the truth about freedom is that wheb expressed too much it may bring defilment which is also sin.

Freedom makes people vulnerable and prone to misusing their freedom

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i cant wrap my head around the concept of "Adam and Eve" its ridiculous, Im not a man of science but thats stupid, god created 2 people in an abundant amazing forest. Then all humans came form 2 people, that would mean were all related, and Adam and Eve, would be all colours, black, white, yellow, red, brown and whatever else Im missing. doesnt make any sense!

Dear @gavvet, i am always inspire to read your blog about the bible especially in the book of Genesis. I have learned a lot about Adan and Eve. It's interesting to read them. I love reading bible. I plan to write about Adan and Eve, i will tag you @gavvet. Thank you for inspiring me today. By the way, i have posted a blog about my mother if you have time please check it out. https://steemit.com/untalented-mama/@sorenkierkegaard/untalented-mama-a-christmas-poem-to-my-mom

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Great job. very nice and helpful to me

The original word sin is a translation interpreted by Greek, and then Latin. The original Hebrew CHAIT means to miss or to make a mistake. The bible was written because it recognizes we often miss the mark and make "mistakes". People don't "sin." People make mistakes albeit some terrible ones ;)

Post image is so attractive

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@gavvet
It is also important to emphasize that sin existed long before Adam and Eve. In heaven, sin has found a place. Can we understand that? It is certainly something beyond our human understanding. God punished billions of angels by driving them out. I think that the most disastrous consequence of sin is to be separated from the glory of God.

sin will also have a bad effect, the culprit, the basic example is adam and the air, how the evil received by both after sin, how the prophets lut destroyed by the flood due to the sins they committed .. for me sin is the darkness in the world.

Thank you @gavvet.

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