[WARNING: SCAMMER with reputation score 7] - user @moonflower is fake, yet a (7) !

in scam •  8 years ago 

An introduction post that made over $4000 with 431 (!) upvotes, 110 positive comments and now a reputation score of 7. Introduction post: https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@moonflower/a-new-life-in-maui

Scam Alert

The verification selfie of the beautiful specimen called @moonflower:

The Selfie

Now who do we find on fiverr.com, under the category "Hold Your Sign"?

Exactly!

That's right! You can pay beautiful girls to hold a sign with your text on it.
Which unfortunately has happened for this successful post.

Let's think of this as another lesson in human nature.

PS: Talking about human nature, the investigative Steemian will possibly discover things I'm not proud of. I have learned my lesson, too.

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I would like to point out that blackmail is a criminal offense, regardless of what your intentions were here...

since theyre probably in different states, this would be federal. And fed blackmail i think is only threatening to reveal a crime... agree tho inappropriate.

Good grief. The dramatic twist.

Wow, its funny to see that you sir have tried to blackmail that innocent girl.
do you have proof, that she didn't join Steemit?

but anyway, that you are trying to blackmail someone , and leaving it forever on the block chain seems to be the dumbest thing i have seen on Steemit !!

I think you are the perpetrator here !!! in the countries i life, blackmail is a felony!

so please dont try this again, i am pretty sure that steemit has you ip and you might be reported to authorities...

anyway, i wrote something about reputation

https://steemit.com/steemit/@knozaki2015/steemit-has-introduced-a-new-reputation-score-what-is-it-and-how-can-you-boost-up-your-score

That awkward feeling when the comment has gathered more likes $, than a post :D

Haha... blackmailing vs scammer.

and the plot thickens!

Bad form man...

"Give me money and I will not say anything more about it" is called extortion and really is bad form.

And this is the guy going after me as well. Bye.

Blackmailing is on the same level as scamming.
If she paid you $ 500,00 then you haven't said anything?

It's pretty shitty that you are just telling us now after your blackmail attempt failed.

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Wow, I guess it's inevitable that some scammers will slip through the cracks. Not much grinds my gears cause I know it's the Internet, but this particular behavior is so annoying.

Guess it's time to start offering bounties for Steemians who expose these scams to try and stop any from getting paid out.

I upvoted You

I can't believe you knew about this 2 weeks ago and now you're posting, after being exposed.

That's weak dude, really weak.

Cg

Man this is seriuosly a big problem in steemit. Thanks for exposing them peoples as they not getting a single up-vote from me.
Introduceyourself actually no 1 will get an up-vote from me as of now.
I f*cking made my photo in a mountain of waste in recycle center and they just buy them for $5 and make $4000 return...

This just got me f*ucking angry. I dont want to see how beautiful you or your life is i like all the good and bad sides and shapes... BULLSHIT

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

EDIT. BLACKMAIL?? WTFFFFF

I think fivverrs don;t know why the y do that. but yeah..so fed up with these people....

And many more just like it!

Wow, wonderful drama, a scammer and a blackmailer. Who will win?

Blackmail is not unlawful. We are on the internet which is like being out on international waters. We do not fall under any statutory jurisdiction other than the Steemit terms and conditions. Telling the truth is never evil. It can be unsavory and as a community we can ostracize it but we may not actively harm it. The threat of being exposed is what keeps people behaving out here. No one has positive rights by default. they must be agreed to by all affected parties. I personally believe a better way to profit from finding a scam is to make a post about it and expose it. maybe sell the story to a whale so that it gets better exposure because why should the scammer have payed the ransom? you've already acted in bad faith so who's to say you'll keep your word or maybe ask for more money again and again. If you sold the story to someone else after, they would never know it. You might split some of the ransom to get your customer to co-operate with covering the tracks and pretend they also found the scam on their own.
Also, I am not seeing the scam, what's wrong with hiring a model? did moonflower specifically claim that the pic was her? how do we know the model doesn't also love steem? when a perfume or fashion model represents a product, Is that also wrong? the creators might be nothing like the models and the models might not even like the product. Is that truly a scam?

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Blackmail is not unlawful.

It is in many countries especially those with a common law tradition.

Blackmail is an act, often a crime, involving unjustified threats to make a gain (commonly money or property) or cause loss to another unless a demand is met.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail

We are on the internet which is like being out on international waters.

People are prosecuted for online crimes all the time.
http://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas/Cybercrime/Cybercrime

We do not fall under any statutory jurisdiction other than the Steemit terms and conditions.

Yes you do, indeed the fact that it's happening on the internet allows people to 'jurisdiction shop' as is commonly done with defamation, so posting on the internet is worse since you may find yourself in a legal jurisdiction less favorable than your own.

http://www.commonlawreview.cz/on-selecting-jurisdiction-in-internet-defamation-cases
https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property99/domain/Betsy.html

would you elaborate on your last point there for me? I could see it holding water if they are both for instance American citizens or citizens or countries that have relevant agreements like England or something. But wouldn't that have to be proven? Am I wrong to that you can't assume jurisdiction online?

The plaintiff generally gets to choose jurisdiction online. They only have to come up with a justification for any of the parties involved, even the owners of the website, which the judge in that country will accept, and they can settle it in that court. This is an extremely common practice in online cases which favors the accuser over the accused.

In this case the options would likely be the country @moonflower resides in, the country @r4fken resides in, or the countries the operators of SteemIt.com reside in.

necessarily or probably? As I understand it, unless you differ arbitration beforehand with other contracts such as citizenship, the accused has to consent first.

Rutroh!

To be honest, there are truckloads of such bullshit introductions on Steemit.
They all share the same, default structure: pretty/cute girl telling about the paradise she is living in, in her country, showing photos of nice beach or countryside and some local food etc.
As majority of whales are males, so they jump on such posts like flies to a turd.