What if....

in snark •  6 years ago  (edited)

*stole the photo from another post...


What if it isn't the lack of content, or the features of the site, or the unfairness that is keeping users from staying....

(if they aren't) Does anyone know what other social media site's use as an acceptable churn rate?  

What if the real problem is the constant drama and complaining. What if the focus on quality content is intimidating, the constant questioning of what everyone else is earning and doing...    

What if the Steem Justice Warriors (SJWs) are the problem? 

You know them:    The ones that are constantly attacking the quality and quantity of everyone else's post.  Proclaiming they are the only ones who understand how this site can grow.  (usually geared towards whatever content they create)  Those who shame others for their behavior, call everyone who isn't doing it exactly their way is a scammer and ruining everything.


What if they are the reason we can't have nice things?  




Oh.. Mighty knowers of quality, what if you are the problem?  Or at least part of it?

Yeah, this post was a bit snarky...

@whatsup



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I think we do need better training and more and effective retention efforts.

In my experience by being a recruiter, most of my invitees have gone away because they thought it was going to be easier, and some didn't even start because of my warnings of how hard it is at the beginning for people without much of a community to start from scratch.

I've asked many of my indirect invitees and they say that they are frustrated because they can't get money. In fact, the drama and lack of content haven't been a complaint. I've had the excuse of bought votes, inorganic sorting of posts and other similar arguments pointing toward the artificiality of the platform.

But the fact remains that people are not attracted to this platform yet like the are to reddit. It's intimidating overall in both versions of the issue.

TL;DR: Mass adoption takes time and it sucks to be an early adopter but it has its advantages and rewards.

Reddit was still disgusting by its 2nd year, if i remember properly, the platform started picking up around 2012, by its 4th or 5th year, then it reached critical mass and the explosion of users was amazing, i remember people celebrating the first subreddit to be over 1 million accounts after a few years of reddit opening but it took less than half that time to get the first sub over 10 millions subscribers...

Just like youtube, people in 2010 and 2011 where celebrating 1m subscribers like you just broke the worlds biggest record and now we have people all over the place with 20m+ subscribers...

My point is, these sort of social platforms take time and resources to build and a lot of input from the community is required and i think we are ok on that part and the people that want to stay will stay, if they don't they will regret it, since we are still in the early adopter phase.

I think the main cause of all the crying is that the platform is not beating reddit yet and people are complanining about these things because, sincerely, the crypto world has spoiled us to incredible growth rates but if you follow @penguinpablo reports, you will notice a healthy and steady grow in active users overtime and that will probably continue until we reach a point of critical mass and the platform goes viral.

Drama hasn't been a complaint I've seen anyone who left make either. Shitty front page ("nothing that interests me") is a common complaint. On Reddit they mock us for circle jerking, not for drama, which of course is a bit funny given that Reddit is full of circle jerks.

It was good snarky :0)

Kids will be kids and they will fight it out, they are just louder right now because there are not enough voices around to make them insignificant, do you happen to remember the early days of youtube? one drama fight after the other, the chains of response videos of everyone hating each other and fighting over how the platform should grown and how the creators should be rewarded was hilarious... There's still some of that here and there if you dig deep enough but its no longer in the spotlight since they are just a tiny minority at this point...

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. You don't have to create a whole 90 minutes movie to make a quality post on Dtube. Why do people watch fail videos? A 20 seconds fail video clip that makes someone laugh is quality too. Even a 2 sentence joke is quality content. Even this comment here.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

I guess I'm not seeing a lot of the complaining that I see the other people talking about. Of course, I don't look outside of my own homepage very often. But most of the people that I'm friends with don't complain much. Then again I guess I'm not friends with very many minnows. I do see some people powering down though. I've also noticed a couple of people leaving lately.

You have correctly said the underlying issues.

What if we judge the performance based on a average threshold, but again who will set that threshold as threshold is also a varying parameter for persons to persons.

Again good quality blogging is not everyone's cup of tea but in the democratic eco system we count on everyone when it comes to community....

So the jitters and litters continues...let the decentralized platform decides on its own before being prejudice.

Thank you.

Snarky yes, but I like it too!

I feel ya man, we each have to be responsible for our own attitude. So if we bring a bad attitude well we're probably going to fail 😂

I think that this platform has a lot of rewards and potential for human adults

There is a very cruel phrase of Stalin that says something like: "while there are men there will be problems, if you eliminate the men there will be no problems"

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

You just found out the real problem.

@whatsup,
Not only "Steem Justice Warriors (SJWs)" I hope to see STEEM Avengers in near future :D

Cheers~

I won't deny it has an effect. I've often thought that in some cases people have much too high of standards. At the same time, there's absolute shit in trending.

The problem with this post is it only has two images. That's no way to grow the platform.

We always start by asking what, but the answer is rarely convincing and correct. It is an important subject. Thank you

Yes, you said it in an great way, yes, work is an work, and everyone is good at something and everyone is using strategies to move up, and in my opinion that's nothing wrong, and we are no one to judge anybody. So the important thing is let's come up with more ideas and let's make this platform competitive in great essence and in every field, let's make Steemit an Platform of, Investor, Business, Art, Music, Education and many more and economy as an whole, and let's create an new and better giant platform of this world. Thanks for sharing and wishing you an great day. Stay blessed. 🙂

your writing is correct and real

I am Pricasso most wonderful artist and as promised in your honor and dedicated to you a most wonderful masterpiece...

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Your blog here..

https://steemit.com/art/@pricasso/my-ode-to-whatsup

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Humans can argue about anything.If there is no real reason to fight they will create one.It's sad to see people being destructive for the platform while screaming about keeping it in good shape for future.The only long term inside threat for us is abusing selfvoting and bidbots(ABUSING).Just focus on things that you can do and stop attacking everyone around you for fuck sake.Interesting thoughts@whatsup as always🤔

Hiya @whatsup

Yes, all the airing of dirty knickers in public (and often on Trending) is definitely gonna be off-putting to newcomers. When I first joined it was hard to find content I was genuinely interested in because every other post seemed to be bitching about something or someone. Learning how to use the tags helped a bit but I see what you mean about first impressions.

I think the problem is that drama is good for views/upvotes/comments. Anything that's good for the immediate gains is gonna be tempting for Steemians looking for a bit of attention.

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So.. you're saying it's the classic success VS envy problem.. but how do you solve that problem?