The evolution of Adam - The need for a Redeemer

in religion •  7 years ago 

Last time we looked at the biological purpose of death and its absolute necessity in an environment with finite resources.

A couple of posts before that we looked at the forbidden fruit as a means to introduce mortality by means of excising a choice.


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By exercising a choice, the outcome would be brought about by an act of will as opposed to by force.

(agency vs force will be delved into a lot deeper in future installments)

By exercising free will and partaking of the forbidden fruit, mortality or death was instituted on the basis of justice; it being a direct result of ingesting a substance, that would bring about the desired physical changes and result in growth, aging and eventual death.

Justice was satisfied by the fall, but what of love and mercy? How could God claim to be just but also loving and merciful?

Would it be loving and merciful to leave a fallen creature in its fallen state, without providing any means for redemption?

Redemption from the fall would necessitate the payment of a "blood price" or ransom in order to satisfy the demands of justice; otherwise justice would be denied. The extension of mercy would only be possible through the intervention of a third party to pay justice on behalf of the fallen.

Only then could demands of Justice and Mercy be fully satisfied.

We saw that prefigured through the issuing of a coat made of animal skin to cover them.

Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

A metaphor for how the shedding of the blood of an animal, would provide covering and protection, not only from the physical elements, but also from the vulnerability, nakedness and guilt they felt as a consequence of disobedience.

A prefigure of the blood that would be spilled to cover all sin and that self sewn fig leaf aprons, would not cover.

In the same context we find a similar prefiguring:

Genesis 3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

There would be enmity between the serpent and the seed of the woman, which would involve bruising of heels and crushing (more explicit in the Hebrew)of heads.

This imagery was not lost on later biblical prophets:

Isaiah spoke of a coming messiah that would be "bruised".

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

The entire chapter is a beautiful poetic prefiguring of the Savior and Redeemer

Paul would later say; to the indicating of exactly who the serpent in the garden account represents:

Romans 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Next time we will delve into just how "redemption from death" could be brought about by the Son of God

Previous parts of this Series.

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Where do these notions originate?

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Delving a little deeper

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Into the detail

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Some conclusions

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - Some more conclusions

Were the seven days of creation in Genesis seven twenty four hour periods? - The implications.

The evolution of Adam - a conundrum

The evolution of Adam - Who is Adam

The evolution of Adam - Two trees and choice

The evolution of Adam - Partaking of the fruit and feeling naked

The evolution of Adam - Was there death before Adam

The evolution of Adam - The biological purpose of death.

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old school

really!!

yeah, pretty old school education. more than 2000 years at least

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Hence Jesus becoming mortal to experience what humans do?

That and a few other interesting things

Thanks for the interesting articles, i am enjoying them.

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Estimado @gavvet, ¿Este pasaje de Hebreos 2.14 representa lo que el mismo autor señala en Hebreos 9.26? el cual dice:
"26 De otra manera le hubiera sido necesario padecer muchas veces desde el principio del mundo; pero ahora, en la consumación de los siglos, se presentó una vez para siempre por el sacrificio de sí mismo para quitar de en medio el pecado" Si esto es así, el diablo (He. 2.14) es el mismo pecado (He. 9.26) ¿Está entonces destruido y sin tener efectos sobre nosotros? ¿Ya no hay diablo? ¿Ya no hay pecado?

Interesting post @gavvet. These are questions I have been pondering for a long time, and finally getting some personal understanding of them for myself.
Having been brought up catholic, and then widening my enquiry over the years, I have found some correlations from other philosophies and science that support the idea of the creation.
I have found the Gnostic story of Gaia Sophia's fall from the Pleroma, ( creational center of the universe, which could also be a metaphor for the Garden of Eden) was due to her "attachment" to what she had created, ie she was drawn to tasting the fruit of creation,( tasting the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil, ie judgement) and the lesson from that is for us not to be attached to (judge) our creations or outcomes we desire.
In buddhism the aim is non-attachment, and christ's lesson of giving up his life on the cross, was similar a example, giving up his desire ( attachment)for life in the service of others.
Eve's wanting to partake of the Tree of Good and Evil, suggests that by, knowing of the choice of, or judging what is good and bad, she then does not allow the divine flow to take its course, in which there is no good and bad in the Garden of Eden..
The 7 days and 6 nights, as a metaphor for the timing of creation, has been investigated by Dr Carl Calleman, in his 40 years of studies of the Mayan cosmology, and he certainly supports the idea of a Purposeful Universe, ie there is a Divine Plan, as do lots of others.
By naming the designer as "God", then this puts us in the position of trying to get our head around, who or what is God ?.. and could limit our perception of this word .. unfathomable ?... unknowable ? .. infinite ?.. unnameable ? or limited, by it being my God, who is different to your god, and that other fella's God .. all these uses of the word are limited to an idea, for something that cannot be named..
I am interested in the work of Teilhard de Chardin, a priest, whose philosophies were developed as a stretcher bearer in the First World War, witnessing the carnage of death in the trenches as the shells came down. And finding his God in that place. he was also a Paleontologist, ( someone who studies fossils to understand evolution).
The church tried to stop him sharing his idea's by sending him to outback China. However in doing so, he continued his research in Paleontology (someone who studies fossils )and discovered Peking Man, an ancient example of a pre-homosapiens.
This it actually supported his idea's of a divine evolution.
As we are all expressions of Divine Evolution, our choices are important to how it all turns out..
As I am not a writer and new at this, I have been trying to get these musings down in separate posts, to allow discussion but am still learning how to use steemit. So I took the opportunity to respond to your posts to get me started, so I thank you for that.

Common archetypal themes point to common origins and universal principals.

I'm an amateur Paleontologist

Fossils, in my mind, are another "breadcrumb trail" that God has left us to explore and expand our understanding of his handiwork.

As do all his works, fossils and the evolutionary processes they reveal "declare His glory"

The earlier posts in this series discus these ideas in more detail.

Thanks @gavvet. Yes, I agree, I think there are many breadcrumbs for us to follow. Such as my following the breadcrumbs and coming across your post. Appreciated. ))

depends who you ask...

How deep have you personally dug into the subject?

Far deeper than I think you suspect...

I would love to see some post dedicated to that study.....

Which aspect? its vast.

Well maybe the evolution of the bible and how it started from the books in it to what it is today in its many forms. If you wish to single in on a certain one or few ideologys to narrow it I can understand that. From when it decided to first put the book together, when, how it changed and branched, and what it is today.

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Nice work. I did not read the previous posts related to this subject I might go back and read it.
But for now, I have a question for you. How do you define the word or the concept of justice?
For example spilling the blood of an animal to protect us from the elements is a just act? “Redemption from the fall would necessitate the payment of a "blood price" or ransom in order to satisfy the demands of justice; otherwise justice would be denied.” Who is qualified to defined justice and whose perspective we should take. The animal, the human, the lord….or else.
Second question. Since God is so merciful and loving, Why does he need ransom to forgive and redeem. I am apparent, and if my child makes me angry for doing something I told him not to do, an apology and a promise not to do again is enough for me to forgive him. Would not this be more logical for God to do; just forgive when someone repent.

Justice, phrased in the language of science would be a macro universe that is deterministic, in other words, set actions will always lead to set outcomes.

Basically, "what you sow you reap"

Mercy may not "rob" justice because that would destroy justice or the determinism and predictability. That is why a 3rd party is required to intervene an satisfy the demands of justice on our behalf on condition of our repentance.

The third party who pays the price is then able to extend mercy and stipulate the conditions on which remission is granted.

Animal sacrifice was only symbolic of the "great and last sacrifice" that was to come, that would be infinite and eternal and would enable the settlement to justice by the third party.

The innocent that suffers is similarly "owed" a debt by justice and that is how the books are balanced.

Interesting and sophisticated definition of justice. However Things gets bit more complicated when we add deterministic and predictability to it. “Set actions will ALWAYS lead to set outcomes”. This will eliminate the principle of free choice. This definition only makes sense to those of strong faith who believe in a bigger story of creation. Someone like average Joe is looking for more practical definitions of terms and concepts, and justice in this life, would ask can I have a definition that relates to my life? I would say "what you sow you reap" is simple enough for Joe. Still this also requires strong belief in the afterlife and Joe is not interested.
So when the judge says justice is served, what kind of definition he has in mind for the word justice. Can we have a global agreement on what this “justice” is, the one the judge is talking about? May be if we do we can live together in peace, all faiths, nations and all of humanity. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.

Very interesting perspective especially for me. Was born and raised in a remote place where religion was (and partially still is) everything. Science was the most confusing subject when I was in primary school yet so intriguing... Balance was found when I grew up and started filtering what I listen to or believe in. Though Christianity still means a lot to me, science also helps a lot in understanding some things. Crucial one being HIV is a virus not witchcraft!

Thanks for sharing!

Science broadens the depths of my understanding of doctrine.

My whole paragraph in one sentence!

pretty impressive @gavvet
For balancing the nature, deaths as well as births are important
Because this is the rules of nature that if someone come on the earth, definitely that will die on the right time.

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for us the Muslims the story of adam and his wife is also told in al qur'an al karim, which tells adam and his wife is incited by shaitan to eat the fruit that is forbidden by Allah in heaven, so adam and his wife eat the forbidden fruit and descended to earth by God ... this story is so true that it is told in the Bibel and in the Qur'an

all the gods do there purpose, such as death, the purpose of death is to be able to feel the new world after death, and for the balance of nature.

Thank you @gavvet.

Nice post! You might find this interesting ..


Let me know what you think. Best wishes always :) - @splendorhub

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A lot of these really big ones these have been demonstrated to be fraudulent hoaxes, there is some substance to others.

https://www.sott.net/article/281093-The-truth-about-giant-skeletons-in-American-Indian-mounds-and-the-Smithsonian-cover-up

This is a very interesting topic. I have come across many more articles that show a cover up from revealing the truth about the giants (previous) existence. Thank you for sharing :)
Best wishes, - @splendorhub

sunday school great sharing

great post :)

Jesus has been around since the days of Adam...as first the word,then the lamp (which in almost every book in the Old testament talks about sacrifices (which is the shedding of blood you spoke about) and then as a man. Still...even as man Jesus shed blood for us.

Thank you for you post :)

The double standards and fake pretences of men is an absolute killer.

I remember the previous post, this is more about people's need of personification with divine forces. Thank you for the post, I like your style!

@gavvet before I thank you for this post
I have read the whole of this post
but I get about the god firm you mentioned in this post.
can you specify letters and verses about the word of God?

@gavet why does Adam and Eve correspond in part to Geb and Nut or to Osiris and Isis. Adam and Eve had three male sons: Cain, Abel and Seth. Geb and Nut had: Osiris, Seth, and Horus. The egipcian culture giver birth to the Catolich Romanic?

cultures/mythology/religions burrow a plenty... and point to a common origin.

Similarly to how many cultures have a great flood in their mythologies as well.

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Hey my friend.

I saw some of your posts before. I got catched from the biblical tittles.

I have to say that I​ didn't​ have read all of it. But I'm​ just curious​.
And want to ask you: Are you a Christian​? Do you call yourself one?

Or are you someone who is just interested in this topic​?

Christian of the Mormon variety.

I served a mission and was married in the temple. Have left the church but still love most of its concepts.

Pity

I don't know I'm pretty content. I still have the missionaries over from time to time and enjoy talking to them. I keep it friendly and don't debate.

Now I​ understand.
Thanks for telling me.

that's nice to hear with you @gavvet i though you are buddies, i am wrong...

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Cool Mr. @gavvet...
Like the, evolution by the process of natural selection

A lot of subjective interpretation, based on a book, written at a time we have no comprehension of, probably a collection of beliefs compiled together and given a central theme. That theme being a concept. That said, much has been acumplished by those who are humanists, and much destroyed by others.

I agree.

he additionally himself similarly remove a portion of the same; that through death he may devastate him that had the energy of death, that is, the villain;

I don’t mean this as blasphemy but sometimes I think that perhaps God is a bit of an ass. If He does indeed exist, I think sometimes he could show a little more mercy and perhaps practise a little more of what he preaches.

Or you need to understand methodologies employed a bit deeper.

You're probably right! thanks for the reply!

Religion sometimes gets under my skin. Still a huge sell in poverty stricken communities as 'men of God' propel themselves to riches. I am an operational christian who still can't understand why the same people why people who are supposedly supposed to be guides mislead masses through religion.

I mean... I have seen people quit taking their meds just because someone somewhere said they were disease free because they prayed for them. (Which to me translates into preying on them not praying for them) People are dying over it so science is definitely necessary to combat these beliefs!

Awakening read. Might go back to read the rest :)

Ironically, death itself is a precious gift. It gives meaning to life in a way nothing else can. The fallen angels were willing to give up their immortality to be US for what comes down to be a blink of the eye compared to eternity.

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A god that does not protect people from suffering and evil is either impotent or apathetic. It is logically imposible for a being that is omnipotent and omniscent to exist simulatiously with human evil and suffering. All it would take is a thought to protect every little child that is getting raped right now. but thats too much to spare, unless its some jew long ago. Mortals with limited power protect and prevent evil every day, but a allpowerful being cannot? and dont even dare to say GOD GAVE FREEWILL. like if it is imposible to shield or supernaturally protect people without taking awat the evil doers freewill. its very simple someone is about to get stabbed. and the blade just bends or something. the evil person still has the intent/will to harm but cant. More on demand

Perspectives change when the scope is larger than just a few short years on earth and there is a purpose accomplished by suffering and evil

is your point of view any different from a parent saying to an infant, I will shield you from all of the pain of falling and failing as you try to grow and walk and talk and ride a bike and drive a car on your way to becoming an adult?

sometimes love is not saying to an infant "give up - learning to walk is too hard. it's not worth it!"

it doesn't mean I didn't shed a tear when my kids and now my grandkids come and show me their skinned knees from falling off the bike as they learned to ride. yes I cared and yes I loved them - I cared and loved them enough to run beside them and support them as they learned to ride a bike - but - there comes a time when I must step back and let them go, if they are to learn how to become better bike riders, to avoid future spills and skinned knees.

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I believe the assumption of finite resources is fundamentally flawed. 😀 😃 😄 😁 😆Such a mindset leads to behaviour and results and thinking which are inherently limited. In order to create, we must think different, and the possibilities are endless! hope you have a WONDERFUL day!!!

very nice and interesting post.
I will still read it in every post you send.
Thank's @gavvet

Only because Jesus can on this earth and shed his blood on the cross can we be saved.
boldKeep up the good work
Matt 10:32
Therefore whoever confesses me before men, him i will confess before My Father who is in heaven.
I didn't make that up I'm quoting Jesus Christ

@gavvet,
Actually this is a very interesting topic to me! But I don't have a proper idea about Christian religion! So, I will read your comments and discussions!

Cheers~

I like very much this story, Thank you for it @gavvet

great post @gavvet

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تقريبا اكثر من 3 شهور ولم اتحدث معك صديقى
طمنئى عليك

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is it true...??

good post friend...

"A metaphor for how the shedding of the blood of an animal, would provide covering and protection, not only from the physical elements, but also from the vulnerability, nakedness and guilt they felt as a consequence of disobedience" -Each living being has the right to live. Thanks for sharing.

Animal sacrifice was only symbolic of the "great and last sacrifice" that was to come, that would be infinite and eternal

Amazing @gavvet

fantastic post really enjoyed reading it

Wow!!!! it looks lovely..........

@gavvet where do tend to fall on the spectrum of calvinist - arminian? I've always found the distinction between free will and sovereignty a fascinating subject.

great post @gavvet

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God is great,he is unquestionable and omniscience.

Very Nice Post

THANks for this article. Such a very interesting. @gavvet

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Thank God for our lord jesus christ our redeemer

thanks for sharing kind of information with us,
hope it will change people thought

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John 3:16 "For God so Loved the world, he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life."

I read your previous post and enjoyed it so much that I was impatient to read the continuation. Thanks for sharing. God bless you.

The best thing that happen in this post @gavvet is the sharing the word of God.Thank you sir for sharin.

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This is indeed an interesting one sir, thanks for sharing :D

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to God all the glory

Hi @gavvet indeed this post of yours is ideal because it has clearly outlined the evolution of Adam the first man on earth and how he latter fall short of the glory of God through disobedience and sooner the redeemer come on earth to save us from our sins through his crucification on the cross here on earth perhaps its a high time people start believing there is a God,lastly @gavvet trully this was a very touching post well done keep it up.

Interesting stuff. Where do you get your inspiration?

God tests the people for His obedience.

Amazing post @gavvet This is heart touching
"Save the animals and birds life and mainly don't destroy the forest and nature.beacause if anything that die on earth and in another place anyone is born this is the nature of earth.A kindly request to all human beings " don't destroy forest and don't kill the animals"🙏

on the matter of blood price paying for sin

I recently saw a movie called King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. In that movie, there is an tyrant sorcerer-king whose biggest boosts to his power came from sacrificing people he loved. His wife and eventually their daughter, to be exact. Much is made of the pain he suffers from committing these heinous acts.

He is opposed by a young rebel "The Born King." The young man too is haunted by sacrifices of life and limb that his followers/fellow rebels make in his name. Much too is made of his pain regarding these weighta on his conscience.

The contrasts are interesting, the similarities more so. The sorcerer-king in particular gets to a point where he seems to not even remember why he started on this path in the first place, just that he must justify all the atrocities he has committed by committing more in order to get to the end. Gain the power. Burn the future to redeem the past.

I mention this because God in your writing above created all the concepts in question: justice, redemption, falling --> all were,in form and substance, made by God.

God does not suffer under the same problems as our protagonist and antagonist above. Sacrifice, to my mind, is unavoidably transactional: give yourself and gain your desire. Burn your time and gain a salary. Burn the TV and gain muscle in the gym. Burn the witch and save the village.

We as humans have to sacrifice to get what we want: time for knowledge, money for power, pain for strength. God doesn't. So why insist on it?

You cannot build the maze, build the rats and then punish the rats for not doing what you want.

pretty impressive @gavvet
For balancing the nature, deaths as well as births are important
Because this is the rules of nature that if someone come on the earth, definitely that will die on the right time.

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So nice post and good elaboration about Adam...Most of religions in this world believe that Adam is the first man in this world that's why The theory from Darwin was denied and people claimed that He is crazy. Maybe every religion has different story on how God sent out Adam but at least people believe that he is one of the man who get the first punishement from God to a human. I think you believe in it, don't you @gavvet ?

i love reading about the bible...I once lived in ministry and preaching the gispel...if I have some days to go back to...it is in ministry

Interesting article

I have many question bothering in my mind

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If this is an article taken from a Christian perspective, please mention clear and loud JESUS CHRIST, our Lord, Saviour, the way, the truth and the life. Did you notice that in your article (apart, indirectly, the quote from Paul) you never directly mention Christ who is, or should be, the center of your argument?
Plus I don't agree in God being just and not loving and merciful..is He merciful only for the clothing of Adam and Eve? Genesis is way deeper. And especially let's not forget that the concept of freedom enters in the game. Adam and Eve suffered the consequences of their free choice, first of all.
I see that you're very much followed, I'm happy for you, but you then have the responsability to go into depth with these argument you deal with, even more becouse the audience nowadays is not really prepared on these topics. What you're doing is evangelisation so push yourself further or don't do it.

Patience, this series is a journey... not a single event

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excellent article @gauvet! great food for thought. before I read your post it slipped past me the symbolism of the animal skins.

One, probably two, animals suffered, shed their blood and gave their lives as a direct consequence of the choices that Adam and Eve made, choices that were contrary to the will and the commandment of God.

Likewise Jesus Christ suffered, shed his blood and gave His Life to cover the consequences of our choices that are contrary to the will and the commandments of God.

"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

1 Cor 15:21-22 KJV

Thanks for the posts

great post,,

very neat writing, which is very easy to understand. and also very well educated. You are a great writer. GOOD LUCK I like you thanks my friend

extraordinary

That's pretty cool

I like how you've summed up the explanation to the verses quoted in the post.

I like the different approaches you took here. By exercising a choice, the outcome would be brought about by an act of will as opposed to by force. So in essence we choose the kind of life we want live. The life of Christ or otherwise. Be christ-like or not. And this, the choice, brings about different results.

exactly

Wow, this post I had to read several times, finally I did get it,.. It could be the drinks from yesterday ,...... But interesting. How should it look when it was all written over ?

Very Well explained, Thank you!

interesting post as always @gavvet. Thanks for always sharing your thoughts as it is really helpful to understanding some tiny details that we most time hurry over.

if you permit me, i will like to say that hidden in Genesis 3:15 is more than just the redemption that Christ will bring but the key to how man can be redeemed.

"And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
IT will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

KJV reports this verse as IT will crush your head! this means that if this is the original translation or the correct line as was spoken by God, then He was refering to the seed of the woman as a product, NOT an offspring. IT will means that it is not an offspring; however, it manifests into an offspring that the devil will bruise HIS heel.

If it is a product, then the woman was capable enough to produce it. while i was thinking of this a long time ago, i came to understand that the IT could be refering to LOVE!

For anyone to be redeemed his has to love. Mark 12: 29-31 shows 29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”

when LOVE becomes practiced, it becomes LIVING. This to me is the translation from the IT to the HIS! This is why the devil goes after homes (marriage) because this is the institution (love) that can take bring redepmtion. Imagine that there was love in this world and everyone practiced it, then we wouldnt have the violence we face today.

Do you also know that it wasnt clear the love Adam had for Eve? Love covers a multitude of sins 1Peter4:8, but Adam was quick to throw Eve off instead of protecting her as love suggest.

well, this is just my opinion. Thank you for the opportunity

very nice

Thank you for enlighten my understanding of the beginnings. One thing we often forget is that death was present in the garden of garden but death had no power till Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit .And so it was man that gave death power over Him. Wonderful topic

for us the Muslims the story of adam and his wife is also told in al qur'an al karim, which tells adam and his wife is incited by shaitan to eat the fruit that is forbidden by Allah in heaven, so adam and his wife eat the forbidden fruit and descended to earth by God ... this story is so true that it is told in the Bibel and in the Qur'an

I ran across this post and was immediately intrigued. I've gone back and started reading your older posts, and I am hooked. I am a christian, but I am also a science teacher with a strong background in the natural sciences. I strongly believe that science and faith are compatible; we just have too many misconceptions (on both sides) that too many people are not willing to give up. Living in "The Bible Belt", I generally keep my ideas about science vs. religion to myself, so I am thoroughly enjoying reading your series. Thank you for the insight!

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Great work

amazing post

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