"Do Lost Sinners Need to Know about Election Up Front?" By Mark McCulley (Excerpt)

in sovereigngrace •  8 years ago 

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Jesus died on the cross. It’s a fact. Is that all people need to know? Fundamentalism attempts to discover the least that can be said. But even if we could discover that “least which can be said” (which Machen says we can’t), why would we then attempt to say the least?

But the problem is not “how much” or “how little” is being taught by Arminians. The problem is that Arminians are teaching the opposite of the truth. Does the holy God of truth save sinners for His glory by using the opposite of the truth?

We need antithesis. Which of the five points believed by Arminians is part of the gospel? If none of them is the gospel, why would we think that those who are teaching those five points are teaching the gospel? This leaves me to ask three more questions.

  1. What is the gospel?

  2. is the fact alone that Christ died the gospel?

  3. Does God save some people without any gospel, even with a false gospel?

Full article may be found on the following link:

https://markmcculley.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/do-lost-sinners-need-to-know-about-election-up-front/

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1 Cor 15:1-8

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

Indeed, in the text you present are essential gospel propositions concerning Christ and the resurrection. One must absolutely affirm these truths to be saved. However, there are additional truths that Spirit teaches a gospel believer that they will in no wise repudiate. I think the following article may be helpful to illucidate those truths from the perspective of none other than the theif on the cross. Thank you for the reply!

https://gospelgblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/12/what-the-theif/

That is the Gospel. It is how the Bible itself defines it. If your question was, "What must I do to be saved?" I might have answered like this:

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

You are intent on adding to the Gospel in order to fit it into your ism. Anyway, I'm not going to read all the articles you keep posting that others wrote. It's no fun if you fail to dialog on your own merit.

As to that, it seems a little against the spirit of this website to accept payouts for posting someone's work that is not your own.

Your Acts 2:31 argument falls flat on its face when we consider there will be many coming in His name. Many false messiahs. Using your argument as a basis, we may as well throw Mormons, JWs, and SDAs in there too. They believe on a Jesus, right? Let's just conveniently overlook that He is not the one of Scripture.

As if professing the name of Jesus means one believes the gospel of Jesus. There is a Christ that saves sinners and it is by grace alone. We are aren't the kind to pay lip service to grace in our fancy theological systems. No, we believe it and thereby have no occasion to boast. It is a miracle! Amen

Neither my brethren or myself care for monetary payouts. They have other endeavors and have consented to my sharing of their materials as wide and far as possible. I for one find Steemit to be far superior to Facebook so I would rather produce and share content here. Don't you worry. As promised, I will get to your objections. I plan to do maybe one a day starting with 1 Tim 2:6

"A Jesus" isn't "The Lord Jesus Christ." They were speaking as Apostles of the very Messiah they were proclaiming, so they would hardly be talking about a Jehovah's Witness version of Him. You're straining at a gnat here. Obviously in order to believe in Jesus you must have a correct understanding of who He is. I would have thought that implicit by the quotation.

Also, I didn't say professing the name of Jesus means you believe. I clearly quoted Acts where it says you MUST BELIEVE.

The Gospels, as I showed the bible defines it is that Jesus died for our sins and was raised from the dead. If you believe that, you are saved. The bible couldn't be more clear. The rest is your ism.

As for not caring about monetary payouts, you could opt out of them if you aren't interested in the money. It's the little drop down menu to the right of the post button when you are posting a new blog entry.

Can't wait to hear your answer to the Bible's objections of your ism. I'll be waiting.

The "Bible's objection". Sure. I think you're just abusing the text to minimize or sweep vital doctrine under the rug if you will. I will counter your objection which is under that guise, of course!

No, sir. I do not minimize or sweep doctrine under the rug. That is what your ism does. That is what all ism's do and that is the problem. As soon as you adopt an ism, you close your mind to critical thinking in favor of blindly following human leaders who are fallible. You use your ism as the lens through which you interpret scripture, and that is not the correct lens. If you're going to use any at all it should be context, as in the original context. That is pretty hard to get to, so most take the lazy way out and adopt an ism.

You are letting a very flawed man who sought to control others determine the context of your interpretation. You pick and chose hermeneutics to make your already in place belief system work.

Unfortunately its a bigoted and exclusionary system.

I say the bible's objection because I can show you where the bible clearly teaches Jesus died for all, in multiple places, and you have to then play some fancy game using outdated lexicons and various other reference materials written mostly by "Reformed" theologians in order to argue against what is clear to anyone with a first grade reading level. Who is the author of confusion?

You could be spending your time and energy preaching the gospel, but instead your preaching Calvinism. You tell people to repent, but most of you probably can't. You insist God chose you but He doesn't want the rest of us.

It is your ism that more closely resembles JW, SDA, and Mormonism in that you need a special book to tell you what the bible means.

I am willing to be convinced based on evidence, but I'm pretty sure you aren't going to come up with anything I haven't seen before. I'm a reformed Reformed.