Mind Fuck of the day.. The lords prayer.

in religion •  8 years ago  (edited)

Matthew 6:9 KJV
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Am I the only one who thought line 12 was suppose to read "And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive them that trespass against us."

Even the KJV bible in my home reads "debts" and "debtors"

Not sure why this interests me so much, just seems odd that so many people use the wrong words when reciting such a popular prayer.

If anyone has an opinion on this please let me know. Give me an upvote if weirded out as well..


Isaiah 11:6
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

This one was odd to me as well. I thought the lion laid with the lamb?

The black eyes kind of seem off too.

very strange.

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First off, the KJV isn't a very good translation of the words used, but regardless of how good or not the translation actually is, using the words "debt" and "debtors" can be considered a reference to the Old Testament practice of the Jubilee, where land was to return to its original owners and debts were to be forgiven.

As to the wolf/lion and the lamb, it's referencing a point in the future (the fulfillment of Heaven) when creatures that are normally at war or violent to each other won't be any longer.

I don't even...

Yea, I will be interested to see if there are any bible thumpers on here who have an opinion.