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on this Post:
https://steemit.com/deutsch/@commentcoin/comment-coin-project-cc-final-release-kristall97-ger-eng
Probably the leader didn't think for a second if he should downvote. This shows that you don't have to research whether these votes come from yourself or are used by REAL supporters of the cause as a DONATION.
I find that a deeply destructive behavior and outside of any "moral" boundaries. I am not annoyed that we have been voted down. Because that is the right of everyone, I am annoyed by the kind how that happened!!
A Downvotetrail with such a size and power to lead behind it under these conditions expels a lot of people. Since we have enough of it here, this is of course no problem. The question why then so many smaller ones should try to get new users on the chain is a question.
Have a nice Day.
Alucian
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THE Edit of STEEMIT.com IS WASTE FIX THIS PLEASE
Don't get distracted from your goals ;) Bid bots are dead and I know that you begin to understand that something needed to be done for saving Steem in the long run.
Your commentcoin project is great and that is what counts. I know it takes a while until one realizes the deepness and what really counts here. Many people here try to convince us from the opposite, but trust me, Steem's image today would have been way better without those bots.
Now it needs to be cured in kind of a poisonous way, but there is no better one for waking people up. Time for real curation is here again and people who still use bid bots are just feeding the old Steem devils. We are no devils who enjoy to eat ourselves. We want this place to succeed finally.
Focus is always the key, so focus on good things and they will grow. Feed the drama and it will grow. I know that you know this already, but I just wanted to remind you of what is really important.
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😎 😎 😎 Da mach ich doch gleich mit. 😎
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Wegen den Bot Upvotes wahrscheinlich (Steemium). Haben aber soweit ich es sehe keine Rewards außer den bot upvotes weggeflagged.
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Die Bots Upvotes muss aber jemand beauftragt haben. Derjenige wird dafür bezahlt haben und somit Leidtragender der Downvotes sein, weil er andere unterstützt hat. Das ist weder Selbstvoting, noch ist es verwerflich, anderen Hilfe zukommen zu lassen. So ging es der Steemillu und auch anderen auch schon in letzter Zeit.
Ich finde das sehr witzig von einem Dienst, der selbst vorher solche Votes verkauft hat, wenn mich nicht alles irrt.
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Das ist richtig. Aber wie sagen die Leute? "Besser spät als nie".
Wer auch immer die Upvotes gekauft hat ist in der Tat der Leidtragende der Flags. Das Ziel der Leute, die geflaggt haben, ist wohl eine Art "Angst" vor'm Vote Kaufen (egal ob für sich oder für jemand anderen) zu erzeugen und so indirekt diese Bots zu bekämpfen.
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So scheint es... Aber unsere Antwort gibt natürlich ein anderes Bild ab, unten in den Kommentaren. :-)
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Das geht hier aber jetzt nicht um den Post, den ICH für gut befunden habe und dem von außen (keine Ahnung, wer) ein Booster geschenkt wurde, oder?!
Alu, das war pure Ironie. Es geht darum, um genau den Post. Weiß nicht, ob jeder die Ironie versteht, ich will damit nur betoen, wie schäbig diese blinde Downvoterei ist. Es trifft nämlich nicht nur die Geflaggten, sonndern auch die, die wegen einer anderen (befürwortenden - auweia) Meinung nun mal gevotet haben...
Grrrr 🚩🚩🚩
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Deswegen auch der Smiley, der ist für die ganzen Follower gedacht. Dieser Flaggzug von OCB, ist äußerst fragwürdig, zumindest was seine "Bediener" angeht. Aber mal sehen ob sich jemand meldet. Ich glaube ja nicht. :-) Sind doch nur kleine User.
Etwas Recherche woher der Vote kommt, könnte man schon verlangen. Gerade bei so einer gewaltigen Votepower. Seltsam nur das manche andere Posts, die sagen wir "bekanntere" Namen tragen, scheinbar selten geflaggt werden, von solchem Ausmaß(in Prozent gesehen). Das ist halt typisch und zeigt gut, wie man sich da oben verhält.
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People should comment a reason for their downvote.
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Now, they do that... look @acidyo s answer.
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This is sad. I like using CC. ^_^
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Dont be sad, we hold em out. :-)
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Ei, sie lieben dich (oder besser den Post) wohl heiß und innig.
Begründung ist meistens die gleiche, der Reward-Pool soll geschont werden. Na ja, vielleicht sollten diese Herren sich mal selbst dran halten. Gehen mir schon länger auf die Nüsse, von daher willkommen im Club.
Diese DV-Orgie scheint mir ein Trail zu sein, blind vergeben. Denn sie wissen nicht was sie tun, hat schon vor geraumer Zeit ein weiser Mann gesagt.
Wie ich sehe, nimmst du es mit Humor, wohl das Beste was man tun kann. Was nicht heißt, auch auf den Busch zu klopfen ;-)
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Hallo micheangelo3,
man hat uns ja jetzt geantwortet.
Warum man nicht direkt spenden kann und dafür einen Bot benutzt.
Ist doch logisch, dass man vielleicht möchte, das der Post besser gesehen werden kann, weil wir noch ein kleines Projekt sind. Ich finde es nicht verwerflich, angesichts der Monetisierung auch entsprechend zu unterstützen. Mir ist das sogar lieb so, wenn ich es mal sagen darf. Freilich freut uns eine direkte Spende auch, aber sie ist weit aus nicht so effektiv, als würde man uns helfen besser gesehen zu werden.
Ich denke die Sache als zu erwartend und mit Lässigkeit hinzunehmen, ist der richtige Weg. Ich habe mir schon öfter Gedanken gemacht, ob und wieso wir Downgevotet werden könnten. Dieses Szenario allerdings war nicht dabei. Fast schon Schade darum. :-)
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!drama
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:-)
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Didn't they give you an explanation?
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No. :-/ I think they see just the Service Votes and downvote without any second look.
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Can you message Acidyo and see if you can get it resolved?
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He answered now under this post.
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@acidyo is a bit of a hero in my eyes for doing all he has done to get rid of bidbots and promote manual curating. From what I understand the cc project was not downvoted, only a purchase that was made to promote your post? I can understand that happening. The title of your post is a bit misleading if that is the case.
My opinion is that it would be best to let go of this and move forward with your worthy and exciting project.
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I don't make a difference if and why downvoted how much. Downvoting is downvoting. You also have to think about the people who don't have so much knowledge about the blockchain and just see that it was downvoted. I wanted to draw attention to the followers of the trail by post. A reader sees only that it hailed Downvotes, without a word in addition. That makes a bad picture on the project and I won't let that happen without following.
Greetings and have a nice day. ;-)
Sascha
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You provide 166632736.0 CC for your comments.
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Alter wenn ich so was lesen muss.
Was für ein überbordener Hass in mir aufkommt.
Erinnerungen an Diktaturen Diktatoren und ihre Schergen.
Die Schergen der Reichen und Mächtigen.
Und sie bedrohen uns offen und täglich mit kleinen roten Pfeilchen,
und wer mich bedroht, mit verlaub, ist ein Negan.
#WERWEISSNICHASEINNEGANIST ??
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Nicht aufregen ist die Device, ich nehme das locker hin, aber der Post musste sein. Solltest du auch so handhaben, denn es bringt nix sich über solche Machenschaften aufzuregen.
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Die Aufregung ist fast nur SchriftStelleriscH, aber das Maul auf machen, darum ging es.
Und solange diese Leute keine Fakten liefern, dass man ihnen glauben kann oder ihre Art und Weise in eine nette sanfte milde verwandeln, bleiben sie Angst aus lösende Feinde deren Verschwinden auf die eine oder andere Weise, sehr wünschenswert erscheint.
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Recht hast du ja. Aber ändern wird sich erst mal nicht viel für uns kleine Scheißer die nichts zu melden haben. Mal sehen. Man muss das Rad ja nicht neu erfinden. Aber das wird wohl immer wieder versucht. Vielleicht gesellen sich heimlich neue Investoren bei diesen Preisen zu uns? Und dann könnte die "Macht" auch etwas verteilter liegen? Wird spannend bleiben die ganze Sache mit den Downvotes.
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What a sad bunch of people they are. I think Commentcoin is a danger to someone (Kicked against the hurt leg?). This token will we a hit no matter how many downvotes plus it is a good way to curate. I read and easily found better and good posts since a long time. 💕
P.s. I learned it helps to call the downvoters by their name. We can start a blacklist of Steemians who fight against engaging on this platform. 🤔
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I hope this Project is not a danger for anybody. :-) But i understand you. It is not nice to see, "rules" goes over a good spirit of a article.
With the calling of the names i would show the trailpassengers that they should think a little bit about the goal of the train. OCB (we call him so^^ like the cigarette paper) did not remove the downvote. Very sad, but carma comes back everytime.
I see it easy and for the future i spend no more time for a downvoter.
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@alucian Downvoting is fine if there are rules why and the reason given. They couldceasily build that in. Downvote - choose option - plagiarism yext plagiarism photo - no text .. words+. - bidbots.
All those other reasons (bidbot was never mentioned at the start they always preached it was about writing good content) are for disliking a person, etc. Giving your vote to someone else I would not. Your name is still underneath it. ❤️
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That's how I feel. I think the downvoting is part of it. Only these trails are always very questionable. Also for upvotes. I never used one for myself and don't intend to, but I like to do everything manually. Because so I can stand for my decision myself and do not have to blame others for it.
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Same here, I like to vote myself. That is why curating brings me zero same with writing btw. 🙂
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I would like to hear an explanation for the downvote.
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It is one thing to make a direct donation and another to give support to a post office so that it can be seen better. Since we don't create the project for profit, nor for ourselves, but to solve a tricky situation, it's good that you get a higher visibility, especially as a "smaller" user, through the votes bought from others. I hope you will reconsider your decision to act so strictly. We have a lot of users that you sell with it. I understand if you want to keep selfdownvotes and bitbots in check, but you don't want to put everything in one place and try to create a moral instance that is simply unstable in the long run.
Greetings
Alucian
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I won't ask anyone for anything I don't want to be asked myself. Exceptions confirm this rule. People like to write about our project and taking away the support votes (no matter where they come from) is to be condemned in any case. I don't understand how you can get so stiff. It will be possible to do a little more research for such a large service and to take for granted the voting services that are certainly used for support purposes. I repeat. You do not know what you are doing. But that does not matter. I will help you one day to find out.
Apart from your/your problem with bitbots, it would at least be appropriate to look at the project or in other cases the post and decide individually!!! what is worth getting paid higher and what is not. That's something that seems to be missing from your rules catalog. But apparently you have created the perfect system to make decisions. Congratulations :-)
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From this side I certainly understand the problem, but there will be no balance. One can downvote as often as one likes, the social damage done will be far higher than the "lost" inflation rate. I think you should be able to use bitbots to help others and know that they can never disappear completely on this system. As far as I can remember ocdb was once a Bidbot service and therefore I find it doubly bad to try to stop other services.
You can do that if you do less harm than good. As I said, in the last weeks since the HF many people have left the Steem again, just because of the downvotes... It is not possible to make a "right" decision regarding this topic Bidbots. I myself might want to use one one one day, because I have something important to write. And then you will see how exactly you take it. Because such a post would get a Declined Payout from me. Would you then also downvote???
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It's like talking to a wall. You say a non-profit project? Then how does the SP get together, one asks oneself? Through charity? :-) It's about individual decisions that have to be made a new in every situation in order to achieve the highest possible balance between for and against each other. Your service is obviously not capable of this and will therefore continue to be feared only for its power but certainly never respected. Don't forget that there are many who feed few, even in this system. It is far from destructive what you are doing according to this catalogue of rules you have put together. This is the result of our conversation. And I'm out with it and say thank you again.
Beautiful Steeming wished.
Volley
Alucian
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Looks like you should to upvote yourself now, to get viewed again. :-)
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Can someone please answer here. My popcorn is getting chewy and I don't like chewy popcorn.
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Exactly that.
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