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the issue is conflation. Some believe:

Freedom of speech = Freedom of consequence

Hence when they find the world does not work like this. They are upset, and feel undignified.

So the mistake, is not in the action, but expectation.

If you can't discuss your disagreement with facts and a level head. Best go play pokemon go. Specially if you are holding very little Steem and have absolutely no intention of purchasing any.

Freedom of speech = Freedom of consequence

100% this. Too many people think that free platform means no one can disagree with them. Not to mention, I think it's incredibly ridiculous they cry censorship when everything is still readable.

The only thing that's taken away by flags is rewards, and sometimes reputation.

There are some psychological effects attached to getting flag. But they are self imposed.

People attach their sense of worth to a payout on a comment or post. Hence, if that gets attacked (im being dramatic intentionally) that means in their mind their own value, their own sense of worth has been eroded.

But, is this true? Of course not, If I'm so weak emotionally as to attach my sense of self worth to some magic internet money (again being ridiculous intentionally) then the issue I have is a lot deeper and I probably need some counseling. Now, this is not me saying they are stupid or that they are not valuable human beings. This is me saying they are accepting the consequence of their actions as something that degrades their self worth. That part is their choice.

@whatsup is probably right about the idea of normalizing flags. If people understood internally, that is, that you don't die, that nothing changes, that your wife doesn't leave you, that your kids don't think less of you, because one comment or two have a (SHOW HIDDEN) button on them.

Then this whole debacle, this whole catastrophe will be as relevant as spilling your drink. It sucks, but you are going to be OK.

What about the people that make a good comment that doesn't intentionally offend a particular person, but is still flagged and hidden. Some comments are like that. Hasn't happened to me though so im just trying to think from the other side.
That feeling some people might get when they put in a good comment only to be kicked down.

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I guess the financial incentive really gets under people's skin more than, say, Facebook or Reddit.

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Ned is a cuck, just saying...

But he has great hair.

Create work that doesn't depend on your reputation, then call out bs and be a contrarian.

It's one off the most important roles in society. Without it we'd have imbalance.

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I'm 100% entitled to an upvote from you.

really happy for you Mikey

It's all because of the Steemit community, they help their own.

I dumped like 10 or 20 sbd in bot votes for him the other day when I was bot whoring up my post trying to get to rep 60 for the bytemyballs thing. It worked out though. Money well spent.

Would you fucking look at you!!!! You are a full on 1 rep on steemit. Mother fuckers can see you again now after haejin ass fucked your account. I guess my bot votes finally came through for ya. I told ya they would take 5 to 7 business days. lol

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I'm not there yet but i am working on it. Lol.

"The best activities for your health are pumping and humping." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

I was going to post a pic of my badass arm but it would get drowned out in the awesomeness of this post.

You little tease.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Stop b*tching and get your own SP right?....Haha

@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!

Same here.

I always call that play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Did you get your byteball airdrop? It is a free $30 in tokens.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@punqtured/official-byteball-airdrop-to-steemians

Free speech = no one is talking shit. You can't have it both ways.

Freedom is a hell of drug!

A lot of people see this as a system set up for bullies, but a lot of people also don't realize that in order for someone to flag you, they kind of have to sacrifice a bit of themselves as well. It is one less vote they can spend on themselves or someone else that they would rather support. So, the system lends itself to eventual settlement one way or the other.

Now, I have the unpopular opinion that the reputation system is in fact flawed in its current implementation, but that is also mostly a perception issue. As bernie has proven himself, you can still trend with negative rep.

The rep system has always been flawed.

The problem is that people are too goddamn sensitive these days and have little to no common sense. It's only getting worse.

Yeah the thicker the skin the better.

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  ·  6 years ago Reveal Comment

What the fuck?

If you think about it carefully, the flag can also be used as a means of censorship
Or am I wrong?

Nothing is erased from the blockchain. So, that's a moot argument from those who don't know how it works.

It takes away your rewards, but it doesn't mean you can't post.

That's true, but it makes your messages invisible, so others can not easily find the message.

Depends on the interface you use.

Also, almost all of them have a "show hidden" option. This is a user issue.

It's not invisible if you have your own website and pull your blog directly off the blockchain. or say you create your own steemit.com version that shows all posts.

Agree sir but bitching is a favourite hobby of peoples so we cant stop them.

People with this hobby makes thousands I saw those posts and you are not even making $1 with your posts on avg. Just a word.

lol em happy where i'm 😎. making money through bitching is not a type of xawi.

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sure, good choice but that's there way. Maybe not socialized so not liked much by most people :)

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why he flag you??? :/ :O

You run a service called @abuseservice which is supposed to be an anti abuse service,yet you use @abuseservice to downvote legit content. https://steemit.com/abuse/@netscape101/what-happens-when-you-write-some-true-journalism-on

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Everyone can express whatever the f*** they want until someone gets anoyed and start bitching way too hard 'til erase these people from radar

Why do they never ask why when they get upvoted.

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Funguy for president!

Your hate won't change anything.

But maybe your love will.

-tsnaks

Are you pointing to someone if so then it's better to explain than making unpredictable posts so someone can use it's rights to say in defence.

Ah sure it's useful but sometimes i found that people talking shit are getting upvotes lol....

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@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!

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It's hilarious you think I was doxxed first of all. Second of all, you're just another one of those whiny bitches I mention above.

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One day bernie will be so angry and be like;

Love you man.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Everyone has the option to flag but I find it kinda funny when people with 15SP and 10% voting power are downvoting something. :)

Anyway, gotta keep grinding that SP!

They too are curating with what they have, even if their impact is small, and because of revenge flagging, they are also quite brave, or stupid, depending on how you look at it. Anyway, a shitpost deseves a flag, no matter how powerful the flag.

Besides, sometimes small flags can serve as a hint to others.

but in my case it's useful because they still can show to community a ( - ) in voting list.

We were treated to 5 hours of whining today in SteemSpeak

Personally I don't like this flagging stuff because it could just turn into a vendetta, you know like I don't like you so I keep flagging you. I do see the benefit of flagging someone who is becoming a pain in the ass. Also I think if I can receive upvotes from someone because he liked what I posted,I should be well prepared to receive a flag if I post something that is actually stupid. Unfortunately sometimes we make mistakes in what we post and end up with a flag, I guess all we can do is just take it as it comes and move on.

Get ‘me Bernie.
Love your work.

I strongly support your opinion @berniesanders.

freedom of expression should take precedence. and also you and them here just for that freedom.
this is my opinion.

@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!

@berniesanders i think you dont like @ned and he dont like you. but no problem its your opinion you can downvote his posts or he can downvotes your posts.this issue is between two of you.but i dont know why you flag comments of some people(especially minnows) if they make comments on @ned posts.they have a small hope to get a upvote from him( @ned ) for their comment and they dont know about you and mention about you also, but u downvotes their comments wihthout a reason. U will show your anger on them instead of @ned . U dont wont to see them grow up? Try to help others or just self upvote your posts Hope u can understand
Thank you
Yours @summisimeon

This is a thing quite many haven't understood - ever.
People have been claiming others to be enemies of freedom as they flag others. I do not see how removing the freedom of flagging actually would increase amount of freedom.

In a free world, the network runs the economy. Each and every one of you. Big and small. Your vote means something.

You might have flagged him or his other accounts! Maybe yes, no!?

Yeah, Totally Agree With You.
:(

I am no longer talking about you. Can you please leave me alone?

I've got my eye on you. Stop being a fucking schmuck and move on.

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  ·  6 years ago Reveal Comment

What about this guy then? @steempioneer He just goes around Steemit, randomly flagging everyone he meets.

wow

Who are you?

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A Meat Popsicle

People need to get some balls, to many Beta Males around these days 😂 🤣

  ·  6 years ago (edited)Reveal Comment

Awe, your butt seems sore today. Take a little break.

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You triggered this guy so hard. That he's been in steem speak for 5 hours complaining about you flagging him.

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