What is Going On With Arsene Wenger?

in soccer •  7 years ago 

Who to blame?

I think it's extremely hard to blame only one person, the team or the board, therefore it's of course a collective failure we are witnessing. Even though Arsene Wenger takes most of the blame, and I think he should, he is not the only one to blame. When you are the manager for one of the biggest clubs in the world, you also sign up for being the face of Arsenal, and the person who will have to deal with the blame. Therefore let's start with the french man.

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Arsene Wenger

The problem is that Wenger is too stubborn and too loyal to his players. Being loyal to your players is not a bad thing, but it becomes that when you resist to play a better player or acquire new players. He believe so much in the potential of the players, that we have to go through a phase of watching a player develop to his fulliest potential in the Premier League. In the Premier League you dont develop players unless they are the fucking next Messi. Take Szczczesny for instance. He was our no. 1 keeper for some time. Never was he a top six goalkeeper during that time. Arteta was aswell never a top 4 midfielder. Still he played every game. He might have been a good captain, but in Premier League you need more than the ability to shout. There was a time when Ramsey, and Özil played as wingers. Why the fuck do you play players out of their favorite position? In that strong belief in the players lies a huge gamble. A gamble of trying to play his players out of position, and hope they will perform. They never did. The greatest managers in the world play his players where they perform the best. Take no risk, unless you have to.

I, myself, is a manager for a team. When we are playing a game I adjust the team maybe 20-30 times during that match. Arsene Wenger sits on his ass during 88 munites of the match. Arsene, do you know why you are the manager? Because the club has decided that you are tactical smarter than the whole team. That's why you are the manager. Because you are tactical superior, motivate your players, and improve them when they fail. If you watch Zidane, Kloop, Conte etc. They are adjusting the team all the time during those 90 minutes, because even the best players in the world can lose/forget their role during the heat of the game. They might not position themselves right and therefore adjustments are needed. Again it's Wenger's belief that's the problem. He believes and thinks the players are capable and should be of adjusting by themselves. Sometimes they are, but a lot of times they are not. A manager is needed to overrule them all, when they discuss on the pitch. Get off your fucking seat and start being a manager. Now you are just a man who sets the starting eleven, tells them what to do, and then you sit and complain during the game. If they fuck up, adjust. If they do good, tell them to exploit the opponents weakness again. If they discuss, tell them what to do. Be a manager, not a fan.


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Although a rant , I am with you on most of what you said. I can't contest Wenger's knowledge about the game, neither his ability to develop players.

I do have to question though his ability to keep players after he helped them become world beaters, in the last decade we(Arsenal) literally fed Man City and Barcelona with players and only got scraps from them.
We raised Bellerin and he is staying but I am not sure for how much longer as if not for Jordi Alba he would have been back on his way to Barcelona this some, for sure.

They leave because we don't win trophies. It's simple.

I'd say that it's a little bit more complicated, in the sense that players are aware of the status quo within a season, but if during the season you don't even get a feeling like you are competing for the trophies and come summer there are no improvements made towards that goal, that's when human nature would push them towards a club that wants more.

All I am saying is maybe it's not that Arsene is a bad coach, but being here for so long he might have become complacent and so did the team, Wenger has built an amazing platform for someone that wants more .. maybe someone like Thomas Tuchel

He never liked the idea of keep improving. Well he did, but he did in a way that he trusted his players too much. It's been a long time since we have created a superstar in the world.

The game has evolved so much over the last decade, and Wenger is too arrogant to adapt to the change.

He is past his best, it's as simple as that. It happens to managers just as it happens to players.

Totally agree. He wouldn't change for years, and now he has, but it was too late.

I agree with you on what you said about Wenger.

I think the problem with our team is that we have no competition for places and no quality backups.

I think just Iwobi, Welbeck and Walcott compete for places at the moment and some players will always be the pitch when fit because of the difference in player qualities in the team. This is why i feel that some players like Xhaka are too relaxed and have no competition in the team at the moment.

If you take out players like özil, Sanchez, Koscielny and now bellerin just say they have injuries or suspension. You will realized that there is nobody that can fill the gap and play almost equal or equal to these players. Holding plays better with Koscielny on the pitch.

Very valid point! Just a few injuries and we are fucked. City has great depth which might win them the champions league.

"Because the club has decided that you are tactical smarter than the whole team"
Well said 👍

Thanks! :)

I often wish my life would have been a little more like his. I admire his quality and his history. His behavior may be suspect, but we don't know all of the facts - at least I don't. But, you are right! The league is not a place to experiment.

Haha yes. The league is for the best players, and they are not the best if they play in the "wrong" position.

Arsene Wenger is just outdated. And I'm not saying that about his way of leading the team during matches. I'm talking about the whole package, his whole view and philosophy about football. Somebody should tell himnthat everything in this world evolves. He should have done that years ago. Now its too late for him. I feel sorry for the agony that Arsenal fans are living through.

ugh the struggle that we've been going through for the past 5+ years. Yes Arsene's done some great things for Arsenal ( yes partially was due to the fact that we had a great team and a few world class players ) Yes he's had his moments of brilliance but in the past few years we forget about those with the downfalls he's had. Some of the signings have been absolute garbage, some of the formations and where he slots in key players has been baffling. I believe that his impact on Arsenal will always be positive but sometimes we need change, and Arsenal I believe has been needing some change for a while now.

It's not only 5 years. I would say at least 10. But yes, I agree with your points. Let's start again with a victory against Bournemouth :)

I don't even know whats going to happen if we don't win that game!

Agreed but I also think Steve Bould should be more involved. Pat Rice used to do exactly what you are saying and I think Bould should also play his part and not just wipe Wenger's ass.