Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
Moving to hive
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I got two mosquitoes yesterday...
@christisthebest
@dervuptli
but im sure the list is ten times longer. They had a microjob listed at microworkers.com paying 5 cents per completion. So basically Camila Steemer, has an army of people abusing the Steemit Inc Faucet.
I'm going to reach out to microworkers and have them ban that type of gig.
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I already added @dervuptli to my blacklist ... he'll be 100% counteracted for now on ...
I will also add everybody @berniesanders listed in this post. My bots should be counteracting them within the hour ...
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Your help isn't needed here. I've already got it handled. Save your limited VP.
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"Allllllllllllrighty then!" ~ Ace Ventura
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Your intention is well received regardless :)
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Yes, it is.
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@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!
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I just posted another one as a reply to bernie, but just in case - this guy made 371 down votes today.
@alandirlo
Thank you for helping stomp out this stupid behavior.
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@fulltimegeek I wanted to thank you for your support. I noticed that you are supporting my content and I am very humbled by that, It means a lot to me.
Tried to reach you in Discord and Steem Chat but couldnt find you there, so I thought I could do it here.
Again, Thanks!
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You can only find me on the blockchain :)
My pleasure!
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Everyone look at @admiralbot comment so everyone can see the big list from @steemflagrewards.
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@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!
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I'm late to your post. I hope you are still fighting this. Here is one that made 371 downvotes today.
@alandirlo
Thank you for helping us.
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here is another one for today @danstoncul
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thing is they are not posting. I wondered about that microjob listing.
most of those accounts have a steemit user in their profile description. I believe it's just to frame them (most probably) but if that's a microthingy thing idk.
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@altrei - created 2018-07-15
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I just noticed these two: @marcfrelon2 and @jeanmaloro
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http://steemreports.com/incoming-flags-info/?account=battleaxe&days=14
here's my bag of tricks, waves to the Commies
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self aggrandize UV for INFLATION
have a nice day
namaste <3
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I noted 17 of them about a month ago - https://steemit.com/steemit/@remlaps/steemit-sp-delegations-powering-an-emerging-downvote-botnet
They were: marcfrelon2, stormstblogger, steemtwitting, vladimirtopiev, charlesbiters, topfrsteemer, crigmarlo, fongopot, dertluc, magasintop1, geradunlo, worldsteemian, cosmosteemer, nice-steemer, johnrevelator, jeanmaloro, velomasty
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For every bot that helps, I see 50 that are disgusting. Has steemit thought about banning bots entirely? Is there Money in flagging? I am new enough I am still learning. It seems like flagging should cost a little money, to reduce those flags to only the most important ones. Maybe the first couple are free, then they begin to cost more. After ten flags, it should get expensive!
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Flagging does cost voting power, the equivalent of money. Flag are an important part of curation and people also need to understand just as anyone has the right to upvote you they also have the right to downvote you. :)
These flags are only a matter of hurt feelings, and actually, I hope they do some good by normalizing a few flags.
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Most people on steemit will never understand how it all works. Ask @berniesanders.
Inflation is the name of the game. On top of the normal inflation, there is something like virtual inflation of the reward-pool 1 + 1 = 2.
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;) b i n g o
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I agree with this if someone is using their own stake. However, the accounts I noted were all using 14.9 Steem delegations from the steem account when their own stake was just 0.1 Steem. I don't really think that Steemit should continue to sponsor accounts who use their initial delegations in this fashion. (I haven't checked recently to see if those delegations have been revoked) In fact, I think Steemit should have an automated routine in place to identify possible anti-social flaggers and bring their delegations up for review.
Also, even if someone is using their own stake, I don't think there's anything wrong with the community taking note of accounts who are flagging in an anti-social way. It's all public information. If you enter a downvote, you do so with the understanding that the action is recorded on the block chain in public view.
I agree with this:
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You make a good point regarding using steemit, inc's delegation to flag. I hadn't considered that part.
Still, I feel it would be a good culture change to teach new users that flags happen and are a normal part of life on SteemIt, instead of reinforcing the idea that flags are bad and wrong and should envoke a negative response.
They are just a tool for curation and can be used as often as upvotes.
I do appreciate the points you make.
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I have found that if people are hurt by what people write, there is usually some truth to the comment.
Normal flagging is okay, but this Turbo Flagging on Steroids concerns me. That is way past what flagging should be!
:(
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Flagging is just exercising one's influence. I think the system would work better if everyone accepted there are no valid or invalid reasons for flags.
:) I agree some flags are dumb and hurt feelings, but this is how it works.
Posts are open for 7 days, endusers of any size can upvote or downvote for any reason.
Whatever you have left at the end is what is yours.
That is how it works. Which is why I think this round of flagging might be good, so that people get over the strong reaction.
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If feelings are a benchmark... itβs better to disconnect and stay offline. ;)
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I have looked at several pages/that are flagging. They have no posts, and they are (25) just starting out; so it looks to me like someone started these pages, in an effort to attack someone else, from a hidden position.
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Yeah. That is what they did. One does not have to choose to be bothered by it though.
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Not bothered, actually kind of disgusted; sad to see how small people actually are.
:'(
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I joined in July/2016, and the topic of banning bots has been raised repeatedly for the entire time that I've been here. As I understand it, banning bots is impossible, or nearly so. Humans can interact with the block chain at the command line level without using the web site interface, so there's no way to distinguish between a human at a keyboard or programmatic command entry.
Decentralized recaptcha has been suggested, but I don't think the capability exists now, and I sort-of doubt if it's even feasible. Personally, I think that in the long run the good that bots do will outweigh the bad. After-all, things like "Google" and "Facebook" are nothing more than gargantuan Internet bots. Banning bots would just make it harder for entities like that to emerge in the Steem ecosystem.
As @whatsup notes below, flagging is already discouraged by the incentive system. Downvotes reduce voting power at the same rate as upvotes, but they pay 0 curation rewards.
My big problem with these particular accounts wasn't that they were flagging, but that they were doing it mostly with Steem Power that was delegated by Steemit, Inc.
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It is hard, but I still think there should be a balance. If you downvote but never upvote, it should push your value down. You are right, steem does hand you a functional package. They are just using that gift on the dark side.
Small people, but there should be some kind of censure, for this poor use.
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didn't get the point but few of the tards here.
https://steemd.com/@vladimirtopiev
https://steemd.com/@botmaxu745
https://steemd.com/@poritoza
https://steemd.com/@hilonrima
they are downvoting a month old post :facepalm:
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@guiltyparties & @themarkymark compiled a list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgQRvRVXzpBXgAr7vsbWe92fSpeFu_Xc9JR3-tJEanM/edit?usp=sharing
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and we can't append :|
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Those fake ones are hilarious..
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I am sorry you wasted your vote on me... π
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@soma909 you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!
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There was a reason: You're a douchebag who thinks he can talk shit about me and get away with it.
You brought this on yourself motherfucka.
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Your relentless efforts are appreciated.
Here is my list so far:
@cleversteem
@superlove
@botmaxu745
@christisthebest
@dertluc
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@trucmipo and @icebergbitos
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@stormstblogger
@bestwebmaster
@poustackiev
@jeanmarlo
League of extraordinary retards
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I got some accounts to share that i believe are part of the league.
@numerusclosus
@trucmipo
@velomasty
Thanks to GINA i was able to find these easily again lol
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@kissmylips
@carolusmagnus
@zartyo
@magasintop1
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https://steemit.com/@altrei
https://steemit.com/@kissmylips
https://steemit.com/@zartyo
https://steemit.com/@topfrsteemer
https://steemit.com/@steemcorrect
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There are some troll accounts that flagged my posts, but they never make a post, only downvoted everyone like no tomorrow(these accounts downvoted more than 100 posts per day) :
https://steemit.com/@baissetonfroc
https://steemit.com/@velomasty
No idea if these accounts are feces leagues or just troll.
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Received a few flags from these maggots recently, please deal with them in a swift and harsh manner @berniesanders - as always, love your work.
@biendanstoncul
@ytcomcenter2
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No post yet from this one:
https://steemit.com/@gladiatorwork
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A couple more for the fire:
@qsedtylo
@zartyo
@poustackiev
@topfongo1
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@hilonrima
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Yep both of these ...
@dervuptli
@steemtwitting
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The little speck of a nobody @treedain is going full flagtard.
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Thanks a lot for this, @berniesanders. They are silly and harmless flags, but like mosquito bites, very irritating. And then of course, they convey a very negative behavioral culture within the system so getting rid of them is a good thing.
Here are some two which stung me!
@nice-steemer
@charlesbiters
I should be able to add me when i encounter them. Thanks a again.
EDIT
Here is another one just threw his silly flag a few hours ago
@jetenculeprofond
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I got a flag from these 2: @jetenculeprofond and @treedain
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i clocked this one a couple days ago...@ytcomcenter2
what does the mass tiny downvoting achieve from the account holders perspective?
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ditto @ytcomcenter2
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Only 16 days on, this one has been busy.
https://steemd.com/@usertelor
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I got hit by "@crackboom". Don't know if that was a real and serious flag or not.
Edit:
Well... It was not a real and serious flag. Waste them! :D
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Great!
Now, my little minnow counter bots can take it easy. Here's one the SDL hit.
https://steemit.com/abuse/@randohealer/sdl-botnet-downvote-randohealer-report-2018-07-11
Apparently, they didn't take too kindly to our countering their votes.
Thanks to @lyndsaybowes, @ragepeanut, @kaliju and @battleaxe for the delegations.
Let me know if there is anything technical I can do to help.
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List of Active SDL , also known as Phishers Accounts
Here, New One
https://steemd.com/@topmaxsteem
https://steemd.com/@steempioneer
https://steemd.com/@jupitor21
https://steemd.com/@cyberdroid
https://steemd.com/@steempohu
https://steemd.com/@coolanalp
https://steemd.com/@friendtoppriest
https://steemd.com/@fushcarbon
https://steemd.com/@carolusmagnus
https://steemd.com/@fertipo
https://steemd.com/@dertluc
https://steemd.com/@sucemabite
https://steemd.com/@trollshunter
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Here is one to add to your list!!
@steemtwitting
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here are 2 more, sorry if they have already been called out
@jupitor21
@cyberdroid
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Simple! I'll add them to the blacklist I used to counteract Haejin and his squad.
YW Steem ...
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It's definitely related, it's a memo from the SDL. @berniesanders check it out. Don't forget to use a VPN or Tor or something
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One purpose for these bots - impersonate an honest steemian randomly flagging other unsuspecting accounts, who then think that they were innapropriately flagged by the impersonated account
See @cleversteem - impersonating @calluna (an honest steemian)
"Calluna flag bot (25)
Calluna flag bot for spammers"
100% fake
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Thank you so much for bringing this one up, I get flagged like crazy by this guy with the many accounts, I can deal with the dust flags, but the cleversteem bot with my name on is doing a lot more damage. I get flags from real people, and most days wake up to an irritated message on here or discord from someone who thinks it is me and it is just so disheartening.
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Hello my fun friend @berniesanders. I haven't made a comment on your post for almost a year but I want to let you know a couple more flag machines that have been my way:
This is @superlove and @jilophu
Superlove's blog says he is the bot of @johngreenfield but it seems the bot is an imposter.
There is some relation to @kkb031 and @koshin.
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I can assure you @mineopoly, they are not owned by me but by the same user as the rest of the accounts on this thread. I have my account, and my account only.
I have a fairly comprehensive list of 85 accounts if that's of any use @berniesanders
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Thanks. That helps. You didn't seem like the type of person to do that.
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I so got flagged for unknown reason because all my posting have source.. May be the bot created for conspiracy and other user angry to you and down vote your post.. I don't know
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Haha ok this is interesting.. are you like insecure about having competition and losing your position as steemit's number 1 flagger
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You realize I don't just flag random people, right?
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@berniesanders I try to Find it's solution thatt why it's done like that, so
When you first begin on Steemit, you'll see this score move rather rapidly because of votes you get on posts and remarks. Sooner or later, you'll see it taking more time to get to the following level.Since Steemit rounds this score to entire numbers, it might be useful seeing this score down to the first........!
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baissetonfroc
stormstblogger
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@treedain
@velomasty
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@marcfrelon2
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@berniesanders The worst thing to do in Steemit is this flag, if you can flag at my post after knowing, my reputation will be reduced, if you can solve this problem then steem users have told you so much thank you
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Found some:
@topmaxsteem
and
@altrei
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@petitzob
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Add @fushcarbon to the list. I got hit by some of the others you already have too, funny thing is dumb bastards flagged a post that was two weeks old.
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Wow, many of your sentences are really long. I would recommend writing slightly shorter sentences, as it improves readability.
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Hi! I received flags on my original posts from @johnrevelator and @huehen . I'm so mad cos of it!! What the hell is going on Steemit???
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Will mute on their account help? I am not worth flagging, but if everyone mute selected their account, would that help?
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No, they do not post.
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Okay, I thought you had to post, to be on Steemit. That way you can't flag them either, that is unfair!
>:(
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yep 3 or 4 times in the past few days..i would flag them back but they dont have any posts/comment :(
15SP....LOL
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Hello and thank you so much for removing all this trash. Even if they are only bots,a no-reasons flag always hurts me.
Here is my list:
@charlesdeherstal
@jilophu
@dernu
See you!
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I was downvoted twice from the following accounts
@numerusclosus
@superlove
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@gladiatorwork flagged me a couple of days ago. At the time this was a new account with no posts.
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Many people use this to identify people who have made arguments of a certain kind for later reference. The person was probably telling you that many people have "flagged" you in this way, suggesting that they will ignore your future comments, since they will immediately link your post to whatever it is that you said.
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Another mosquito.
@jilophu
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I feel so proud now! I got a flag by this one on your list a couple of days ago.
@treedain
I looked at the account and could not imagine the point of such action. But I guess there is a whole gang of them. Would the flag hurt baby minnows? This would be so sad.
Ah steemit! You are a place of continual mystery to me.
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@sesamcrs
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Yeah I got downvoted by @bestwebmaster and was trying to figure what it was about, but with that kind of SP I wasn't bothered by that.
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I have been flagged by @donaldducky, @numerusclosus, @charlesbiters, @charlesdeherstal Please could something be done about these spammers. Thanks
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You've already blacklisted @fongopot and @superlove. I don't even know what the fuck this all is about. Thanks for being the fun guy
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@soma909 that owns @botmaxu745 and @ytcomcenter2 flagged one of my posts as spam. Is this what Steemit.com really stands for?
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I suggest you edit this comment.
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I did @soma909 , @themarkymark came and rescued you. Go check out the conversation we had. You are all cleared my friend.
https://steemit.com/abuse/@white-lie-living/soma909-that-owns-botmaxu745-and-ytcomcenter2-flagged-one-of-my-posts-as-spam-is-this-what-steemit-com-really-stands-for
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While I appreciate what you are doing, I think normalizing some flagging on the site is also a good idea.
Minnows need to learn sometimes you get unexpected upvotes, sometimes you get unexpected flags! :)
Thanks for helping sooth the bad feelings though!
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That's very true. Maybe I'll only oppose the flags on accounts with a maximum rep so it doesn't deter the new users who may not have been around long enough to understand how things work.
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Another this morning.
@retiredworld
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This one in my latest post.
@superlove
Great work!
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Here's one @friendtopriest
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I have a big list and would like to add what you have but @friendtopriest is not an account on steemit.
Thank you
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Sorry I left out a "p" it's @friendtoppriest
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@altrei
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I got hit by @fongopot and @dertluc.
I was triggered for a minute there till I realized they had no SP.
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@botmaxu745
@jilophu
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I was flagged by one the other day that looked like it was affiliated with Steemcleaners, but in fact it was just a fake account. I was all upset at first because I have never been flagged before, but I soon realized the 100% down vote by the account was basically insignificant because their SP was so low. It is still too bad that this kind of stuff is happening though. It is like dealing with children sometimes :)
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So there some people on here who their job is to report you and spoil your reputation for nothing?. Enlighten me
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This one just downvoted my post @charlesdeherstal
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Recently got flags from
@crackboom
@fushcarbon
Not sure about the rest. Those 2 I noticed.
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Thanks for that solution. Something has to be done against this BS. I also got downvoted by 5 accounts (so far). They have already been mentioned either in your hit list or in the comments sections : dernu, topfongo1, gladiatorwork, friendtoppriest and fertipo
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I got one Mr. @berniesanders, please defend me.
---->niquetarace
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Thank you very much for your help!
These are the accounts that down-voted me during the last three days.
@astalavasti
@retiredworld
@magasintop1
These accounts follow each other and their followers have been resteeming posts for some curation rewards.
Why would someone go all the length to create these accounts to down vote people?
All the best!
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@geradunlo (another numb nutz)
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Apparantly I got downvoted by this two
https://steemit.com/@zartyo
https://steemit.com/@usertelor
And their page saids, reporting abusers. I don't even see how I am an abuser. They are more like an abuser, for just flagging random people.
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I was just downvoted by @baissetonfroc
Thanks for making a list!
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Today; @stormstblogger
They seem to have grown an out crop!
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I often get a flag from a new account. and I've contacted them on discord. however, they say no harm. I think this is very potentially bad. I appreciate the answer @nextgencrypto. maybe our neighbors told the nextgencrypto loss the attitude.
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I was flagged by @niquetarace, @charlesbiters, @cleversteem some days ago. There are many such bots which are doing this. Is there any permanent solution of them? This is happening again and again.
Those accounts cannot be downvoted which have never made any post or comment. Why steemit letting bots to downvote others? I think bots should not be allowed to downvote till they, make any post or comment.
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I caught a random flag on one of my posts this morning from this @poritoza cunt... Not sure if it's related but he's flagging a whole bunch of stuff.
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Thanks for helping out they've been everywhere
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Not sure if this person is on your guys list. But got flagged from them today. This seems like it may be another one of their accounts. @sucemabite
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Hello! For some unknown reason, I received three flags for my last post:
https://steemit.com/busy/@mp42b/monoblok-iz-sgorevshei-matricy-plastikovogo-podnosa-i-modulei-iz-podnebesnoi-kratkii-pereskaz-okonchanie
from accounts
@friendtoppriest
@sucemabite
@hilonrima
The post is old, they did not affect payments, but it's still unpleasant.
The main thing is it is not clear why these people do this.
And I'm not sure that they even read this post.
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I've been flagged buy 3 accounts one of them said I was abusing the system after i got an upvote from dlive. None of the accounts had any stream power to affect my post. But like like just because i got an upvote from dlive I get downvotes?
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@usertelor this it the account but no steempower so it doesn't do anything i'm just like wtf.
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Hi @Berniesanders
yeah i had two downvoters "not sure if it's the same thing' on a meme content i photoshopped myself with my tag
they were @topmaxsteem & @bestwebmaster
never had issues before.. spotted it via busy.org
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I'd like to report:
@superfipo
@botabuserreports
@steemtwitting
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@johnblackfield
He flagged me today!
Thank you @berniesanders
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@patrice is a someone working against spam and scams
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Ah sorry it was @hilonrima. I think @patrice had down voted them and I pasted the wrong account
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https://steemit.com/art/@robali123/the-result-of-unplanned-creativity
This was the lost that got down voted. It's definitely not spam
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