Real Science: Hidden Human Cloning Labs

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So... this is one of those rabbit hole deals.

I went looking for something and after just a little bit of research I was pretty amazed about the amount of information that is readily available about specific cases of human cloning, including names, locations, and testimonies.

Curiosity is piqued by the white rabbit, and before you know it you're smoking hook with a caterpillar.

When it comes to the three primary claims of Donald Marshall, most people are fine with the Illuminati stuff: powerful secret societies are a fact of life in our culture, as I outline in one case in my previous post, Secret Societies: Bohemian Grove.

The reptilian humanoid stuff (Vrill) is much more challenging, and there are segments of society who are simply not going to consider that vs others that are more open to the possibility.

But when it comes to the idea of human cloning, I think many people simply find the subject too challenging and are more likely to ignore it, not because they believe it isn't happening (I think if the US government went public and disclosed some sort of elaborate human cloning operation that had been going on for decades, the public would be appalled but not surprised that the technology existed... if that makes any sense) but because they are not prepared for the ramifications.

SO!

At the risk of triggering some cognitive dissonance, I'm going to talk about just one little story about a secret human cloning lab in the United States.

Uncovering a hidden lab


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What started off my research was this ABC News article, Uncovering a Hidden Clone Lab, which references a U.S. Congress hearing on human cloning which took place in 2001 and a woman named Brigitte Boisselier, who

is a French chemist and Raëlian religious leader best known for her claim to have overseen the creation of the first human clone.

Interview on C-SPAN -- I recommend watching it.

According to the article:

"[Boisselier] gave many clues in that testimony," says Joe Lauria, a U.S. correspondent with the Sunday Times of London who pressed to find the lab's location for the British paper.

At the hearing, Boisselier said a father had written a letter asking her to clone his 10-month-old son who died during surgery to repair a defective heart.

Boisselier, a member of a cult called The Raelian Movement that proposes humans are the cloned creations of advanced extraterrestrials, never named the father or the location of the lab. But she did hint that her letter writer was a local legislator somewhere in the United States.

Ok woooooooah hold on just a second!

The Raelian Movement ? First off: what the hell is that?

Raëlianism


Raëlism (also known as Raëlianism or the Raëlian movement) is a UFO religion that was founded in 1974 by Claude Vorilhon (b. 1946), now known as Raël. The Raëlian Movement teaches that life on Earth was scientifically created by a species of extraterrestrials, which they call the Elohim. Members of this species appeared human when having personal contacts with the descendants of the humans that they made. They purposefully misinformed early humanity that they were angels, cherubim, or gods. Raëlians believe that messengers, or prophets, of the Elohim include Buddha, Jesus, and others who informed humans of each era. The founder of Raëlism received the final message of the Elohim and that its purpose is to inform the world about Elohim and that if humans become aware and peaceful enough, they wish to be welcomed by them.

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Here is there symbol.

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Their beliefs range from government structures where geniuses have the exclusive right to rule and women can go topless.

They also have a very keen interest in human cloning. It is part of their religious goals to emulate what they believe were the intelligent designers of humanity, the Elohim, who cloned humanity from themselves.

So the impetus for this whole human cloning thing (at least as is publicly recorded in this case) comes from a religious cult with about 90k followers worldwide.

Just keep that in perspective.

Another thing to consider is the reason that Boisselier gives in her interview as to why she would want to clone a human in the first place:

I had to do it. Four years ago when I heard the old establishment saying "this is so bad" and all these things, I said "I have to do it and show that this is only a baby."

Discovery of the lab in West Virginia


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Researchers used Boisselier's story about the father with the 10-month-old baby that died who wanted a clone to compare to cases in the news of people who lost infants at that age due to heart failure.

They found a former West Virginia state legislator and congressional candidate named Mark Hunt

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Lauria further discovered in a Charleston phone directory a listing for Bioserv, Inc.—a company Boisselier claimed to have started with the letter writer. A call to the company was answered by a building manger who confirmed that Mark Hunt paid the rent on the building.

"It was spooky," says Lauria about discovering the connection and the lab's location. "I realized I was the only person in Charleston, West Virginia — other than Mr. Hunt and his law partner — who knew what was going on."

I feel for Mr. Hunt.

Losing a child at that age in that way must be such a heartbreaking experience. I can sympathize with how it could cause someone to become obsessed with the idea of getting your child back, writing the injustice of nature. So I cast no judgement on the sorrow of a father who lost his son.

West Virginia attorney Mark Hunt, who funded a secret human cloning lab that was recently exposed, says he has not given up hope that he will one day produce a clone of his baby son.

"I am not going to start up another laboratory," says Hunt, who served three terms in the state Legislature. "However if the technology would become available in the future, we certainly would never give up on our son."

Racing for the Human Clone

"I think any parent would do everything in their power for their child," says Hunt. "So the least we can do for him is try to reproduce something from his body that would give his genetic makeup, his DNA, a chance to go on."

The Hunts agreed to pay Boisselier up to $5,000 a month and to fully finance a cloning lab. They also helped form a company called Bioserve, which would offer cloning services to other clients after successfully cloning Andrew.

Hunt and Boisselier eventually had a falling out, as Hunt saw Boisselier acting as a promoter for her own religious beliefs rather than a pure proponent of scientific advancement.

Her interests in the press have been to forward and promote her religion, more than forward and promote the science," says Hunt.

Because of this along with FDA regulations restricting the practice of human cloning in the US, Hunt shut down the operation and, as far as we know, has not attempted to set up another one.

What do you think?


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As I mentioned, I have sympathy and feel compassion for the Hunts and what they've gone through. I imagine that such a tragic experience can cause someone to diverge from their preexisting religious beliefs if it means that they could possibly get their son back (even though a clone would just be an identical twin).

But all of this weird cult stuff of Boisselier's that's woven into the whole thing really gives me pause. Doesn't it always seem to turn out that such advancements in science that would have been considered "blasphemous" at the time come from some sort of mystical vision of the scientist or can be traced to some cult or secret organization?

also, Boisselier is 62 years old and looks like this.

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That alone strikes me as a little bit odd...

BUT! Let me know your thoughts in the comments below.

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There is alot of speculation about cloning in the music industry and hollywood... thx for the info and resources.

Yeah, I'm going to have to get into that soon.

Seems to me that if human cloning is possible....secret human cloning labs are inevitable. I'd be surprised if they haven't been around for a long time. All made possible by secret societies of course.

They say the technology we're aware of is decades behind the real cutting edge.

Absolutely....I thought about this regarding the supposed upcoming 'singularity'. I wondered if it is indeed the case that we're decades behind the real tech...is it not then reasonable to preclude that this singularity may well have already occurred. Strange thing is that the more one knows...the more one realises how little one knows.

If Cloning is true, it's a good news especially to those who lost there love one's at early age, like Hunts case.

I'd say that's debatable. There are many problems that arise if that possibility is actualized.

The U.S. Congress hearing on human cloning was quite interesting! I hadn't realized back then (in 2001) this was happening. Makes you think for how long and how much information is being hidden from us.

Exactly.

Grabbin' my tinfoil hat :D Thanks for the article !